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jack pad slot height
What good is a jackpad with a slot if the slot is not deeper than the thing it holds? Isn't the idea that the weld area fits completely in the slot and the car is supported on either side of the slot? I accidentally came across a jack pad with a slot in it, so the weld line on unibody cars doesn't hold the weight of the car when you jack it up. And that's when I realized a) I need that, b) the jack that came with the car has a slot, but if I jack it up at home I use a better jack with no slot, c) there is already damage from people before me jacking it up, and d) the drain holes in the fender could be damaged if I were stupid enough to put the jack there. But...... the slots range from 1/4 inch to 0.63 inches, and my pinch weld is almost an inch high on the outside and higher yet on the inside. What good is that? |
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micky posted for all of us...
> > What good is a jackpad with a slot if the slot is not deeper than the > thing it holds? Isn't the idea that the weld area fits completely in > the slot and the car is supported on either side of the slot? > > > I accidentally came across a jack pad with a slot in it, so the weld > line on unibody cars doesn't hold the weight of the car when you jack it > up. And that's when I realized a) I need that, b) the jack that came > with the car has a slot, but if I jack it up at home I use a better jack > with no slot, c) there is already damage from people before me jacking > it up, and d) the drain holes in the fender could be damaged if I were > stupid enough to put the jack there. > > But...... the slots range from 1/4 inch to 0.63 inches, and my pinch > weld is almost an inch high on the outside and higher yet on the inside. > > What good is that? Clare, before you reply note it is Micky... -- Tekkie |
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 6 Sep 2017 15:07:25 -0400, Tekkie®
> wrote: >micky posted for all of us... > > >> >> What good is a jackpad with a slot if the slot is not deeper than the >> thing it holds? Isn't the idea that the weld area fits completely in >> the slot and the car is supported on either side of the slot? >> >> >> I accidentally came across a jack pad with a slot in it, so the weld >> line on unibody cars doesn't hold the weight of the car when you jack it >> up. And that's when I realized a) I need that, b) the jack that came >> with the car has a slot, but if I jack it up at home I use a better jack >> with no slot, c) there is already damage from people before me jacking >> it up, and d) the drain holes in the fender could be damaged if I were >> stupid enough to put the jack there. >> >> But...... the slots range from 1/4 inch to 0.63 inches, and my pinch >> weld is almost an inch high on the outside and higher yet on the inside. >> >> What good is that? > >Clare, before you reply note it is Micky... Another one of your worthless posts. I guess this means you don't know the answer. |
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On 9/7/2017 7:15 AM, BurfordTJustice wrote:
> You should never come out of your 'safe space" > > > > > "micky" > wrote in message > ... >> >> What good is a jackpad with a slot if the slot is not deeper than the >> thing it holds? Isn't the idea that the weld area fits completely in >> the slot and the car is supported on either side of the slot? >> >> >> I accidentally came across a jack pad with a slot in it, so the weld >> line on unibody cars doesn't hold the weight of the car when you jack it >> up. And that's when I realized a) I need that, b) the jack that came >> with the car has a slot, but if I jack it up at home I use a better jack >> with no slot, c) there is already damage from people before me jacking >> it up, and d) the drain holes in the fender could be damaged if I were >> stupid enough to put the jack there. >> >> But...... the slots range from 1/4 inch to 0.63 inches, and my pinch >> weld is almost an inch high on the outside and higher yet on the inside. >> >> What good is that? > > discussed here : http://www.rockauto.com/Newsletter/ -- Andrew Muzi <www.yellowjersey.org/> Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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In rec.autos.tech, on Thu, 07 Sep 2017 16:15:21 -0500, AMuzi
> wrote: >> "micky" > wrote in message >> ... >>> >>> What good is a jackpad with a slot if the slot is not deeper than the >>> thing it holds? Isn't the idea that the weld area fits completely in >>> the slot and the car is supported on either side of the slot? >>> >>> >>> I accidentally came across a jack pad with a slot in it, so the weld >>> line on unibody cars doesn't hold the weight of the car when you jack it >>> up. And that's when I realized a) I need that, b) the jack that came >>> with the car has a slot, but if I jack it up at home I use a better jack >>> with no slot, c) there is already damage from people before me jacking >>> it up, and d) the drain holes in the fender could be damaged if I were >>> stupid enough to put the jack there. >>> >>> But...... the slots range from 1/4 inch to 0.63 inches, and my pinch >>> weld is almost an inch high on the outside and higher yet on the inside. >>> >>> What good is that? >> > >discussed here : >http://www.rockauto.com/Newsletter/ This is great. Thanks. The poster says "I set the blade on my table saw so it cuts slightly deeper than the height of the pinch weld", so he seems to understand the idea better than any of those who make and sell them commercially. The vendors had pictures and one or two showed that the car was still resting on the pinch weld, inside the slot. This mattered especially because my new 2004 Sebring had the water drains inside the pinch weld, about 5 per side, instead of having an opening at the rear end of the rocker panel like every other convertible I've had, and convertibles get a lot of water between their roof and the trunk. They're designed that way, with a gutter that runs the water to the side. But even though I can avoid the putting the jack where a drain is, I don't like crusing part of my car. There is already damage from before I had the car. Unfortunately, the engine failed on the Sebring last Sunday, after I had the car for 10 weeks and 800 miles! That will teach me not to buy a 2.7L engine. So yesterday I bought another Solara, and even though I've had one for 6 years, I don't remember if it has a pinch weld or not. |
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micky > wrote:
>Unfortunately, the engine failed on the Sebring last Sunday, after I had >the car for 10 weeks and 800 miles! That will teach me not to buy a >2.7L engine. So yesterday I bought another Solara, and even though I've >had one for 6 years, I don't remember if it has a pinch weld or not. So, what failed? Did the car come with a log so you could see that maintenance had been done on it? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
> micky > wrote: >> Unfortunately, the engine failed on the Sebring last Sunday, after I had >> the car for 10 weeks and 800 miles! That will teach me not to buy a >> 2.7L engine. So yesterday I bought another Solara, and even though I've >> had one for 6 years, I don't remember if it has a pinch weld or not. > > So, what failed? Did the car come with a log so you could see that > maintenance had been done on it? > --scott Broken or seized cams are common with the 2.7. Life expectancy of that engine is about 65k miles. The back 2 cylinders don't cool and the over heating causes the oil to gel and sludge blocking the oil galleries to the cylinder heads. |
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In rec.autos.tech, on Sat, 16 Sep 2017 13:47:35 -0500, Paul in Houston
TX > wrote: >Scott Dorsey wrote: >> micky > wrote: >>> Unfortunately, the engine failed on the Sebring last Sunday, after I had >>> the car for 10 weeks and 800 miles! That will teach me not to buy a a Chrysler one. I haven't come across the same size by anyone else, but there are only 21 numbers between 2 and 4. >>> 2.7L engine. So yesterday I bought another Solara, and even though I've >>> had one for 6 years, I don't remember if it has a pinch weld or not. >> >> So, what failed? Did the car come with a log so you could see that >> maintenance had been done on it? >> --scott > >Broken or seized cams are common with the 2.7. >Life expectancy of that engine is about 65k miles. >The back 2 cylinders don't cool and the over heating causes the oil to >gel and sludge blocking the oil galleries to the cylinder heads. I knew about the sludge (after I bought the car) but you're the first to talk about the back two cylinders, overheating, or gel. Interesting. I wonder if an ice pack would have helped. |
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2017 11:00:39 -0400, micky >
wrote: >In rec.autos.tech, on Thu, 07 Sep 2017 16:15:21 -0500, AMuzi > wrote: > >>> "micky" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> >>>> What good is a jackpad with a slot if the slot is not deeper than the >>>> thing it holds? Isn't the idea that the weld area fits completely in >>>> the slot and the car is supported on either side of the slot? >>>> >>>> >>>> I accidentally came across a jack pad with a slot in it, so the weld >>>> line on unibody cars doesn't hold the weight of the car when you jack it >>>> up. And that's when I realized a) I need that, b) the jack that came >>>> with the car has a slot, but if I jack it up at home I use a better jack >>>> with no slot, c) there is already damage from people before me jacking >>>> it up, and d) the drain holes in the fender could be damaged if I were >>>> stupid enough to put the jack there. >>>> >>>> But...... the slots range from 1/4 inch to 0.63 inches, and my pinch >>>> weld is almost an inch high on the outside and higher yet on the inside. >>>> >>>> What good is that? >>> >> >>discussed here : >>http://www.rockauto.com/Newsletter/ > >This is great. Thanks. The poster says "I set the blade on my table >saw so it cuts slightly deeper than the height of the pinch weld", so he >seems to understand the idea better than any of those who make and sell >them commercially. The vendors had pictures and one or two showed that >the car was still resting on the pinch weld, inside the slot. > >This mattered especially because my new 2004 Sebring had the water >drains inside the pinch weld, about 5 per side, instead of having an >opening at the rear end of the rocker panel like every other convertible >I've had, and convertibles get a lot of water between their roof and the >trunk. They're designed that way, with a gutter that runs the water to >the side. But even though I can avoid the putting the jack where a >drain is, I don't like crusing part of my car. There is already damage >from before I had the car. > >Unfortunately, the engine failed on the Sebring last Sunday, after I had >the car for 10 weeks and 800 miles! That will teach me not to buy a >2.7L engine. So yesterday I bought another Solara, and even though I've >had one for 6 years, I don't remember if it has a pinch weld or not. I'm not usually none to say "i told you so" but I DID say "it looks good on your driveway" or something very similar. - - - - |
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