Speed Camera...

Got flashed in my Alfa three and a half weeks ago - should I still fear the
postman?

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"Dom" wrote:

> Got flashed in my Alfa three and a half weeks ago - should I still fear
the
> postman?

Well you shouldn't fear getting a fine & points - it should turn up within
two weeks. Can't advise about your postman, he could be a psycho...

In article > ,
"Tony Rickard" > wrote:

> "Dom" wrote:
>
> > Got flashed in my Alfa three and a half weeks ago - should I still fear
> the
> > postman?
>
> Well you shouldn't fear getting a fine & points - it should turn up within
> two weeks. Can't advise about your postman, he could be a psycho...

Time for your Brits to rise up against Gatsos. You know, claim your
roads back. Passive resistance, cilvil disobedience, or outright civil
war. Your choice. We Americans wouldn't put up with this crap. Already a
number of US municipalities have been forced to give-up their beloved
stop-light cameras because of public disapproval. I'm sure we'd do the
same WRT speed cameras as well.

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"Dom" > wrote in message
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> Got flashed in my Alfa three and a half weeks ago - should I still fear
> the
> postman?
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Andrew Makinson
>
> www.evcomputing.com
> www.iowcomputers.net/websiteforum/index.php
>
>
>

Hi,

Hate cams too. Plenty of them in the Netherlands.....:-(
Thought you all might like this link.....just to get even...

http://www.galaxygraphics.co.uk/ck2.php



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147 JTD Ed. Limitata, tuned (150BHP, 365Nm), Eibach lowered, Ragazon exhaust

I've been reading that if they decide to only send out a FPN (Fixed Penalty
Notice 3 points and £60) they have upto 6 months)

Do they still have to send out an NIP for a FPN or are FPN expemt from the
14 day rule?

I was doing about 50ish in a 40 which sits in the FPN region...
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"Dom" > wrote in message
news
> Got flashed in my Alfa three and a half weeks ago - should I still fear
the
> postman?
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Andrew Makinson
>
> www.evcomputing.com
> www.iowcomputers.net/websiteforum/index.php
>
>
>

George Graves wrote:

> In article > ,
> "Tony Rickard" > wrote:
>
>> "Dom" wrote:
>>
>> > Got flashed in my Alfa three and a half weeks ago - should I still fear
>> the
>> > postman?
>>
>> Well you shouldn't fear getting a fine & points - it should turn up
>> within two weeks. Can't advise about your postman, he could be a
>> psycho...
>
> Time for your Brits to rise up against Gatsos. You know, claim your
> roads back. Passive resistance, cilvil disobedience, or outright civil
> war. Your choice. We Americans wouldn't put up with this crap. Already a
> number of US municipalities have been forced to give-up their beloved
> stop-light cameras because of public disapproval. I'm sure we'd do the
> same WRT speed cameras as well.
>
I really can't see the problem with them. They enforce the law, no mroe, no
less.
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On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:41:58 +0000, Catman
> wrote:

>George Graves wrote:
<snip>
>> same WRT speed cameras as well.
>>
>I really can't see the problem with them. They enforce the law, no mroe, no
>less.

Except that they are deployed on grounds of safety and called 'Safety
Cameras'. In Scotland, for example, there are some statistics that
show rising numbers of accidents even with 'Safety Camera' deployment
- excellent!

Until I see a 'Safety Camera' outside a School, I remain convinced
that they're simply revenue raising devices. A recent survey suggests
that they're particularly good at getting Alfa drivers! :-((

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Zathras wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:41:58 +0000, Catman
> > wrote:
>
>>George Graves wrote:
> <snip>
>>> same WRT speed cameras as well.
>>>
>>I really can't see the problem with them. They enforce the law, no mroe,
>>no less.
>
> Except that they are deployed on grounds of safety and called 'Safety
> Cameras'. In Scotland, for example, there are some statistics that
> show rising numbers of accidents even with 'Safety Camera' deployment
> - excellent!
>
> Until I see a 'Safety Camera' outside a School, I remain convinced
> that they're simply revenue raising devices. A recent survey suggests
> that they're particularly good at getting Alfa drivers! :-((

Whatever they're called, they function the same. I admit the name is
stupid, though.

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"Catman" wrote:

> I really can't see the problem with them. They enforce the law, no mroe,
no
> less.

Well there are many arguments about speed limits and enforcing "good"
driving through controlling speed as that is all the technology can do.

I can't argue with your statement but it does rather assume that speed
limits are as scientific as the methods to enforce them. If you drove at 30
mph around blind corners in a housing estate you should be locked up, just
as driving at 60mph on some country lanes.

There was an experiment locally to introduce speed limits which matched the
road hazards. The local paper produced this picture which showed something
like 7 speed limit changes in one shot. The council were ridiculed and they
put in a single (the lower) limit. One comment from a dricving instructor
was that it was crazy to expect people to repeatedly speed up and slow to
the speed limit. I thought this was rather worrying as it assumes drivers
need to be told how fast they go.

Speed limits just aren't that scientific. When you have inside knowledge
into councils who determine these limits you would understand they meet
individual people's personal views and where they and their close friends
live.

My last motorway trip involved some very heavy traffic moving at 60-70mph
and then slowing to zero and back up again. I was repeatedly undertaken as
the lanes kept varying speed and then the person would dive into the
reasonable gap I left in front of me in the belief my lane was picking up
again. In some cases they took away my reasonable stopping distance and then
had to brake hard. To counter this I reduced the gap to stop them doing it,
which meant I was travelling too close to the car in front. It is this kind
of bunching and constant lane switching in the quest to find the fastest
lane that causes the inevitable accidents which sure enough I passed.

When the motorway cleared and I got to drive at a steady 80-85 it was in my
view a much safer experience.

So my beef is with enforcing inconsistent and unscientific speed limits with
high tech methods.

Cheers
Tony

Tony Rickard wrote:

>
> "Catman" wrote:
>
>> I really can't see the problem with them. They enforce the law, no mroe,
> no
>> less.
>
> Well there are many arguments about speed limits and enforcing "good"
> driving through controlling speed as that is all the technology can do.

Not sure they enforce good driving at all.

> I can't argue with your statement but it does rather assume that speed
> limits are as scientific as the methods to enforce them. If you drove at
> 30 mph around blind corners in a housing estate you should be locked up,
> just as driving at 60mph on some country lanes.

It does no such thing. In many *many* cases the limit is dumb. The *law*,
however, is not flexible.

<snip>
>
> So my beef is with enforcing inconsistent and unscientific speed limits
> with high tech methods.

What difference does it make how it's enforced? Limits are inherently
pretty dumb.

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