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Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
Hi, I just bought a 2001 A4 1.8T Fwd Trip with 116K miles on it a few
days ago. This morning the car started up fine (the OK! display came on) and I drove to the end of my street where I stopped at a stop sign. At the stop, the car turned off by its-self and wouldn't restart after that. Here's what happens when I try to restart my car. 1. All the lights turn on and everything electronic works fine. 2. The engine makes a "whiirrrrr"ing noise, but does not turn. I didn't think it was the battery, but I tried jump starting it anyways. That didn't work, so its not the battery. I've spent a considerable time searching the forum and from the info posted I think its the starter. To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to the engine crank. Someone in a previous post suggested that tapping the starter with a hammer to see if that works. I'd like to try that but I have no idea where the starter is and what it looks like Also, I'm still not 100% convinced that its the starter because that still doesn't explain why the car died in the first place. So what do you guys think? Starter or something else? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'd really be grateful if someone in the area (Orlando, FL) would be willing to stop by and help me solve this problem or if someone could recommend a good (and relatively inexpensive!) mechanic who I can take the car to. Someone in a previous post recommended Hans in altamonte springs, but that was a year old post. Any comments or other alternatives? Also, I'd like to get involved with local Audi owners, I don't know much about auto repair but I'm handy with tools and willing to learn. If someone has any projects that they need some help on, I'd like to help. (Or if someone would like to help/guide me though repairing my own car!) Get in touch with me guys, I'm in the UCF Area. I see lots of nice looking A4's cruising along. Where art thou? Please somebody come around and help me figure out what to do with my current problem, it'd be great if somebody could bring a VAG! |
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Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
Don't laugh, but... Do you have a cigarette lighter low on your console? Is
the lighter in it? My son threw his change on the area in front of his shifter, and a coin fell into where the cigarette lighter is when he hit the brakes car died. my2cents. -- please reply to bargerw NO @ SPAM bellsouth.net and remove the NOSPAM "Sami D." > wrote in message oups.com... > Hi, I just bought a 2001 A4 1.8T Fwd Trip with 116K miles on it a few > days ago. This morning the car started up fine (the OK! display came > on) and I drove to the end of my street where I stopped at a stop sign. > At the stop, the car turned off by its-self and wouldn't restart after > that. Here's what happens when I try to restart my car. > > 1. All the lights turn on and everything electronic works fine. > 2. The engine makes a "whiirrrrr"ing noise, but does not turn. > > I didn't think it was the battery, but I tried jump starting it > anyways. That didn't work, so its not the battery. > > I've spent a considerable time searching the forum and from the info > posted I think its the starter. > To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to > the engine crank. Someone in a previous post suggested that tapping the > starter with a hammer to see if that works. I'd like to try that but I > have no idea where the starter is and what it looks like > > Also, I'm still not 100% convinced that its the starter because that > still doesn't explain why the car died in the first place. > > So what do you guys think? Starter or something else? Any help would be > greatly appreciated. > > I'd really be grateful if someone in the area (Orlando, FL) would be > willing to stop by and help me solve this problem or if someone could > recommend a good (and relatively inexpensive!) mechanic who I can take > the car to. > > Someone in a previous post recommended Hans in altamonte springs, but > that was a year old post. Any comments or other alternatives? > > Also, I'd like to get involved with local Audi owners, I don't know > much about auto repair but I'm handy with tools and willing to learn. > If someone has any projects that they need some help on, I'd like to > help. (Or if someone would like to help/guide me though repairing my > own car!) > > Get in touch with me guys, I'm in the UCF Area. I see lots of nice > looking A4's cruising along. Where art thou? > > Please somebody come around and help me figure out what to do with my > current problem, it'd be great if somebody could bring a VAG! > |
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Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
In message .com>
"Sami D." > wrote: > Hi, I just bought a 2001 A4 1.8T Fwd Trip with 116K miles on it a few .... I guess you mean 'Tip' as in Tiptronic! [Snip] > 1. All the lights turn on and everything electronic works fine. > 2. The engine makes a "whiirrrrr"ing noise, but does not turn. Okay, so the starter is spinning, but the engine itself isn't turning over? It should be a pre-engaged starter, so won't spin until it thinks the gear is meshed with the ring gear on the flywheel. I would guess, then, that a tooth or two has stripped from the ring gear. The best thing to do is to turn the engine over slightly, by hand and then try the starter again. Since it's an auto (Tip), you won't be able to turn the engine by selecting a gear and pushing te car. The best way to turn the engine would be to get a spanner onto the nut holding the crank pulley. -- Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily') |
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Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
lol..thats funny, thanks for the idea though!
On Nov 17, 12:52 pm, "Bill" > wrote: > Don't laugh, but... Do you have a cigarette lighter low on your console? Is > the lighter in it? > My son threw his change on the area in front of his shifter, and a coin fell > into where the cigarette lighter is when he hit the brakes car died. > my2cents. > > -- > please reply to bargerw NO @ SPAM bellsouth.net and remove the NOSPAM > > "Sami D." > wrote in ooglegroups.com... > > > Hi, I just bought a 2001 A4 1.8T Fwd Trip with 116K miles on it a few > > days ago. This morning the car started up fine (the OK! display came > > on) and I drove to the end of my street where I stopped at a stop sign. > > At the stop, the car turned off by its-self and wouldn't restart after > > that. Here's what happens when I try to restart my car. > > > 1. All the lights turn on and everything electronic works fine. > > 2. The engine makes a "whiirrrrr"ing noise, but does not turn. > > > I didn't think it was the battery, but I tried jump starting it > > anyways. That didn't work, so its not the battery. > > > I've spent a considerable time searching the forum and from the info > > posted I think its the starter. > > To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to > > the engine crank. Someone in a previous post suggested that tapping the > > starter with a hammer to see if that works. I'd like to try that but I > > have no idea where the starter is and what it looks like > > > Also, I'm still not 100% convinced that its the starter because that > > still doesn't explain why the car died in the first place. > > > So what do you guys think? Starter or something else? Any help would be > > greatly appreciated. > > > I'd really be grateful if someone in the area (Orlando, FL) would be > > willing to stop by and help me solve this problem or if someone could > > recommend a good (and relatively inexpensive!) mechanic who I can take > > the car to. > > > Someone in a previous post recommended Hans in altamonte springs, but > > that was a year old post. Any comments or other alternatives? > > > Also, I'd like to get involved with local Audi owners, I don't know > > much about auto repair but I'm handy with tools and willing to learn. > > If someone has any projects that they need some help on, I'd like to > > help. (Or if someone would like to help/guide me though repairing my > > own car!) > > > Get in touch with me guys, I'm in the UCF Area. I see lots of nice > > looking A4's cruising along. Where art thou? > > > Please somebody come around and help me figure out what to do with my > > current problem, it'd be great if somebody could bring a VAG! |
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Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
Hey, thanks for the detailed reply. I want to give it a try, but
someone suggested that the timing belt might have broken (what do you guys think?) and if that has happening, actually turning the engine might cause engine damage right? Do guys think it might be a timing belt snap? Somebody else told me that its probably not the timing belt because the engine would still turn when I try to start the car. On Nov 17, 12:57 pm, Peter Bell > wrote: > In message .com> > "Sami D." > wrote: > > > Hi, I just bought a 2001 A4 1.8T Fwd Trip with 116K miles on it a few... I guess you mean 'Tip' as in Tiptronic! > > [Snip] > > > 1. All the lights turn on and everything electronic works fine. > > 2. The engine makes a "whiirrrrr"ing noise, but does not turn.Okay, so the starter is spinning, but the engine itself isn't turning > over? > > It should be a pre-engaged starter, so won't spin until it thinks the > gear is meshed with the ring gear on the flywheel. I would guess, then, > that a tooth or two has stripped from the ring gear. The best thing to > do is to turn the engine over slightly, by hand and then try the starter > again. Since it's an auto (Tip), you won't be able to turn the engine > by selecting a gear and pushing te car. The best way to turn the engine > would be to get a spanner onto the nut holding the crank pulley. > > -- > Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily') |
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Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." >
wrote: >To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to >the engine crank. Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat many valves in doing so. |
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Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
In message .com>
"Sami D." > wrote: > Do guys think it might be a timing belt snap? Somebody else told me > that its probably not the timing belt because the engine would still > turn when I try to start the car. I guess it's possible. The crank would still spin, and the pistons move up and down but, because the camshaft drive fails, there's little compression and the engine spins very easily. There would have been a rattle when it came to a stop, as valves/pistons collided. Turning the engine over slowly is unlikely to do any more damage than has already occured. -- Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily') |
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Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn, and i just bought the effing car. On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse > wrote: > On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." > > wrote: > > >To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to > >the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat many valves in > doing so. |
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Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." >
wrote: > >yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn, >and i just bought the effing car. > > >On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse > wrote: >> On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." > >> wrote: >> >> >To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to >> >the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat many valves in >> doing so. That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing all past service records. If previous service records are not available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and factor these into the final price. I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair. |
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Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:10:03 -0500, PeterD > wrote:
>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." > >wrote: > >> >>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn, >>and i just bought the effing car. >> >> >>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse > wrote: >>> On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." > >>> wrote: >>> >>> >To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to >>> >the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat many valves in >>> doing so. > > >That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent >mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing >all past service records. If previous service records are not >available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and >factor these into the final price. > >I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have >my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair. In fairness, one could have had all the advantages as listed, and still end up with a tb failure in short time. The originally recommended tb replacement interval has since been fairly well shown to be optimistic by at least 20K miles... /daytripper '00 s4 6spd |
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