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156 key & alarm problem
Hi, I have been stupid enough to break both key-buttons on my Alfa 156
(2002). The button on both units has pushed right in and cannot be activated. Can I open those and repair the faulty button? I can’t see how they come apart, obviously they must. Also, how can i turn the alarm off, as i have activated it with the remote and now can’t drive it without it squealing. Many thanks -- Posted using the http://www.autoforumz.com interface, at author's request Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards Topic URL: http://www.autoforumz.com/Alfa-Romeo...ict123384.html Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=600354 |
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I have had this happen three times. In all three cases, the key has
been replaced under warranty. Coincidentally, I will be collecting my third replacement key today. I am in the third year of the warranty, so this is not something that is only covered in the two year manufacturer's warranty. The last replacement key I had was a different design to the originals. I hope and believe that this redesign is to address the appallingly poor design of the original. The reason for the switch failures is that the switch is held to the PCB only by the two solder joints: every time you press the button you are stressing those joints, and as the switch isn't actually completely central under the button this problem is exacerbated. I had the last two faulty keys repaired - otherwise I would have been stranded at work. To do this, you need to cut the button off the keyfob in order to reveal the switch underneath. I did try to open the keyfob along its seam, but failed. I even removed the small Alfa badge and removed the screw that is underneath it, but could still not get the keyfob apart. I have not used the repaired keys more than I absolutely had to though - I'm not sure how much I trust them. But it's better than nothing. Good luck. Mike |
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"Mike Ives" wrote:
> I have had this happen three times. In all three cases, the > key has > been replaced under warranty. Coincidentally, I will be > collecting my > third replacement key today. I am in the third year of the > warranty, > so this is not something that is only covered in the two year > manufacturer's warranty. > > The last replacement key I had was a different design to the > originals. > I hope and believe that this redesign is to address the > appallingly > poor design of the original. The reason for the switch > failures is > that the switch is held to the PCB only by the two solder > joints: every > time you press the button you are stressing those joints, and > as the > switch isn't actually completely central under the button this > problem > is exacerbated. > > I had the last two faulty keys repaired - otherwise I would > have been > stranded at work. To do this, you need to cut the button off > the > keyfob in order to reveal the switch underneath. I did try to > open the > keyfob along its seam, but failed. I even removed the small > Alfa badge > and removed the screw that is underneath it, but could still > not get > the keyfob apart. > > I have not used the repaired keys more than I absolutely had > to though > - I'm not sure how much I trust them. But it's better than > nothing. > > Good luck. > > Mike Thanks Mike. You got it spot on as the solder joints had failed as you said. Luckily I managed to open my key and get it soldered. Strangely my other identical key would not open like the first so I will cut the button out as you suggest. Many thanks as i’m mobile again -- Posted using the http://www.autoforumz.com interface, at author's request Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards Topic URL: http://www.autoforumz.com/Alfa-Romeo...ict123384.html Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=601168 |
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"steve-mac" wrote:
> Thanks Mike. You got it spot on as the solder joints had > failed as you said. Luckily I managed to open my key and get > it soldered. Strangely my other identical key would not open > like the first so I will cut the button out as you suggest. > > Many thanks as i'm mobile again Forgot to add that a replacement key & remote was going to cost me £135 (UK Pounds) - same price as a playstation 2 and a decent mp3 player combined. (what’s that all about?). The Alfa dealership said the keys could not be repaired. |
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Pop over to this forum... http://forum.alfa156.net/ Then go to the tips section - there you'll find a document I wrote for repairing the black flip key buttons. Basically though you've done it already by resoldering the microswitch. Sometimes the switch falls apart (wear and tear) and has to be replaced. I agree that it's very poor design - the keys should be replaced free of charge as the design is poor. |
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"michaeld" wrote:
> Pop over to this forum... > > http://forum.alfa156.net/ > > Then go to the tips section - there you'll find a document I > wrote for > repairing the black flip key buttons. Basically though you've > done it > already by resoldering the microswitch. Sometimes the switch > falls > apart (wear and tear) and has to be replaced. I agree that > it's very > poor design - the keys should be replaced free of charge as > the design > is poor. Thanks Michaeld, great article and site. -- Posted using the http://www.autoforumz.com interface, at author's request Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards Topic URL: http://www.autoforumz.com/Alfa-Romeo...ict123384.html Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse: http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=601666 |
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