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  #21  
Old July 27th 11, 07:11 PM posted to alt.autos.toyota,rec.autos.driving,alt.society.liberalism,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.fan.michael-moore
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Default Where would you cut the budget?

On 2011-07-25 22:25, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
> 1- Libraries -- close them all. Currently a shelter for the homeless.
>
> 2- Parks -- same as above.


Libraries and parks are nice, but they are the responsibility of local communities, not the
federal government.




> 3- War on Drugs -- make it legal. Save on prisons as well.


Tell it to Chairman Obama, who not only reneged on his promise to not interfere with state
medical marijuana programs, but has intensified the federal war on drugs. Stoners still think
they heard him promise to legalize weed if elected, showing how THC can cloud one's judgment.


> 4- Allow Euthanasia. Most humane way to save money.


As a member of the Church of Euthanasia, I believe suicide should be encouraged to reduce the
population. However, legalized euthanasia is likely to be abused, with those whose medical care
is costing too much being "encouraged" to kill themselves. "Suicide" is derived from root words
meaning "killing of oneself"; euthanasia is not suicide, since someone else is doing the
killing, and determining whether the subject freely consented or was pressured is impossible.



> 8- Bring doctors from Cuba. They are way cheaper.


That's because they are slaves. Though well-trained, Cuban doctors are prohibited from leaving
Cuba without permission, and when they travel abroad it is usually to places like Venezuela,
which trades oil for their services. The doctors are kept under guard, to discourage them from
attempting to defect.
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  #22  
Old July 27th 11, 07:36 PM posted to alt.autos.toyota,rec.autos.driving,alt.society.liberalism,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.fan.michael-moore
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Default Where would you cut the budget?

On Jul 27, 1:29*pm, Orval Fairbairn > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> *"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > On Jul 26, 10:25 am, Sir Ray > wrote:
> > > 1- Libraries -- close them all. Currently a shelter for the homeless.
> > > 2- Parks -- same as above.

>
> > > This is plain silly
> > > Libraries and Local parks are quite heavily used *- especially in
> > > recessions, people use libraries to research for jobs and work), and
> > > parks too (indeed, not much room for the homeless with all the usage
> > > our local parks get during the weekend and daytime). *Local libraries
> > > and parks also have nothing to do with the Federal budget, Now
> > > National Parks (which are degrading from overuse and lack of
> > > maintainance) and Mouments and HIstorical sites do - you plan to close
> > > Yellowstone or the Gettysburg Battlefield or the Statute of Liberty
> > > permantly, now?

>
> > I got a BOLD PLAN:

>
> > Let the homeless run the libraries and parks. They may do a better job
> > --way cheaper-- than those currently running the place.

>
> > Dissolve mental hospitals. Let the crazy run the place.

>
> > If it doesn't work in 6 months then we go back to square one. At least
> > we teach a lesson to those who got easy jobs.

>
> They have already tried letting the crazy run the place in California.
> It doesn't work!


I rather have the crazy than the corrupt! At least you got a chance of
something good coming out it.
  #23  
Old July 28th 11, 02:28 AM posted to alt.autos.toyota,rec.autos.driving,alt.society.liberalism,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.fan.michael-moore
Orval Fairbairn
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Default Where would you cut the budget?

In article
>,
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
> wrote:

> On Jul 27, 1:29*pm, Orval Fairbairn > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> > *"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > On Jul 26, 10:25 am, Sir Ray > wrote:
> > > > 1- Libraries -- close them all. Currently a shelter for the homeless.
> > > > 2- Parks -- same as above.

> >
> > > > This is plain silly
> > > > Libraries and Local parks are quite heavily used *- especially in
> > > > recessions, people use libraries to research for jobs and work), and
> > > > parks too (indeed, not much room for the homeless with all the usage
> > > > our local parks get during the weekend and daytime). *Local libraries
> > > > and parks also have nothing to do with the Federal budget, Now
> > > > National Parks (which are degrading from overuse and lack of
> > > > maintainance) and Mouments and HIstorical sites do - you plan to close
> > > > Yellowstone or the Gettysburg Battlefield or the Statute of Liberty
> > > > permantly, now?

> >
> > > I got a BOLD PLAN:

> >
> > > Let the homeless run the libraries and parks. They may do a better job
> > > --way cheaper-- than those currently running the place.

> >
> > > Dissolve mental hospitals. Let the crazy run the place.

> >
> > > If it doesn't work in 6 months then we go back to square one. At least
> > > we teach a lesson to those who got easy jobs.

> >
> > They have already tried letting the crazy run the place in California.
> > It doesn't work!

>
> I rather have the crazy than the corrupt! At least you got a chance of
> something good coming out it.


They are BOTH crazy and corrupt! Real estate developers are the big
power in CA and most states.
  #24  
Old July 29th 11, 03:46 PM posted to alt.autos.toyota,rec.autos.driving,alt.society.liberalism,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.fan.michael-moore
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Default Where would you cut the budget?

On Jul 27, 2:11*pm, Dänk 42Ö <dänk@nûggèt.ørg> wrote:
> On 2011-07-25 22:25, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
>
> > 1- Libraries -- close them all. Currently a shelter for the homeless.

>
> > 2- Parks -- same as above.

>
> Libraries and parks are nice, but they are the responsibility of local communities, not the
> federal government.


The Federal Government channels money to the local government so they
can put pressure on bloated corrupt bureaucracies. They are still
wasting money around here. They are building a nice cultural center in
a community that's falling apart, where you don't have space to ride a
bike. They have security guards in a mixed path where people don't
need it. The path itself must have cost millions and it only goes for
a mile.

>
> > 3- War on Drugs -- make it legal. Save on prisons as well.

>
> Tell it to Chairman Obama, who not only reneged on his promise to not interfere with state
> medical marijuana programs, but has intensified the federal war on drugs. *Stoners still think
> they heard him promise to legalize weed if elected, showing how THC can cloud one's judgment.


Do the Republicans have a Plan B? No, nobody messes with legalization
though nobody knows why it's illegal in the first place.

>
> > 4- Allow Euthanasia. Most humane way to save money.

>
> As a member of the Church of Euthanasia, I believe suicide should be encouraged to reduce the
> population. *However, legalized euthanasia is likely to be abused, with those whose medical care
> is costing too much being "encouraged" to kill themselves. *"Suicide" is derived from root words
> meaning "killing of oneself"; euthanasia is not suicide, since someone else is doing the
> killing, and determining whether the subject freely consented or was pressured is impossible.


So...? The way the system works now, old people are artificially kept
alive so they can keep milking Medicare.

>
> > 8- Bring doctors from Cuba. They are way cheaper.

>
> That's because they are slaves. *Though well-trained, Cuban doctors are prohibited from leaving
> Cuba without permission, and when they travel abroad it is usually to places like Venezuela,
> which trades oil for their services. *The doctors are kept under guard, to discourage them from
> attempting to defect.


That's true. But the effect of such threat is to let the AMA lose
much of its power on profits.

  #25  
Old July 29th 11, 04:06 PM posted to alt.autos.toyota,rec.autos.driving,alt.society.liberalism,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.fan.michael-moore
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Default Where would you cut the budget?

On Jul 27, 8:34 pm, Hachiroku > wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:31:13 -0700, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the
>
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>
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>
>
>
> Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
> > On Jul 27, 11:32 am, Conscience > wrote:
> >> On 2011-07-27 16:22:53 +0000, Hachiroku > said:

>
> >> > On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:04:41 -0400, Ed S. wrote:

>
> >> >> End the wars immediately.

>
> >> >> Cut the pentagon budget by 50%.

>
> >> > And weaken defense?

>
> >> >> Close ALL tax loopholes used by corporations.

>
> >> > GE included?

>
> >> Well, except for GE five or so $Billion.

>
> >> >> End ALL subsidies to corporations, especially oil companies, ethanol
> >> >> farmers.

>
> >> > What "subusidies" are the oil companies getting, ed? You're using
> >> > Schulz-speak again.

>
> >> Well, except for GM's $45 Billion.

>
> >> Funny how those two tie closely to Obama's war chest.

>
> > I always knew they wouldn't let Obama succeed. Now half the nation
> > will blame Obama for it.

>
> ROFLMAO! He had a Democrat Congress, and STILL couldn't accomplish
> anything! The only one failing here is himself!


Yeah, even his watered-down healthcare plan was under constant attack.
You think he had a choice to pass a clean and cheap Single Payer
Insurance like Canada?

The system is set up so nothing is changed for the better. And they
wouldn't let the "black sheep" score some big one like this...

QUESTION:

Why didn't Obama try and push for the single payer system?

ANSWER:

The single payer system is only supported by the left wing of the
democratic party so there was not a majority in the house nor 60 votes
in the senate for it. They could not even pass a public option in the
senate. Obama is more pragmatic than idealistic in his approach so he
didn't push hard for anything until he saw what could be done, and his
laid back approach nearly caused the defeat of the bill.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...4052531AAYDDFD
  #26  
Old July 29th 11, 04:14 PM posted to alt.autos.toyota,rec.autos.driving,alt.society.liberalism,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.fan.michael-moore
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Default Where would you cut the budget?

On Jul 28, 11:41*pm, Shawn Hirn > wrote:
> In article
> >,
> *"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> > wrote:
> > 1- Libraries -- close them all. Currently a shelter for the homeless.

>
> Most libraries are locally funded and provide important services to the
> communities.


I wouldn't let my child go in there together with the unwashed
homeless. It's a matter of bad habits and he may want to become a
hobo. \

Are we ever addressing the issue of the homeless... or we lost that
battle?

  #27  
Old July 29th 11, 06:27 PM posted to alt.autos.toyota,rec.autos.driving,alt.society.liberalism,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.fan.michael-moore
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Default Where would you cut the budget?

On 2011-07-29 08:46, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
> On Jul 27, 2:11 pm, Dänk 42Ö<dänk@nûggèt.ørg> wrote:
>> On 2011-07-25 22:25, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
>>> 3- War on Drugs -- make it legal. Save on prisons as well.

>>
>> Tell it to Chairman Obama, who not only reneged on his promise to not interfere with state
>> medical marijuana programs, but has intensified the federal war on drugs. Stoners still think
>> they heard him promise to legalize weed if elected, showing how THC can cloud one's judgment.

>
> Do the Republicans have a Plan B? No, nobody messes with legalization
> though nobody knows why it's illegal in the first place.


A quick search reveals that marijuana was effectively banned by the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937,
which was passed with an unrecorded voice vote in the Democrat-controlled House and Senate, and
signed into law by Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

The Act did not actually outlaw marijuana, it just required a tax stamp be purchased, and no
stamps were printed. At the time, it was believed that the Constitution did not grant the
federal government the power to outlaw drugs, so the power of direct taxation granted by the
16th Amendment was used to achieve the same effect. It should be noted that the left loves the
16th Amendment, as it allowed the federal government to expand it size and power beyond anything
the Founders intended or conceived.

Though many blame the war on drugs on conservatives (and Nixon did start the war and Reagan did
expand it), the tendency towards prohibition started with liberal socialists, Methodists in
particular. At the time, alcohol was associated with backwards cultures, like Irish Catholics,
who were seen as standing in the way of the socialists' progressive utopia. Today, left-wing
Methodists continue their tradition in meddling in other people's lives with their support for
stricter anti-tobacco regulations. For some reason, left-wing atheists do not object with this
particular example of a religion meddling in politics.



>>> 4- Allow Euthanasia. Most humane way to save money.

>>
>> As a member of the Church of Euthanasia, I believe suicide should be encouraged to reduce the
>> population. However, legalized euthanasia is likely to be abused, with those whose medical care
>> is costing too much being "encouraged" to kill themselves. "Suicide" is derived from root words
>> meaning "killing of oneself"; euthanasia is not suicide, since someone else is doing the
>> killing, and determining whether the subject freely consented or was pressured is impossible.

>
> So...? The way the system works now, old people are artificially kept
> alive so they can keep milking Medicare.


Whether the old people milking Medicare are kept alive or turned into Soylent Green depends on
which political party they tend to vote for.

  #28  
Old July 31st 11, 07:26 PM posted to alt.autos.toyota,rec.autos.driving,alt.society.liberalism,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.fan.michael-moore
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Default Where would you cut the budget?

On Jul 25, 9:25*pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Philosopher" > wrote:

> But I'm sure you have some brilliant ideas of your own. My wisdom is
> not infinite.


Don't build sports stadiums. Los Angeles is planning a large one, and
my community is planning a small one.

--
Ron
  #29  
Old August 1st 11, 05:30 AM posted to alt.autos.toyota,rec.autos.driving,alt.society.liberalism,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.fan.michael-moore
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Default Where would you cut the budget?

In article
>,
Ron Peterson > wrote:

> On Jul 25, 9:25*pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> Philosopher" > wrote:
>
> > But I'm sure you have some brilliant ideas of your own. My wisdom is
> > not infinite.

>
> Don't build sports stadiums. Los Angeles is planning a large one, and
> my community is planning a small one.
>
> --
> Ron


Sports stadia are huge losers. I am not aware of any that have been
anything but a financial drain on their communities. They are a con job
by wealthy sports team owners to extract money from cities and counties
-- all in the name of "team support."
  #30  
Old August 2nd 11, 02:52 PM posted to alt.autos.toyota,rec.autos.driving,alt.society.liberalism,alt.fan.noam-chomsky,alt.fan.michael-moore
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On Jul 29, 1:27*pm, Dänk 42Ø <dänk@nugget.örg> wrote:
> On 2011-07-29 08:46, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
>
> > On Jul 27, 2:11 pm, Dänk 42Ö<dänk@nûggèt.ørg> *wrote:
> >> On 2011-07-25 22:25, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
> >>> 3- War on Drugs -- make it legal. Save on prisons as well.

>
> >> Tell it to Chairman Obama, who not only reneged on his promise to not interfere with state
> >> medical marijuana programs, but has intensified the federal war on drugs. *Stoners still think
> >> they heard him promise to legalize weed if elected, showing how THC can cloud one's judgment.

>
> > Do the Republicans have a Plan B? No, nobody messes with legalization
> > though nobody knows why it's illegal in the first place.

>
> A quick search reveals that marijuana was effectively banned by the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937,
> which was passed with an unrecorded voice vote in the Democrat-controlled House and Senate, and
> signed into law by Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt.
>
> The Act did not actually outlaw marijuana, it just required a tax stamp be purchased, and no
> stamps were printed. *At the time, it was believed that the Constitution did not grant the
> federal government the power to outlaw drugs, so the power of direct taxation granted by the
> 16th Amendment was used to achieve the same effect. *It should be noted that the left loves the
> 16th Amendment, as it allowed the federal government to expand it size and power beyond anything
> the Founders intended or conceived.
>
> Though many blame the war on drugs on conservatives (and Nixon did start the war and Reagan did
> expand it), the tendency towards prohibition started with liberal socialists, Methodists in
> particular. *At the time, alcohol was associated with backwards cultures, like Irish Catholics,
> who were seen as standing in the way of the socialists' progressive utopia. *Today, left-wing
> Methodists continue their tradition in meddling in other people's lives with their support for
> stricter anti-tobacco regulations. *For some reason, left-wing atheists do not object with this
> particular example of a religion meddling in politics.


And I thought it was the Religious Right to be meddling with drugs.

The question is, WHO WANTS TO LOOK GOOD WHILE COMMITTING SIN?

>
> >>> 4- Allow Euthanasia. Most humane way to save money.

>
> >> As a member of the Church of Euthanasia, I believe suicide should be encouraged to reduce the
> >> population. *However, legalized euthanasia is likely to be abused, with those whose medical care
> >> is costing too much being "encouraged" to kill themselves. *"Suicide" is derived from root words
> >> meaning "killing of oneself"; euthanasia is not suicide, since someone else is doing the
> >> killing, and determining whether the subject freely consented or was pressured is impossible.

>
> > So...? The way the system works now, old people are artificially kept
> > alive so they can keep milking Medicare.

>
> Whether the old people milking Medicare are kept alive or turned into Soylent Green depends on
> which political party they tend to vote for.


That's very true! They are cannon fodder for the electoral machine or
else they rot in homes. I rather commit Euthanasia first!
 




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