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Zathras wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:52:00 +0100, (SteveH) > wrote: > >>> Hallo, >>> Typical mistake! >>> New tyres should go on the rear. Not front! > > Well, according to all the tyre manufacturers anyway. > >> <passes round popcorn> > > :-) > >> I always put new tyres on the driven wheels. > > I always found it a more consistent handling and pleasing experience > not to do that on my 156. YMMV. > /me sides with Steve on this. But we don't have enough regs to have a proper jihad -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk |
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"Catman" > wrote in message ... > Zathras wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:52:00 +0100, (SteveH) >> wrote: >> >>>> Hallo, >>>> Typical mistake! >>>> New tyres should go on the rear. Not front! >> >> Well, according to all the tyre manufacturers anyway. >> >>> <passes round popcorn> >> >> :-) >> >>> I always put new tyres on the driven wheels. >> >> I always found it a more consistent handling and pleasing experience >> not to do that on my 156. YMMV. >> > > /me sides with Steve on this. But we don't have enough regs to have a > proper jihad FWD cars should have their "best" tyres on the rear, this is to prevent sudden and unpredicable lift-off oversteer[1], especially in the wet. [1] Definitions: Understeer - the front of the car hits the wall first. Oversteer - the rear of the car hits the wall first. Power - how hard you hit the wall. Torque - how far the wall moves when you hit it. -- Dave ex Motorcycle Maintenance Workshop http://tinyurl.com/4mhaw |
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Dave Emerson > wrote:
> > /me sides with Steve on this. But we don't have enough regs to have a > > proper jihad > > FWD cars should have their "best" tyres on the rear, this is to prevent > sudden and unpredicable lift-off oversteer[1], especially in the wet. > > > [1] Definitions: > Understeer - the front of the car hits the wall first. > Oversteer - the rear of the car hits the wall first. > Power - how hard you hit the wall. > Torque - how far the wall moves when you hit it. Only if you drive like a woman. For the rest of us manly drivers, lift-off oversteer is a desirable characteristic. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' Alfa 156 TSpark Sportwagon Veloce Selespeed - Alfa 75 TSpark Lusso - Ducati 750SS - BMW R100RT - Toyota Prius T-Spirit |
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Dave Emerson wrote:
> "Catman" > wrote in message > ... >> Zathras wrote: >>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:52:00 +0100, (SteveH) >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Hallo, >>>>> Typical mistake! >>>>> New tyres should go on the rear. Not front! >>> Well, according to all the tyre manufacturers anyway. >>> >>>> <passes round popcorn> >>> :-) >>> >>>> I always put new tyres on the driven wheels. >>> I always found it a more consistent handling and pleasing experience >>> not to do that on my 156. YMMV. >>> >> /me sides with Steve on this. But we don't have enough regs to have a >> proper jihad > > FWD cars should have their "best" tyres on the rear, this is to prevent > sudden and unpredicable lift-off oversteer[1], especially in the wet. > > That is generally the accepted wisdom > [1] Definitions: > Understeer - the front of the car hits the wall first. > Oversteer - the rear of the car hits the wall first. > Power - how hard you hit the wall. > Torque - how far the wall moves when you hit it. Nice -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk |
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"SteveH" > wrote in message
... > J.D. > wrote: > >> "R C Nesbit" > wrote in message >> ... >> > The 156 was in need of a pair of front tyres, but since my >> > financial partners pulled out in June I am flat broke most >> > of the time. >> > >> > So I called in to The Tyre Shop, purveyors of cheap rubber >> > to the denizens of Ollerton (ex mining village) and bought >> > a pair of economy branded fronts for the princely sum of >> > £89 - the pair, balanced and fitted! >> > >> > I was somewhat wary, but they drove, tracked and sounded >> > fine, and as luck would have it I've just driven 20 miles >> > through heavy rain and they are OK in the wet as well! >> > >> >> Hallo, >> Typical mistake! >> New tyres should go on the rear. Not front! > > <passes round popcorn> > > I always put new tyres on the driven wheels. I'll second that and add that that they do all the steering and most of the braking too (>60%?), so grip and tread is pretty handy. |
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"Dave Emerson" > wrote in message
... > > "Catman" > wrote in message > ... >> Zathras wrote: >>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:52:00 +0100, (SteveH) >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Hallo, >>>>> Typical mistake! >>>>> New tyres should go on the rear. Not front! >>> >>> Well, according to all the tyre manufacturers anyway. >>> >>>> <passes round popcorn> >>> >>> :-) >>> >>>> I always put new tyres on the driven wheels. >>> >>> I always found it a more consistent handling and pleasing experience >>> not to do that on my 156. YMMV. >>> >> >> /me sides with Steve on this. But we don't have enough regs to have a >> proper jihad > > FWD cars should have their "best" tyres on the rear, this is to prevent > sudden and unpredicable lift-off oversteer[1], especially in the wet. > > > [1] Definitions: > Understeer - the front of the car hits the wall first. > Oversteer - the rear of the car hits the wall first. > Power - how hard you hit the wall. > Torque - how far the wall moves when you hit it. When you hit the wall because you have old tyres on your braking, steering, driving wheels, give us a shout. If the rear wheels aren't damaged I'll give you a few pounds for the new tyres on there! Skid - when you don't have enough rubber on your steering / braking wheels. |
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"SteveH" > wrote in message
... > J.D. > wrote: > >> "R C Nesbit" > wrote in message >> ... >> > The 156 was in need of a pair of front tyres, but since my >> > financial partners pulled out in June I am flat broke most >> > of the time. >> > >> > So I called in to The Tyre Shop, purveyors of cheap rubber >> > to the denizens of Ollerton (ex mining village) and bought >> > a pair of economy branded fronts for the princely sum of >> > £89 - the pair, balanced and fitted! >> > >> > I was somewhat wary, but they drove, tracked and sounded >> > fine, and as luck would have it I've just driven 20 miles >> > through heavy rain and they are OK in the wet as well! >> > >> >> Hallo, >> Typical mistake! >> New tyres should go on the rear. Not front! > > <passes round popcorn> Got any beer with that? |
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"SteveH" > wrote in message ... > J.D. > wrote: > >> "R C Nesbit" > wrote in message >> ... >> > The 156 was in need of a pair of front tyres, but since my >> > financial partners pulled out in June I am flat broke most >> > of the time. >> > >> > So I called in to The Tyre Shop, purveyors of cheap rubber >> > to the denizens of Ollerton (ex mining village) and bought >> > a pair of economy branded fronts for the princely sum of >> > £89 - the pair, balanced and fitted! >> > >> > I was somewhat wary, but they drove, tracked and sounded >> > fine, and as luck would have it I've just driven 20 miles >> > through heavy rain and they are OK in the wet as well! >> > >> >> Hallo, >> Typical mistake! >> New tyres should go on the rear. Not front! > > <passes round popcorn> > > I always put new tyres on the driven wheels. Then you are always wrong. Look at this: http://www.michelin.co.uk/michelinuk...314172074.html http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52 http://www.etyres.co.uk/flashmovies/...ear-etyres.htm http://www.celtictyres.co.uk/front-rear.php |
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GT wrote:
> "Dave Emerson" > wrote in message > ... >> "Catman" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Zathras wrote: >>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:52:00 +0100, (SteveH) >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Hallo, >>>>>> Typical mistake! >>>>>> New tyres should go on the rear. Not front! >>>> Well, according to all the tyre manufacturers anyway. >>>> >>>>> <passes round popcorn> >>>> :-) >>>> >>>>> I always put new tyres on the driven wheels. >>>> I always found it a more consistent handling and pleasing experience >>>> not to do that on my 156. YMMV. >>>> >>> /me sides with Steve on this. But we don't have enough regs to have a >>> proper jihad >> FWD cars should have their "best" tyres on the rear, this is to prevent >> sudden and unpredicable lift-off oversteer[1], especially in the wet. >> >> >> [1] Definitions: >> Understeer - the front of the car hits the wall first. >> Oversteer - the rear of the car hits the wall first. >> Power - how hard you hit the wall. >> Torque - how far the wall moves when you hit it. > > When you hit the wall because you have old tyres on your braking, steering, > driving wheels, give us a shout. If the rear wheels aren't damaged I'll give > you a few pounds for the new tyres on there! > > Skid - when you don't have enough rubber on your steering / braking wheels. s/rubber/grip. Don't forget tread is only really useful when it starts getting wet. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk |
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