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"Mazda applies 'zoom-zoom' philosophy to CX-7"
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"Chris D'Agnolo" > wrote: > Well, we can't all drive RED MIATAS! True; there have never been enough red ones to go around, so the unlucky must settle for one of the lesser colors. :-) -- Lanny Chambers '94C, St. Louis http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html |
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"Mazda applies 'zoom-zoom' philosophy to CX-7"
Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> I've been really impressed lately with both Mazda in general and with > what I've read about the CX-7. If you look at the other comparable > vehicles (Acura MDX and some of the other good looking SUV's with > some sporting pretenses) I think it blows them out when you consider > price. Performance looks quite good, handling quite good, the design > of the interior is as good or better that anything and the ergonomics > seem just right. Am I crazy or is it almost $10k below what it > competes with? No, you're not crazy, but the CX-7 doesn't really compete with the MDX--it will compete with the RDX when it comes out. The RDX will be a much more similar vehicle. To prove your point, go to edmunds.com and build a Nissan Murano side-by-side with a CX-7. The specs are almost identical but the Mazda is about $8k cheaper. <snip> -- tooloud Remove nothing to reply |
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"Mazda applies 'zoom-zoom' philosophy to CX-7"
pws wrote:
> Chris D'Agnolo wrote: >> I bought their minivan (MPV) for my wife the first year it came out. >> Owned it for 10 years and absolutely loved it. I was extremely >> impressed with not only it's fit and finish but with the quality of >> materials used. Seat fabrics and plastics throughout were top notch >> and all of the switches and controls worked in a quality fashion. >> All that from a first year model of a new type of vehicle for them. >> >> During those years I owned it, almost all of the Mazda owners I ran >> into had similar experiences. I could never figure out how Mazda's >> reputation lagged behind several of the other big Japanese >> manufacturers. I know they're not perfect hell, my own miata still >> worries me on >> the #4 bearing cap failure issue of which I don't think Mazda ever >> took the high road on. >> >> Chris >> 99BBB > > I really think that the rotary engine had a lot to do with it, even > though it was not used on many of their vehicles. Even I would look > at a 3rd generation RX-7, think what a beautiful car, and then > immediately wonder what the bill would be when it came time to > replace the apex seals. > From what I have heard, the 626 is a bit of a POS, Sure, but they haven't sold that for years, have they? The 6 is a pretty capable car as a replacement. > but I don't have > any direct experience with it. It seems like every non-U.S. car > driver I knew that wasn't driving a miata or a SUV was in a Honda, Toyota, > or > Nissan. > The ones driving the Nissans had the highest problem rate by far of > the three mentioned. I think that's changed, too. I've got two Nissans with nary a problem between them, and one's over 150k miles. > Mazda's reputation probably had a lot to do with advertising. > Honda and Toyota didn't really need it, word of mouth and Consumer > Reports was enough. > Nissan has had great advertising in the last 8 years or so, imho. I > think that Mazda's advertising sucked then and still sucks today, but > then, I hate "zoom-zoom", the song, the idea, the vinyl stickers, and > anything else connected with it. > It might actually be good advertising for Mazda, I just don't like it, > but I do like their products. ;-) Kind of a "pick your battles" type of situation, huh? -- tooloud Remove nothing to reply |
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"Mazda applies 'zoom-zoom' philosophy to CX-7"
Gottcha, good point.
Chris 99BBB "tooloud" > wrote in message news:zWgrg.67196$1i1.27459@attbi_s72... > Chris D'Agnolo wrote: >> I've been really impressed lately with both Mazda in general and with >> what I've read about the CX-7. If you look at the other comparable >> vehicles (Acura MDX and some of the other good looking SUV's with >> some sporting pretenses) I think it blows them out when you consider >> price. Performance looks quite good, handling quite good, the design >> of the interior is as good or better that anything and the ergonomics >> seem just right. Am I crazy or is it almost $10k below what it >> competes with? > > No, you're not crazy, but the CX-7 doesn't really compete with the MDX--it > will compete with the RDX when it comes out. The RDX will be a much more > similar vehicle. > > To prove your point, go to edmunds.com and build a Nissan Murano > side-by-side with a CX-7. The specs are almost identical but the Mazda is > about $8k cheaper. > > <snip> > > -- > tooloud > Remove nothing to reply > |
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"Mazda applies 'zoom-zoom' philosophy to CX-7"
Good shot Lanny! I love it. The Miatas that we see as Black, or White,
are really just "off shades" of Red. :-) Bruce Bing '03 LS |
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"Mazda applies 'zoom-zoom' philosophy to CX-7"
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 21:57:07 -0700, BRUCE HASKIN wrote:
> Good shot Lanny! I love it. The Miatas that we see as Black, or White, are > really just "off shades" of Red. :-) > > Bruce Bing '03 LS Sure, Bruce, just like the refractive colors on a mallard duck. Frank 2002 LS, brilliant black with tan leather... |
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"Mazda applies 'zoom-zoom' philosophy to CX-7"
tooloud wrote:
> Sure, but they haven't sold that for years, have they? The 6 is a pretty > capable car as a replacement. I don't know the last year that they made the 626, but the Mazda reputation was being affected while they were in production. At the same time, they were producing the RX-7, with the famous apex seals issue. Now I think that both the products and the reputation are improving, with the exception of the miata, of course, which was perfected in 1989. ;-) > I think that's changed, too. I've got two Nissans with nary a problem > between them, and one's over 150k miles. I agree, I think that Mazda, Honda, Toyota and Nissan are all in basically the same league at this point. 10 years ago, I would have left both Mazda and Nissan out of the running except for the miata because of my own personal experience with it. > Kind of a "pick your battles" type of situation, huh? Yes, I had to remind myself that design and marketing are two different departments after seeing that "zoom-zoom" Tribute commercial with a Miata in it. Pat |
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"Mazda applies 'zoom-zoom' philosophy to CX-7"
pws wrote:
> tooloud wrote: > >> Sure, but they haven't sold that for years, have they? The 6 is a >> pretty capable car as a replacement. > > I don't know the last year that they made the 626, but the Mazda > reputation was being affected while they were in production. At the > same time, they were producing the RX-7, with the famous apex seals > issue. Now I think that both the products and the reputation are > improving, with the exception of the miata, of course, which was perfected > in > 1989. ;-) >> I think that's changed, too. I've got two Nissans with nary a problem >> between them, and one's over 150k miles. > > I agree, I think that Mazda, Honda, Toyota and Nissan are all in > basically the same league at this point. 10 years ago, I would have > left both Mazda and Nissan out of the running except for the miata > because of my own personal experience with it. > >> Kind of a "pick your battles" type of situation, huh? > > Yes, I had to remind myself that design and marketing are two > different departments after seeing that "zoom-zoom" Tribute > commercial with a Miata in it. I remember the one and thought the same thing. -- tooloud Remove nothing to reply |
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"Mazda applies 'zoom-zoom' philosophy to CX-7"
Frank ! You got it ! :-)
Bruce Bing '03 LS |
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"Mazda applies 'zoom-zoom' philosophy to CX-7"
"Mike" wrote > The all-new 2007 CX-7 crossover SUV is the first of three new vehicles > conceived specifically for the United States and Canada. Odd they don't mention that anywhere on www.mazda.com.au |
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