MIL eliminators

Huh... neat. Well, one of my cats is leaking... passenger side, closest to
exhaust manifold. I'm planning on just replacing the entire H-pipe with an
H-pipe with 2 hi-flow cats. Any recommendations? I am not too concerned with
whether or not I gain power... I know that there won't be any MASSIVE power
gains (if any really), but it'd be nice if maybe exhaust was a *tad* deeper
and/or louder. I still haven't heard it from outside the car.. so I dunno. I
really should change my sig...

-Mike

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Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Full Boar turbo mufflers
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors


"WraithCobra" > wrote in message
...
> It should.
> --
> Mike
> Silver 10th Anniversary Cobra Coupe
> ---
>
> wrote:
> > So if you have an O/R H-pipe... it has fittings for the 2 front O2
> > sensors?
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> >
> > "WraithCobra" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> They are only used on the after-cat O2's which are used to track
> >> converter efficiency for OBDII compliance. They are not used on the
> >> front 2 sensors which the computer uses to verify a/f ratio.
> >> --
> >> Mike
> >> Silver 10th Anniversary Cobra Coupe
> >> ---
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>> oic... but wouldn't that affect gas mileage & how the car performs?
> >>> since it isn't an accurate reading?
> >>>
> >>> -Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "2.3Sleeper" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> MIL eliminators trick the computer. On the newer model cars, the
> >>>> check engine light will go one when you go to an O/R X or H pipe.
> >>>> The Mil's plug into the O2 sensor wires, tricking the computer.
> >>>>
> >>>> Don Manning
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > wrote in message
> >>>> om...
> >>>>> First off... let me just say.. I am *not* getting an off-road
> >>>>> crossover pipe. BUT... I do wonder what MIL eliminators are (I
> >>>>> almost typed MILF hehe caught myself though) and how they work. As
> >>>>> far as I know, they supposedly replace O2 sensors?? Would you need
> >>>>> MIL eliminators with an H-pipe that only had 2 hi-flow cats? TIA.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Mike
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> >>>>> Cold air intake
> >>>>> FRPP 3.73 gears
> >>>>> Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> >>>>> Full Boar turbo mufflers
> >>>>> Hi-speed fan switch
> >>>>> 255/60R-15 rear tires
> >>>>> Subframe connectors
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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>

weeee changed sig .

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A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors


"WraithCobra" > wrote in message
...
> It should.
> --
> Mike
> Silver 10th Anniversary Cobra Coupe
> ---
>
> wrote:
> > So if you have an O/R H-pipe... it has fittings for the 2 front O2
> > sensors?
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> >
> > "WraithCobra" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> They are only used on the after-cat O2's which are used to track
> >> converter efficiency for OBDII compliance. They are not used on the
> >> front 2 sensors which the computer uses to verify a/f ratio.
> >> --
> >> Mike
> >> Silver 10th Anniversary Cobra Coupe
> >> ---
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>> oic... but wouldn't that affect gas mileage & how the car performs?
> >>> since it isn't an accurate reading?
> >>>
> >>> -Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "2.3Sleeper" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> MIL eliminators trick the computer. On the newer model cars, the
> >>>> check engine light will go one when you go to an O/R X or H pipe.
> >>>> The Mil's plug into the O2 sensor wires, tricking the computer.
> >>>>
> >>>> Don Manning
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > wrote in message
> >>>> om...
> >>>>> First off... let me just say.. I am *not* getting an off-road
> >>>>> crossover pipe. BUT... I do wonder what MIL eliminators are (I
> >>>>> almost typed MILF hehe caught myself though) and how they work. As
> >>>>> far as I know, they supposedly replace O2 sensors?? Would you need
> >>>>> MIL eliminators with an H-pipe that only had 2 hi-flow cats? TIA.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Mike
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> >>>>> Cold air intake
> >>>>> FRPP 3.73 gears
> >>>>> Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> >>>>> Full Boar turbo mufflers
> >>>>> Hi-speed fan switch
> >>>>> 255/60R-15 rear tires
> >>>>> Subframe connectors
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> >>>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> >>>> Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 11/19/2004
>
>

They're only hooked up to the rear O2 sensors. If you disable the front O2
sensors, the computer will take its calculations for fuel based only on the
intake side with no feedback of how it's doing on the exhaust side. The
front O2 sensors allow your computer to run at closed loop and provide more
exact air/fuel ratios.

Now, the rear O2 sensors... they're on the car to make sure the cats are
doing their job and keeping exhaust emissions levels down. They are of no
harm in a stock car, but most aftermarket H/X pipes don't have the fittings
for them, and thus the need to use the eliminators to keep the check engine
light from coming on and the computer from going into open loop mode
(reduced performance) in some models.

JS

"Deputy Dog" > wrote in message
news:qJOrd.4559$8v3.2771@trndny08...
> They trick the puter into thinking all is hunky dory so you do get optimum
> preformance.
>
> dave
>
> > wrote in message
> om...
>> oic... but wouldn't that affect gas mileage & how the car performs? since
>> it
>> isn't an accurate reading?
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>> --
>> A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
>> Cold air intake
>> FRPP 3.73 gears
>> Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
>> Full Boar turbo mufflers
>> Hi-speed fan switch
>> 255/60R-15 rear tires
>> Subframe connectors
>>
>>
>> "2.3Sleeper" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> MIL eliminators trick the computer. On the newer model cars, the check
>>> engine light will go one when you go to an O/R X or H pipe. The Mil's
>>> plug
>>> into the O2 sensor wires, tricking the computer.
>>>
>>> Don Manning
>>>
>>>
>>> > wrote in message
>>> om...
>>> > First off... let me just say.. I am *not* getting an off-road
>>> > crossover
>>> > pipe. BUT... I do wonder what MIL eliminators are (I almost typed MILF
>>> hehe
>>> > caught myself though) and how they work. As far as I know, they
>> supposedly
>>> > replace O2 sensors?? Would you need MIL eliminators with an H-pipe
>>> > that
>>> only
>>> > had 2 hi-flow cats? TIA.
>>> >
>>> > -Mike
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
>>> > Cold air intake
>>> > FRPP 3.73 gears
>>> > Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
>>> > Full Boar turbo mufflers
>>> > Hi-speed fan switch
>>> > 255/60R-15 rear tires
>>> > Subframe connectors
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
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>>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>>> Version: 6.0.799 / Virus Database: 543 - Release Date: 11/19/2004
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

I think you meant to say "off road" H/X pipes?
My Bassani catted X has the four bungs for the sensors.

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JS wrote:
but most aftermarket H/X pipes don't have the fittings
> for them, and thus the need to use the eliminators to keep the check engine
> light from coming on and the computer from going into open loop mode
> (reduced performance) in some models.
>
> JS

I drove a '01 convert, silver and black, with 20k miles on it on monday.
They want $20K for it. It's nice but I don't know if I want to spend $20k
for it, although that's not a bad price for it. I still have problems
shifting with my shoulder so I might have to wait another month or so. I
think I'm starting to get too fussy as i'd love to have another green and
tan one and the closest one I found so far is a '99 in conneticut, I live in
pennsylvania. There are alot of black and red ones close by but I'm still
looking. I've got to get my bosses (wife's) permission yet also. lol
excobra boy

> wrote in message
. com...
> Ok cool. Thx. Any luck finding a new car yet? Any prospects?
>
> -Mike
>
> --
> A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> Cold air intake
> FRPP 3.73 gears
> Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> Full Boar turbo mufflers
> Hi-speed fan switch
> 255/60R-15 rear tires
> Subframe connectors
>
>
> "cobra boy" > wrote in message
> news:2EErd.4492$8v3.877@trndny08...
> > Mike,
> > I didn't have to when i put on my bbk x-pipe with only two cats.
> > Excobra boy
> > > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > First off... let me just say.. I am *not* getting an off-road
crossover
> > > pipe. BUT... I do wonder what MIL eliminators are (I almost typed MILF
> > hehe
> > > caught myself though) and how they work. As far as I know, they
> supposedly
> > > replace O2 sensors?? Would you need MIL eliminators with an H-pipe
that
> > only
> > > had 2 hi-flow cats? TIA.
> > >
> > > -Mike
> > >
> > > --
> > > A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> > > Cold air intake
> > > FRPP 3.73 gears
> > > Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> > > Full Boar turbo mufflers
> > > Hi-speed fan switch
> > > 255/60R-15 rear tires
> > > Subframe connectors
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>