Replace all tires for a flat one?

My tire (rear/passenger side) got flat and the dealer told me it can't
be fixed for a safty reason. That's ok. However, he asked me to
replace all tires in order to tune ABS and so forth cause it is 4WD(I
know only a little about car). BTW, the car is a 2003 XLT. I bought
this car last year and it is only less than 15K miles so far. Is that
a reasonable solution? I appreciate your suggestions!

He is just trying to sell you tires! The ABS system is not going to be
affected by the mere 1/4 of tread gain on one tire. YOu have 4 ABS sensors
each one working independently of the other. I don't know what tires you
have now or the condition of such. But on my Explorer I have BF G's All
terrain TA's the ones in the front right now, have 13/32 of tread the back
have 15/32 tread yes they are only about 6 months old. So, is your dealer
going to tell me that my ABS is out of tune because of 2/32 o tread
difference. If he did I would get it in writing then take them to the better
business. If your tires are down to less than 3/32 of tread depth then you
should replace all of them. He may have said that it can't be fixed for
saftey reasons because as a general rule most tire facilities will not
repair a tire that is less than 3/32 of tread depth or the hole is within
3/4 of a sidewall.
I hope this helps, But please don't beleive the ABS crap, thats a sales
tactic meant to worry you into new tires. Much like telling a woman (my
wife) that her brakes are wearing down. I looked at the brake pads to find
over half of the of pad left, they were fine. But it was said in order to
"SELL THE SAFTEY" issue.

Searcher1

"Ocean" > wrote in message
om...
> My tire (rear/passenger side) got flat and the dealer told me it can't
> be fixed for a safty reason. That's ok. However, he asked me to
> replace all tires in order to tune ABS and so forth cause it is 4WD(I
> know only a little about car). BTW, the car is a 2003 XLT. I bought
> this car last year and it is only less than 15K miles so far. Is that
> a reasonable solution? I appreciate your suggestions!

"Ocean" > wrote in message
om...
> My tire (rear/passenger side) got flat and the dealer told me it can't
> be fixed for a safty reason. That's ok. However, he asked me to
> replace all tires in order to tune ABS and so forth cause it is 4WD(I
> know only a little about car). BTW, the car is a 2003 XLT. I bought
> this car last year and it is only less than 15K miles so far. Is that
> a reasonable solution? I appreciate your suggestions!

Your dealer is an "ASSHOLE" Find a good/honest tire store and talk with
them. Most of them will tell you what can/can't be safely repaired.
I only go back to the dealer for factory recalls or defects.

> "Ocean" > wrote in message
> om...
> > My tire (rear/passenger side) got flat and the dealer told me it can't
> > be fixed for a safty reason. That's ok. However, he asked me to
> > replace all tires in order to tune ABS and so forth cause it is 4WD(I
> > know only a little about car). BTW, the car is a 2003 XLT. I bought
> > this car last year and it is only less than 15K miles so far. Is that
> > a reasonable solution? I appreciate your suggestions!
>

What I would do is buy a new tire to match, take the spare which should
be new and put that on. This way you have two new tires on the same
axle. Then I use the other that had 15k on it for the spare.

Janet

Previously in rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer, Janet
> proclaimed :

>
>> "Ocean" > wrote in message
>> om...
>> > My tire (rear/passenger side) got flat and the dealer told me it can't
>> > be fixed for a safty reason. That's ok. However, he asked me to
>> > replace all tires in order to tune ABS and so forth cause it is 4WD(I
>> > know only a little about car). BTW, the car is a 2003 XLT. I bought
>> > this car last year and it is only less than 15K miles so far. Is that
>> > a reasonable solution? I appreciate your suggestions!
>>
>
>What I would do is buy a new tire to match, take the spare which should
>be new and put that on. This way you have two new tires on the same
>axle. Then I use the other that had 15k on it for the spare.
>
>Janet


unfortunately, the dealer is correct. In a 4wd system, *all* tires
must be replaced. The uneven tread depth that a new tire would
can really mess up your 4x4 drive train.

If you never put the vehicle in 4x4 then it isn't an issue.








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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 14:13:36 -0500, Capt Retardo and the Skidmarks
> wrote:

>Previously in rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer, Janet
> proclaimed :
>
>>
>>> "Ocean" > wrote in message
>>> om...
>>> > My tire (rear/passenger side) got flat and the dealer told me it can't
>>> > be fixed for a safty reason. That's ok. However, he asked me to
>>> > replace all tires in order to tune ABS and so forth cause it is 4WD(I
>>> > know only a little about car). BTW, the car is a 2003 XLT. I bought
>>> > this car last year and it is only less than 15K miles so far. Is that
>>> > a reasonable solution? I appreciate your suggestions!
>>>
>>
>>What I would do is buy a new tire to match, take the spare which should
>>be new and put that on. This way you have two new tires on the same
>>axle. Then I use the other that had 15k on it for the spare.
>>
>>Janet
>
>
>unfortunately, the dealer is correct. In a 4wd system, *all* tires
>must be replaced. The uneven tread depth that a new tire would
>can really mess up your 4x4 drive train.
>
>If you never put the vehicle in 4x4 then it isn't an issue.

Nope.
The differential will take up any such minor differences in tire
circunference.
And since 4x4 should only be used when the tires can slip anyway,
that's *really* not true.

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Previously in rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer, Big Bill
> proclaimed :

>On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 14:13:36 -0500, Capt Retardo and the Skidmarks
> wrote:
>
>>Previously in rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer, Janet
> proclaimed :
>>
>>>
>>>> "Ocean" > wrote in message
>>>> om...
>>>> > My tire (rear/passenger side) got flat and the dealer told me it can't
>>>> > be fixed for a safty reason. That's ok. However, he asked me to
>>>> > replace all tires in order to tune ABS and so forth cause it is 4WD(I
>>>> > know only a little about car). BTW, the car is a 2003 XLT. I bought
>>>> > this car last year and it is only less than 15K miles so far. Is that
>>>> > a reasonable solution? I appreciate your suggestions!
>>>>
>>>
>>>What I would do is buy a new tire to match, take the spare which should
>>>be new and put that on. This way you have two new tires on the same
>>>axle. Then I use the other that had 15k on it for the spare.
>>>
>>>Janet
>>
>>
>>unfortunately, the dealer is correct. In a 4wd system, *all* tires
>>must be replaced. The uneven tread depth that a new tire would
>>can really mess up your 4x4 drive train.
>>
>>If you never put the vehicle in 4x4 then it isn't an issue.
>
>Nope.
>The differential will take up any such minor differences in tire
>circunference.
>And since 4x4 should only be used when the tires can slip anyway,
>that's *really* not true.


this took all of 2 minutes to find. There's dozens of resources out
there that say the same thing:


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...chingtires.jsp


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"Janet" > wrote in message
...
>
>> "Ocean" > wrote in message
>> om...
>> > My tire (rear/passenger side) got flat and the dealer told me it can't
>> > be fixed for a safty reason. That's ok. However, he asked me to
>> > replace all tires in order to tune ABS and so forth cause it is 4WD(I
>> > know only a little about car). BTW, the car is a 2003 XLT. I bought
>> > this car last year and it is only less than 15K miles so far. Is that
>> > a reasonable solution? I appreciate your suggestions!
>>
>
> What I would do is buy a new tire to match, take the spare which should
> be new and put that on. This way you have two new tires on the same
> axle. Then I use the other that had 15k on it for the spare.
>
> Janet

You are being lied to and taken advantage of. There is another
solution to your problem.

The ONLY reason I could see what the "dealer" is saying is if the
other tires were worn and needed to be replaced anyway..but that is
because it would make since to buy 4 new tires instead of buying one
new and having 3 badly worn others.


Is this the ford dealership or a tire dealer? What town are you in?
If you have the spare still on shop around Monday..find a friend you
trust to help you make your decision.




Thanks,

Sam in Raleigh.


>
>"Janet" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>> "Ocean" > wrote in message
>>> om...
>>> > My tire (rear/passenger side) got flat and the dealer told me it can't
>>> > be fixed for a safty reason. That's ok. However, he asked me to
>>> > replace all tires in order to tune ABS and so forth cause it is 4WD(I
>>> > know only a little about car). BTW, the car is a 2003 XLT. I bought
>>> > this car last year and it is only less than 15K miles so far. Is that
>>> > a reasonable solution? I appreciate your suggestions!
>

Check the owner's manual for information about this. Some of the
newer vehicles require that the tires all be the same diameter in
order for the traction and stability control systems to work properly.
My understanding is that a different size tire can be interpreted as
wheel spin, causing 4WD to partially engage all the time.

On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:23:53 -0400, Sam > wrote:

>You are being lied to and taken advantage of. There is another
>solution to your problem.
>
> The ONLY reason I could see what the "dealer" is saying is if the
>other tires were worn and needed to be replaced anyway..but that is
>because it would make since to buy 4 new tires instead of buying one
>new and having 3 badly worn others.
>
>
>Is this the ford dealership or a tire dealer? What town are you in?
>If you have the spare still on shop around Monday..find a friend you
>trust to help you make your decision.
>
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sam in Raleigh.
>
>
>>
>>"Janet" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>> "Ocean" > wrote in message
>>>> om...
>>>> > My tire (rear/passenger side) got flat and the dealer told me it can't
>>>> > be fixed for a safty reason. That's ok. However, he asked me to
>>>> > replace all tires in order to tune ABS and so forth cause it is 4WD(I
>>>> > know only a little about car). BTW, the car is a 2003 XLT. I bought
>>>> > this car last year and it is only less than 15K miles so far. Is that
>>>> > a reasonable solution? I appreciate your suggestions!
>>