Downshifting

Grant Edwards > writes:

> On 2006-11-03, Alan Baker > wrote:
>
> >>>> I sometimes practice up/down shifting without the clutch. Now
> >>>> that's pretty much a useless skill, but it's sort of fun.
> >>>
> >>> You'll not think it useless if/when the clutch slave cup goes away on
> >>> you 50 miles from the middle of nowhere... Being able to get it home
> >>> without needing the clutch is a *MAJOR* Good Thing <TM> that a whole
> >>> bunch of people who drive sticks never learn to do.
> >>
> >> How do you handle stopping and starting?
> >
> > When you stop the car, you stall it. When you want to move again, you
> > can put the car in first gear, turn the key, and the car will start and
> > begin to move all together.
>
> That sounds nerve-wracking.
>
> I thought maybe you had to get everybody out and push like in
> "Little Miss Sunshine" (a movie involving a trip in an old VW
> bus with a broken clutch).
>
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Or just get AAA and a cell phone

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Don Bruder wrote:

> I wasn't going to, but the voices in my head toed me that if I didn't,
> my sole would be in danger.


I would try to step this conversation up, but it is clear to me that I
have been defeeted....

Pat

In article >,
Grant Edwards > wrote:

> On 2006-11-03, Alan Baker > wrote:
>
> >>>> I sometimes practice up/down shifting without the clutch. Now
> >>>> that's pretty much a useless skill, but it's sort of fun.
> >>>
> >>> You'll not think it useless if/when the clutch slave cup goes away on
> >>> you 50 miles from the middle of nowhere... Being able to get it home
> >>> without needing the clutch is a *MAJOR* Good Thing <TM> that a whole
> >>> bunch of people who drive sticks never learn to do.
> >>
> >> How do you handle stopping and starting?
> >
> > When you stop the car, you stall it. When you want to move again, you
> > can put the car in first gear, turn the key, and the car will start and
> > begin to move all together.
>
> That sounds nerve-wracking.
>
> I thought maybe you had to get everybody out and push like in
> "Little Miss Sunshine" (a movie involving a trip in an old VW
> bus with a broken clutch).

I know it sounds bad, but in truth it works with remarkably little
drama. Give it a try sometime.

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IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)

CR wrote:
> Downshifting: yes or no?
> Double-clutching: necessary or not?
> Comments and suggestions welcome...
>
> Since there are fewer 5/6-speed manual transmission autos sold in the
> U.S. these days, perhaps it is a lost skill?

Well, 95% of cars here in the UK are manual (only old boring company
execs drive automatics), so I feel qualified to comment.

Downshifting - yes, you need to keep the engine in a rev range it's
happy with.

Double-declutching - on an MX-5, just for show. Sometimes it helps when
getting from 2nd to 1st when the box is cold. Makes a good noise
though, when you do it right.

In article >,
pws > wrote:

> Don Bruder wrote:
>
> > I wasn't going to, but the voices in my head toed me that if I didn't,
> > my sole would be in danger.
>
>
> I would try to step this conversation up, but it is clear to me that I
> have been defeeted....
>
> Pat

Try coming at it from another ankle... You're bound toenail it.

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Don Bruder wrote:
> In article >,
> pws > wrote:
>
>> Don Bruder wrote:
>>
>>> I wasn't going to, but the voices in my head toed me that if I didn't,
>>> my sole would be in danger.
>>
>> I would try to step this conversation up, but it is clear to me that I
>> have been defeeted....
>>
>> Pat
>
> Try coming at it from another ankle... You're bound toenail it.
>


I'll give a try, I am just afraid that someone is going to sock it to us
if we don't stop.....

Pat

In article >,
pws > wrote:

> Don Bruder wrote:
> > In article >,
> > pws > wrote:
> >
> >> Don Bruder wrote:
> >>
> >>> I wasn't going to, but the voices in my head toed me that if I didn't,
> >>> my sole would be in danger.
> >>
> >> I would try to step this conversation up, but it is clear to me that I
> >> have been defeeted....
> >>
> >> Pat
> >
> > Try coming at it from another ankle... You're bound toenail it.
> >
>
>
> I'll give a try, I am just afraid that someone is going to sock it to us
> if we don't stop.....
>
> Pat

Just shoe 'em the door. But tread lightly so you don't make 'em mad
enough to lace you out...

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"pws" > wrote in message
...
> Don Bruder wrote:
>> In article >,
>> pws > wrote:
>>
>>> Don Bruder wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wasn't going to, but the voices in my head toed me that if I didn't,
>>>> my sole would be in danger.
>>>
>>> I would try to step this conversation up, but it is clear to me that I
>>> have been defeeted....
>>>
>>> Pat
>>
>> Try coming at it from another ankle... You're bound toenail it.
>>
>
>
> I'll give a try, I am just afraid that someone is going to sock it to us
> if we don't stop.....
>
> Pat

You guys just might get booted... ;-)

In article >,
pws > wrote:

> > I wasn't going to, but the voices in my head toed me that if I didn't,
> > my sole would be in danger.
>
>
> I would try to step this conversation up, but it is clear to me that I
> have been defeeted....

By your arch rival? Perhaps you should approach it from a different
ankle.

--
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'94C, St. Louis
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On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:01:08 +0000, CR wrote:

> Downshifting: yes or no?

I love getting a downshift just right. Say you have a hill coming up and
you want to go from fifth to fourth, you give the throttle a little nudge
and you're doing exactly the same speed, only at higher revs. It's one of
those satisfying little things that never fails to put a smile on my face.

I've been trying to do the heel-and-toe thing, but I think my feet are the
wrong size for the pedals.

> Double-clutching: necessary or not?

No.

> Comments and suggestions welcome...
>
> Since there are fewer 5/6-speed manual transmission autos sold in the
> U.S. these days, perhaps it is a lost skill?

I read that in Europe it's 80/20 in favor of standards, and 20/80 here. I
don't understand why this is.