lug nuts over tight?

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 21:26:42 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11"
> wrote:

>:|Roughly 12/31/03 12:32, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:
>:|
>:|> is there a way to check what my wheel nuts are tightened at currently?
>:|
>:| Torque wrench. Local Sears has several. Depending on your
>:| [unidentified] vehicle you'll want one with a range of up
>:| to about 120 lbs at most. Get a long handle one and a socket
>:| to fit your nuts. A click type is much easier to use than the
>:| old needle style.


the 59.99 1/2" drive craftsman would be fine for tightening lug nuts.
they go up to 200lbs-ft. the old lever type wrenches are actually far
more accurate than a click type wrench and never require adjustment,
as the modulus of the steel never changes. clickers need periodic
adjustment to stay on spec.

-Bret

Roughly 12/31/03 14:22, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:

> i used to own one when i had a motorcycle ... stupidly gave it away to a
> friend ... it was a needle one ... i'll go take a look at the click ones you
> mentioned ...

You can get a good enough one for about thirty bucks, plus a
socket to match your nuts.

Then loosen the lugnuts and retighten to the proper torque.
Don't add any lube whatsoever unless your owner's manual or
a FACTORY service manual suggests it and in that case use
exactly the lube spec'd. When in doubt, don't add any lube.

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Roughly 12/31/03 14:22, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:

> i used to own one when i had a motorcycle ... stupidly gave it away to a
> friend ... it was a needle one ... i'll go take a look at the click ones you
> mentioned ...

You can get a good enough one for about thirty bucks, plus a
socket to match your nuts.

Then loosen the lugnuts and retighten to the proper torque.
Don't add any lube whatsoever unless your owner's manual or
a FACTORY service manual suggests it and in that case use
exactly the lube spec'd. When in doubt, don't add any lube.

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

4000 psi wrote:
>
> do i apply it in the direction of tightening and see what it reads or in the
> opposite direction?

The best option is to loosen the nut then re-torque it to spec. Second best would be to try tightening in place and see where the nut breaks free, but if you find its too tight, you'll need to back it off and torque up to spec. anyway, so why not just
back it off in the first place.

--
Roger

4000 psi wrote:
>
> do i apply it in the direction of tightening and see what it reads or in the
> opposite direction?

The best option is to loosen the nut then re-torque it to spec. Second best would be to try tightening in place and see where the nut breaks free, but if you find its too tight, you'll need to back it off and torque up to spec. anyway, so why not just
back it off in the first place.

--
Roger

well, to make a long story short ... it seems to me that during my last tire
rotation the dealer has over tightened the lug nuts ...

symptoms: when the breaks are applied at highway speeds the steering wheel
shakes ...

i did some research on this problem and it seems that the rotors are warped
and the most common cause is over tightening of the lug nuts ...

according to the dealer i still have 70% of the original break pads left in
the front ... but the rotors need to be machined and so i need a complete
break job to solve the problem ...

i just wanna make sure that if the dealer over tightened the lug nuts, then
he should give me a complementary break job to correct the problem that he
caused ...



"Roger Brown" > wrote in message
...
> 4000 psi wrote:
> >
> > do i apply it in the direction of tightening and see what it reads or in
the
> > opposite direction?
>
> The best option is to loosen the nut then re-torque it to spec. Second
best would be to try tightening in place and see where the nut breaks free,
but if you find its too tight, you'll need to back it off and torque up to
spec. anyway, so why not just
> back it off in the first place.
>
> --
> Roger

well, to make a long story short ... it seems to me that during my last tire
rotation the dealer has over tightened the lug nuts ...

symptoms: when the breaks are applied at highway speeds the steering wheel
shakes ...

i did some research on this problem and it seems that the rotors are warped
and the most common cause is over tightening of the lug nuts ...

according to the dealer i still have 70% of the original break pads left in
the front ... but the rotors need to be machined and so i need a complete
break job to solve the problem ...

i just wanna make sure that if the dealer over tightened the lug nuts, then
he should give me a complementary break job to correct the problem that he
caused ...



"Roger Brown" > wrote in message
...
> 4000 psi wrote:
> >
> > do i apply it in the direction of tightening and see what it reads or in
the
> > opposite direction?
>
> The best option is to loosen the nut then re-torque it to spec. Second
best would be to try tightening in place and see where the nut breaks free,
but if you find its too tight, you'll need to back it off and torque up to
spec. anyway, so why not just
> back it off in the first place.
>
> --
> Roger

Roughly 12/31/03 18:58, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:

> well, to make a long story short ... it seems to me that during my last tire
> rotation the dealer has over tightened the lug nuts ...
>
> symptoms: when the breaks are applied at highway speeds the steering wheel
> shakes ...
>
> i did some research on this problem and it seems that the rotors are warped
> and the most common cause is over tightening of the lug nuts ...
>
> according to the dealer i still have 70% of the original break pads left in
> the front ... but the rotors need to be machined and so i need a complete
> break job to solve the problem ...
>
> i just wanna make sure that if the dealer over tightened the lug nuts, then
> he should give me a complementary break job to correct the problem that he
> caused ...

I'd more expect that your brakes should be fixed under either
a warranty or a recall. This depends on the make and model of
your vehicle.

How did you diagnose that the lugnuts were too tight? If you
loosened them, is gonna be hard to convince the dealer that
he did it.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Roughly 12/31/03 18:58, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:

> well, to make a long story short ... it seems to me that during my last tire
> rotation the dealer has over tightened the lug nuts ...
>
> symptoms: when the breaks are applied at highway speeds the steering wheel
> shakes ...
>
> i did some research on this problem and it seems that the rotors are warped
> and the most common cause is over tightening of the lug nuts ...
>
> according to the dealer i still have 70% of the original break pads left in
> the front ... but the rotors need to be machined and so i need a complete
> break job to solve the problem ...
>
> i just wanna make sure that if the dealer over tightened the lug nuts, then
> he should give me a complementary break job to correct the problem that he
> caused ...

I'd more expect that your brakes should be fixed under either
a warranty or a recall. This depends on the make and model of
your vehicle.

How did you diagnose that the lugnuts were too tight? If you
loosened them, is gonna be hard to convince the dealer that
he did it.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

there is no recalls on breaks for this model ...

the car has developed this problem since last service that included a tire
rotation and right around 40k miles ...

i saw the dealer about it and he attributed it to the break pads warping the
disks, at this time i still had over 70% pad left (according to the
dealer)...

i read up about this on the net and came across the below link, which then
got me thinking may be i should check the lug nut torque, etc., etc.

http://www.infinitihelp.com/Infiniti...rakes/warp.htm


"L0nD0t.$t0we11" > wrote in message
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> Roughly 12/31/03 18:58, 4000 psi's monkeys randomly typed:
>
> > well, to make a long story short ... it seems to me that during my last
tire
> > rotation the dealer has over tightened the lug nuts ...
> >
> > symptoms: when the breaks are applied at highway speeds the steering
wheel
> > shakes ...
> >
> > i did some research on this problem and it seems that the rotors are
warped
> > and the most common cause is over tightening of the lug nuts ...
> >
> > according to the dealer i still have 70% of the original break pads left
in
> > the front ... but the rotors need to be machined and so i need a
complete
> > break job to solve the problem ...
> >
> > i just wanna make sure that if the dealer over tightened the lug nuts,
then
> > he should give me a complementary break job to correct the problem that
he
> > caused ...
>
> I'd more expect that your brakes should be fixed under either
> a warranty or a recall. This depends on the make and model of
> your vehicle.
>
> How did you diagnose that the lugnuts were too tight? If you
> loosened them, is gonna be hard to convince the dealer that
> he did it.
>
>
> --
> Fan of the dumbest team in America.
>