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Old February 4th 12, 05:31 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,misc.transport.trucking
Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway criminals
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Default Florrida cracks down on "Move-Over" violators



http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/pal...,4392084.story

Crackdown in effect for 'Move Over' law violators

8:31 p.m. EST, February 3, 2012
If you spot Cpl. John Baker stopped on the side of the road, you may
want to change lanes.

Officials say that could save a life and spare you a $165 fine.

Baker, a Florida Highway Patrol trooper, is among the thousands of
Florida law enforcement agents who plan to keep an eye out this month
for violators of the state's "Move Over" law as part of a education
campaign.

The law requires drivers to move over at least one lane away from any
emergency vehicle or tow truck parked on the roadside with its
emergency lights on.

If moving over can't be done safely or when traveling on a two-lane
roadway, the driver is required to slow down to 20 mph under the
posted speed limit.

Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
motorists

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Old February 7th 12, 02:49 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,misc.transport.trucking
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Default Florrida cracks down on "Move-Over" violators

On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:31:59 -0800 (PST), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales -
GM loves highway criminals > wrote:

>
>
>http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/pal...,4392084.story
>
>Crackdown in effect for 'Move Over' law violators
>
>8:31 p.m. EST, February 3, 2012
>If you spot Cpl. John Baker stopped on the side of the road, you may
>want to change lanes.
>
>Officials say that could save a life and spare you a $165 fine.
>
>Baker, a Florida Highway Patrol trooper, is among the thousands of
>Florida law enforcement agents who plan to keep an eye out this month
>for violators of the state's "Move Over" law as part of a education
>campaign.
>
>The law requires drivers to move over at least one lane away from any
>emergency vehicle or tow truck parked on the roadside with its
>emergency lights on.
>
>If moving over can't be done safely or when traveling on a two-lane
>roadway, the driver is required to slow down to 20 mph under the
>posted speed limit.
>
>Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
>officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
>say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
>stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
>motorists
>

Looks like a formula for disaster. Any time one changes lanes there's
an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed.
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Old February 7th 12, 05:40 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,misc.transport.trucking
N8N
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Default Florrida cracks down on "Move-Over" violators

On Feb 7, 9:49*am, Dave Head > wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:31:59 -0800 (PST), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales -
> GM loves highway criminals > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/pal...r-push-2012020...

>
> >Crackdown in effect for 'Move Over' law violators

>
> >8:31 p.m. EST, February 3, 2012
> >If you spot Cpl. John Baker stopped on the side of the road, you may
> >want to change lanes.

>
> >Officials say that could save a life and spare you a $165 fine.

>
> >Baker, a Florida Highway Patrol trooper, is among the thousands of
> >Florida law enforcement agents who plan to keep an eye out this month
> >for violators of the state's "Move Over" law as part of a education
> >campaign.

>
> >The law requires drivers to move over at least one lane away from any
> >emergency vehicle or tow truck parked on the roadside with its
> >emergency lights on.

>
> >If moving over can't be done safely or when traveling on a two-lane
> >roadway, the driver is required to slow down to 20 mph under the
> >posted speed limit.

>
> >Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
> >officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
> >say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
> >stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
> >motorists

>
> Looks like a formula for disaster. *Any time one changes lanes there's
> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed.


We have a similar law here in VA; I try to obey it but it seems that
for the most part it's ignored. And it's not slow to 20 MPH, but 35
MPH (55 MPH - 20 MPH) but that still is not really a good idea given
that traffic generally is flowing faster and drivers are generally
oblivious. For that reason I will opt to change lanes instead
whenever possible.

nate
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Old February 7th 12, 06:35 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,misc.transport.trucking
Dave Head
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Default Florrida cracks down on "Move-Over" violators

On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:40:04 -0800 (PST), N8N >
wrote:

>On Feb 7, 9:49*am, Dave Head > wrote:
>> On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:31:59 -0800 (PST), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales -
>> GM loves highway criminals > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/pal...r-push-2012020...

>>
>> >Crackdown in effect for 'Move Over' law violators

>>
>> >8:31 p.m. EST, February 3, 2012
>> >If you spot Cpl. John Baker stopped on the side of the road, you may
>> >want to change lanes.

>>
>> >Officials say that could save a life and spare you a $165 fine.

>>
>> >Baker, a Florida Highway Patrol trooper, is among the thousands of
>> >Florida law enforcement agents who plan to keep an eye out this month
>> >for violators of the state's "Move Over" law as part of a education
>> >campaign.

>>
>> >The law requires drivers to move over at least one lane away from any
>> >emergency vehicle or tow truck parked on the roadside with its
>> >emergency lights on.

>>
>> >If moving over can't be done safely or when traveling on a two-lane
>> >roadway, the driver is required to slow down to 20 mph under the
>> >posted speed limit.

>>
>> >Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
>> >officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
>> >say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
>> >stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
>> >motorists

>>
>> Looks like a formula for disaster. *Any time one changes lanes there's
>> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
>> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
>> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed.

>
>We have a similar law here in VA; I try to obey it but it seems that
>for the most part it's ignored. And it's not slow to 20 MPH, but 35
>MPH (55 MPH - 20 MPH) but that still is not really a good idea given
>that traffic generally is flowing faster and drivers are generally
>oblivious. For that reason I will opt to change lanes instead
>whenever possible.
>
>nate


Yeah, I'm in Virginia too, and think our law sucks as well. I'll try
to change lanes, but it is thoroughly dangerous, as this state has
MORE of those that think that they have to drive RIGHT BESIDE YOU,
rather than behind or ahead, so changing lanes is seriously risky
unless you can absolutely determine that there is no one there. If I
can't determine that satisfactorily, I'll slow a little, and if they
don't like that, they can just chase me. When the law says one thing
and safety says another, I go with safety.
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Old February 7th 12, 06:40 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,misc.transport.trucking
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Default Florrida cracks down on "Move-Over" violators

In Dave Head
> wrote:

> On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:31:59 -0800 (PST), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales -
> GM loves highway criminals > wrote:
>>
>>Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
>>officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
>>say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
>>stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
>>motorists
>>

> Looks like a formula for disaster. Any time one changes lanes there's
> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed.


That doesn't matter.

The law is intended to protect police and other government agents; they
don't care what happens to civilian drivers as a result.

--
St. Paul, MN
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Old February 7th 12, 06:50 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,misc.transport.trucking
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Default Florrida cracks down on "Move-Over" violators

On 07 Feb 2012 18:40:42 GMT, Bert > wrote:

>In Dave Head
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:31:59 -0800 (PST), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales -
>> GM loves highway criminals > wrote:
>>>
>>>Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
>>>officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
>>>say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
>>>stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
>>>motorists
>>>

>> Looks like a formula for disaster. Any time one changes lanes there's
>> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
>> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
>> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed.

>
>That doesn't matter.


Anything that might result in me bleeding matters to me.

>The law is intended to protect police and other government agents; they
>don't care what happens to civilian drivers as a result.


If there's a big crash when someone attempts to change lanes into
someone else, the cop ahead is likely to have TWO cars rushing at him
out of control. Wonder if they've thought of that.
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Old February 7th 12, 08:39 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,misc.transport.trucking
The Real Bev[_5_]
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Default Florrida cracks down on "Move-Over" violators

On 02/07/2012 10:50 AM, Dave Head wrote:

> On 07 Feb 2012 18:40:42 GMT, > wrote:
>
>>In Dave Head
> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:31:59 -0800 (PST), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales -
>>> GM loves highway > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
>>>>officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
>>>>say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
>>>>stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
>>>>motorists
>>>>
>>> Looks like a formula for disaster. Any time one changes lanes there's
>>> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
>>> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
>>> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed.

>>
>>That doesn't matter.

>
> Anything that might result in me bleeding matters to me.
>
>>The law is intended to protect police and other government agents; they
>>don't care what happens to civilian drivers as a result.

>
> If there's a big crash when someone attempts to change lanes into
> someone else, the cop ahead is likely to have TWO cars rushing at him
> out of control. Wonder if they've thought of that.


Hmmm. So there IS a bright side...

I think California passed something like that, I'd forgotten about it,
and I'm pretty sure everybody else did too. Doing anything different or
surprising on the freeway just increases the danger.

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that I get up early on Sundays to apologize for being human.
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Old February 8th 12, 01:30 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,misc.transport.trucking
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Default Florrida cracks down on "Move-Over" violators

On 07/02/2012 3:39 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 02/07/2012 10:50 AM, Dave Head wrote:
>
>> On 07 Feb 2012 18:40:42 GMT, > wrote:
>>
>>> In Dave Head
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:31:59 -0800 (PST), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales -
>>>> GM loves highway > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
>>>>> officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
>>>>> say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
>>>>> stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
>>>>> motorists
>>>>>
>>>> Looks like a formula for disaster. Any time one changes lanes there's
>>>> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
>>>> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
>>>> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed.
>>>
>>> That doesn't matter.

>>
>> Anything that might result in me bleeding matters to me.
>>
>>> The law is intended to protect police and other government agents; they
>>> don't care what happens to civilian drivers as a result.

>>
>> If there's a big crash when someone attempts to change lanes into
>> someone else, the cop ahead is likely to have TWO cars rushing at him
>> out of control. Wonder if they've thought of that.

>
> Hmmm. So there IS a bright side...
>
> I think California passed something like that, I'd forgotten about it,
> and I'm pretty sure everybody else did too. Doing anything different or
> surprising on the freeway just increases the danger.
>


Seems to have been a reading comprehension problem here. It said 20
mph *less* than the *posted* speed limit. Not down to 20 mph.

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Old February 10th 12, 09:28 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,misc.transport.trucking
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Default Florrida cracks down on "Move-Over" violators


"Dave Head" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:31:59 -0800 (PST), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales -
> GM loves highway criminals > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/pal...,4392084.story
>>
>>Crackdown in effect for 'Move Over' law violators
>>
>>8:31 p.m. EST, February 3, 2012
>>If you spot Cpl. John Baker stopped on the side of the road, you may
>>want to change lanes.
>>
>>Officials say that could save a life and spare you a $165 fine.
>>
>>Baker, a Florida Highway Patrol trooper, is among the thousands of
>>Florida law enforcement agents who plan to keep an eye out this month
>>for violators of the state's "Move Over" law as part of a education
>>campaign.
>>
>>The law requires drivers to move over at least one lane away from any
>>emergency vehicle or tow truck parked on the roadside with its
>>emergency lights on.
>>
>>If moving over can't be done safely or when traveling on a two-lane
>>roadway, the driver is required to slow down to 20 mph under the
>>posted speed limit.
>>
>>Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
>>officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
>>say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
>>stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
>>motorists
>>

> Looks like a formula for disaster. Any time one changes lanes there's
> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed.

Slow to 20 UNDER the posted speed limit.
But still eh


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Old February 18th 12, 08:35 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,talk.politics.misc,alt.true-crime,misc.transport.trucking
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Default Florrida cracks down on "Move-Over" violators

On Feb 7, 9:49*am, Dave Head > wrote:

>
> Looks like a formula for disaster. *Any time one changes lanes there's
> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed. *- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

_____________

Add to that not signalling before changing lanes, travelling too fast
for conditions, etc.

-CC
 




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