Ford chief seeks help from Toyota

If you do a search you will discover there is a specific digit, in the VIN
that designates the assemble plant.


mike


"Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
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> Post a link and I will believe you. Otherwise you are wrong.
>
> There is a reason why the US has three numbers. We have more assembly
> plants than anyone else.
>
> "Mike Hunter" > wrote in message
> ...
>> You are free to believe whatever you chose, but if you used a little
>> logic it should become apparent that there must be a reason the US has
>> three numbers, rather than one as do all other countries. Do a search as
>> I did when I became curios as to why there is more than one number for
>> vehicles assemble in the US. You will discover as I have that it the
>> difference is US content, which is more than the totality of the parts.
>> '1' indicates more than 70%, '4' less than 70% but more than 40% and '5'
>> less than 40%.
>>
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> That may be your opinion but a little logic will prove what you believe
>>>> is wrong.
>>>
>>> A little research will prove what you believe is stupid.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

No they haven't, the only thing they have posted is that the first number is
the county where the vehicle is assembled . Nothing about the specific
number assigned 1, 4 and 5.

mike


"Jack" > wrote in message
et...
> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> You will discover as I have that it the difference is US content, which
>> is more than the totality of the parts. '1' indicates more than 70%, '4'
>> less than 70% but more than 40% and '5' less than 40%.
>
> You keep saying this but you have yet to provide an authoritative cite to
> substantiate your claim, while your detractors have provided multiple
> cites as refutations.
>
>
> Jack

"Mike Hunter" > wrote in message
...
> No they haven't, the only thing they have posted is that the first number
> is the county where the vehicle is assembled . Nothing about the specific
> number assigned 1, 4 and 5.
>
> mike

Incorrect. I have demostrated that similar vehicles coming off the same
assembly line have different first digits despite the fact that the US
content is nearly the same. This flies in the face of your conjecture.

Furthermore, I have not seen one reference to the use of the first digit as
having to do anything with content in the legal code that requires the VIN.
Why do you think that is?

Why do think the numbers are 1, 4 and 5, instead of say, 1, 2 and 3? Because
1 was the original number assigned to the US, and as more vehicle makers
needed to use VINs, the additional number were assigned.

Again, nothing I have found supports your conjecture and much of what I
found suggests that your conjecture is incorrect.

Jeff

>
> "Jack" > wrote in message
> et...
>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>> You will discover as I have that it the difference is US content, which
>>> is more than the totality of the parts. '1' indicates more than 70%, '4'
>>> less than 70% but more than 40% and '5' less than 40%.
>>
>> You keep saying this but you have yet to provide an authoritative cite to
>> substantiate your claim, while your detractors have provided multiple
>> cites as refutations.
>>
>>
>> Jack
>
>

But you haven't posted ANYTHING to back up your bogus claims!!

"Mike Hunter" > wrote in message
...
> No they haven't, the only thing they have posted is that the first number
> is the county where the vehicle is assembled . Nothing about the specific
> number assigned 1, 4 and 5.
>
> mike
>
>
> "Jack" > wrote in message
> et...
>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>> You will discover as I have that it the difference is US content, which
>>> is more than the totality of the parts. '1' indicates more than 70%, '4'
>>> less than 70% but more than 40% and '5' less than 40%.
>>
>> You keep saying this but you have yet to provide an authoritative cite to
>> substantiate your claim, while your detractors have provided multiple
>> cites as refutations.
>>
>>
>> Jack
>
>

Yeah, it's the 11th digit. Your point is?

My point as others have pointed out, we have more vehicles produced at more
assembly plants. Your information that Fords and Lincoln trucks assembled at
the same plant but with different country digits completely proves that you
are incorrect.

We're still waiting for that link that specifically states the first digit
determines US content....

"Mike Hunter" > wrote in message
...
> If you do a search you will discover there is a specific digit, in the VIN
> that designates the assemble plant.
>
>

"Jack" > wrote in message
et...
>
> I think we can stop feeding Asia as quickly as you say they can stop our
> transportation.
>
> > Jack

You assume the powers that be in China give a rats ass about some peasant
starving to death.

Whitelightning

I could not care less what you choose to believe, do you own homework, WBMA


mike


"My Name Is Nobody" > wrote in message
news:401oh.1270$%Q4.1037@trnddc06...
> So post the links to the published information that might substantiate
> your position, Mike!
>
> No mater how many times you repeat your position without collaborate
> information from some OTHER source, none of us is going to believe this as
> yet unsubstantiated scheme.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Hunter" > wrote in message
> ...
>> You are free to believe whatever you chose, but if you used a little
>> logic it should become apparent that there must be a reason the US has
>> three numbers, rather than one as do all other countries. Do a search as
>> I did when I became curios as to why there is more than one number for
>> vehicles assemble in the US. You will discover as I have that it the
>> difference is US content, which is more than the totality of the parts.
>> '1' indicates more than 70%, '4' less than 70% but more than 40% and '5'
>> less than 40%.
>>
>>
>> mike

You are somewhat correct, the first number of the VIN designates country of
origin. The different numbers assigned, 1, 4 and 5 is determined by US
content.

mike


"David M" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 09:50:16 -0500, Mike Hunter rearranged some electrons
> to form:
>
>> No they haven't, the only thing they have posted is that the first number
>> is
>> the county where the vehicle is assembled . Nothing about the specific
>> number assigned 1, 4 and 5.
>>
>> mike
>>
>
> The 1st digit of the VIN does not designate anything about the parts
> content.
>
> You were wrong before, Mike, and you're still wrong.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a...4c5d18dde60d3b
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> "Jack" > wrote in message
>> et...
>>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>>> You will discover as I have that it the difference is US content, which
>>>> is more than the totality of the parts. '1' indicates more than 70%,
>>>> '4'
>>>> less than 70% but more than 40% and '5' less than 40%.
>>>
>>> You keep saying this but you have yet to provide an authoritative cite
>>> to
>>> substantiate your claim, while your detractors have provided multiple
>>> cites as refutations.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jack
>
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>

Looks like you may have finally stumbled on the explanation you seek. The
reason the Lincoln LT has a 4 and the F150 a 1, although they both built on
the same assemble line, is the US content of the LT falls slightly below 70%


mike


"Jeff" > wrote in message news:vkaoh.956$2D.305@trndny07...
>
> "Mike Hunter" > wrote in message
> ...
>> No they haven't, the only thing they have posted is that the first number
>> is the county where the vehicle is assembled . Nothing about the
>> specific number assigned 1, 4 and 5.
>>
>> mike
>
> Incorrect. I have demostrated that similar vehicles coming off the same
> assembly line have different first digits despite the fact that the US
> content is nearly the same. This flies in the face of your conjecture.

On the contrary nothing posted has shown the assignment of the first digit
of VIN 1, 4 and 5 to be for anything but US content. If you believe that is
wrong, show us


mike


"Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
. ..
> But you haven't posted ANYTHING to back up your bogus claims!!
>
> "Mike Hunter" > wrote in message
> ...
>> No they haven't, the only thing they have posted is that the first number
>> is the county where the vehicle is assembled . Nothing about the
>> specific number assigned 1, 4 and 5.
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>> "Jack" > wrote in message
>> et...
>>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>>> You will discover as I have that it the difference is US content, which
>>>> is more than the totality of the parts. '1' indicates more than 70%,
>>>> '4' less than 70% but more than 40% and '5' less than 40%.