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Old February 1st 07, 09:50 PM posted to alt.autos.bmw
Psycho
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Default Alternator troubles...

I have an 89 325i that has recently begun having battery issues.
Sometimes when I step on the brakes, the radio cuts out for a brief
moment and then comes back on. Today, the battery light remained
illuminated until I was a few miles down the road and the radio issue
has become far more frequent. Also, I got the 1231 motronic code (low
voltage). I know replacing the entire alternator will fix this but
what are the chances that it's just the brushes/voltage regulator
module?
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Old February 1st 07, 10:49 PM posted to alt.autos.bmw
Floyd Rogers[_1_]
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Default Alternator troubles...

"Psycho" > wrote
>I have an 89 325i that has recently begun having battery issues.
> Sometimes when I step on the brakes, the radio cuts out for a brief
> moment and then comes back on. Today, the battery light remained
> illuminated until I was a few miles down the road and the radio issue
> has become far more frequent. Also, I got the 1231 motronic code (low
> voltage). I know replacing the entire alternator will fix this but
> what are the chances that it's just the brushes/voltage regulator
> module?


The chances are high that replacing the brushes/vr will fix it. And
since it's cheap and easy to do, you should try that first.

FloydR


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Old February 1st 07, 11:11 PM posted to alt.autos.bmw
Thomas Wright
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Default Alternator troubles...

Floyd Rogers wrote:
> "Psycho" > wrote
>
>>I have an 89 325i that has recently begun having battery issues.
>>Sometimes when I step on the brakes, the radio cuts out for a brief
>>moment and then comes back on. Today, the battery light remained
>>illuminated until I was a few miles down the road and the radio issue
>>has become far more frequent. Also, I got the 1231 motronic code (low
>>voltage). I know replacing the entire alternator will fix this but
>>what are the chances that it's just the brushes/voltage regulator
>>module?

>
>
> The chances are high that replacing the brushes/vr will fix it. And
> since it's cheap and easy to do, you should try that first.
>
> FloydR
>
>

It wouldn't hurt to put a voltmeter on the system first. With the key
off, the battery should be about 12.5 volts. With the engine idling, it
should be around 1-2 volts higher than that.
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Old February 2nd 07, 12:34 AM posted to alt.autos.bmw
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Alternator troubles...

In article >,
Psycho > wrote:
> I have an 89 325i that has recently begun having battery issues.
> Sometimes when I step on the brakes, the radio cuts out for a brief
> moment and then comes back on. Today, the battery light remained
> illuminated until I was a few miles down the road and the radio issue
> has become far more frequent. Also, I got the 1231 motronic code (low
> voltage). I know replacing the entire alternator will fix this but
> what are the chances that it's just the brushes/voltage regulator
> module?


Worth the gamble.

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Old February 2nd 07, 12:37 AM posted to alt.autos.bmw
Psycho
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Default Alternator troubles...

System voltage remains unchanged with motor running or off. Guess I'll
order a regulator module and hope for the best...

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:11:15 GMT, Thomas Wright
> wrote:

>Floyd Rogers wrote:
>> "Psycho" > wrote
>>
>>>I have an 89 325i that has recently begun having battery issues.
>>>Sometimes when I step on the brakes, the radio cuts out for a brief
>>>moment and then comes back on. Today, the battery light remained
>>>illuminated until I was a few miles down the road and the radio issue
>>>has become far more frequent. Also, I got the 1231 motronic code (low
>>>voltage). I know replacing the entire alternator will fix this but
>>>what are the chances that it's just the brushes/voltage regulator
>>>module?

>>
>>
>> The chances are high that replacing the brushes/vr will fix it. And
>> since it's cheap and easy to do, you should try that first.
>>
>> FloydR
>>
>>

>It wouldn't hurt to put a voltmeter on the system first. With the key
>off, the battery should be about 12.5 volts. With the engine idling, it
>should be around 1-2 volts higher than that.

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Old February 2nd 07, 10:15 PM posted to alt.autos.bmw
Psycho
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Default Alternator troubles...

I can't get a replacement until Monday... In the meantime, I have a
similiar part 1 197 311022 (the suspected bad part is a 1 197 311021)
but am not sure if they are compatible. The only visible difference is
that there is a component, possibly a diode, across the terminals of
the regulator. Any ideas???

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:50:09 -0500, Psycho > wrote:

>I have an 89 325i that has recently begun having battery issues.
>Sometimes when I step on the brakes, the radio cuts out for a brief
>moment and then comes back on. Today, the battery light remained
>illuminated until I was a few miles down the road and the radio issue
>has become far more frequent. Also, I got the 1231 motronic code (low
>voltage). I know replacing the entire alternator will fix this but
>what are the chances that it's just the brushes/voltage regulator
>module?

  #7  
Old February 3rd 07, 01:37 AM posted to alt.autos.bmw
Psycho
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Default Alternator troubles...

Follow up... As the specs for the two parts were the same, I figured
what the heck. I put the other regulator in and it works just fine.
The original part failed because the brushes were worn away to
nothing. There was no spring tension left (due to the brush wear) to
hold the brush against the stator. New (used) part fixed the
problem... On to the next project, Zender body kit installation amd
paint!!!

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 17:15:06 -0500, Psycho > wrote:

> I can't get a replacement until Monday... In the meantime, I have a
>similiar part 1 197 311022 (the suspected bad part is a 1 197 311021)
>but am not sure if they are compatible. The only visible difference is
>that there is a component, possibly a diode, across the terminals of
>the regulator. Any ideas???
>
>On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:50:09 -0500, Psycho > wrote:
>
>>I have an 89 325i that has recently begun having battery issues.
>>Sometimes when I step on the brakes, the radio cuts out for a brief
>>moment and then comes back on. Today, the battery light remained
>>illuminated until I was a few miles down the road and the radio issue
>>has become far more frequent. Also, I got the 1231 motronic code (low
>>voltage). I know replacing the entire alternator will fix this but
>>what are the chances that it's just the brushes/voltage regulator
>>module?

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Old February 3rd 07, 09:17 AM posted to alt.autos.bmw
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Alternator troubles...

In article >,
Psycho > wrote:
> I can't get a replacement until Monday... In the meantime, I have a
> similiar part 1 197 311022 (the suspected bad part is a 1 197 311021)
> but am not sure if they are compatible. The only visible difference is
> that there is a component, possibly a diode, across the terminals of
> the regulator. Any ideas???


Could be just extra RFI supression.

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Old February 3rd 07, 11:58 AM posted to alt.autos.bmw
Psycho
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Default Alternator troubles...

Hadn't thought of that. Putting a meter on it didn't tell me much.
Noise suppression would be nice thought. The voltage regulator came
out of a Volvo 740 Turbo. Wish it still had the turbo....

On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:17:26 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
> wrote:

>In article >,
> Psycho > wrote:
>> I can't get a replacement until Monday... In the meantime, I have a
>> similiar part 1 197 311022 (the suspected bad part is a 1 197 311021)
>> but am not sure if they are compatible. The only visible difference is
>> that there is a component, possibly a diode, across the terminals of
>> the regulator. Any ideas???

>
>Could be just extra RFI supression.

  #10  
Old February 3rd 07, 03:53 PM posted to alt.autos.bmw
Richard Sexton
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Default Alternator troubles...

Go ahead and try. Your chances of blowing something up are low.

In article >,
Psycho > wrote:
> I can't get a replacement until Monday... In the meantime, I have a
>similiar part 1 197 311022 (the suspected bad part is a 1 197 311021)
>but am not sure if they are compatible. The only visible difference is
>that there is a component, possibly a diode, across the terminals of
>the regulator. Any ideas???
>
>On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:50:09 -0500, Psycho > wrote:
>
>>I have an 89 325i that has recently begun having battery issues.
>>Sometimes when I step on the brakes, the radio cuts out for a brief
>>moment and then comes back on. Today, the battery light remained
>>illuminated until I was a few miles down the road and the radio issue
>>has become far more frequent. Also, I got the 1231 motronic code (low
>>voltage). I know replacing the entire alternator will fix this but
>>what are the chances that it's just the brushes/voltage regulator
>>module?



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