Hemi Challenger

"Les Benn" > wrote in
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> "daytripper" > wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:24:21 -0700, "Les Benn" > wrote:
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>>>have you guys been checking out the new Challenger? I definitely am
>>>really thinking hard about getting one.
>>
>> I saw one - briefly - a couple of days ago on a customer test drive
>> loop. It was bright red and gorgeous, and was hauling butt on the
>> highway. Sounded awesome...
>>
>> /daytripper
>> '05 hemi durango ltd
> The Mustang Guys are having kittens worried about having a car that
> will blow the doors off the Shelby GT500 Mustang.

This remains to be seen. And some still don't believe the Challenger will
see production, but I hope they're wrong. Bottom line, the Challenger
isn't competing with the GT500.

> I love competition!!
> There goes GM with the new Camaro last to market and butt ugly too.

I'll give you that.

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:20:03 GMT, Joe > wrote:

>"Les Benn" > wrote in
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>> "daytripper" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:24:21 -0700, "Les Benn" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>have you guys been checking out the new Challenger? I definitely am
>>>>really thinking hard about getting one.
>>>
>>> I saw one - briefly - a couple of days ago on a customer test drive
>>> loop. It was bright red and gorgeous, and was hauling butt on the
>>> highway. Sounded awesome...
>>>
>>> /daytripper
>>> '05 hemi durango ltd
>> The Mustang Guys are having kittens worried about having a car that
>> will blow the doors off the Shelby GT500 Mustang.
>
>This remains to be seen. And some still don't believe the Challenger will
>see production, but I hope they're wrong. Bottom line, the Challenger
>isn't competing with the GT500.
>
>> I love competition!!
>> There goes GM with the new Camaro last to market and butt ugly too.
>
>I'll give you that.

Doh! I totally spaced on this thread - what I saw was a bright red Hemi
Charger, not a Challenger.

But doesn't the Challenger look remarkably like the old Barracuda?

/daytripper
'05 hemi durango

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:55:18 -0400, daytripper
> wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:20:03 GMT, Joe > wrote:
>
>>"Les Benn" > wrote in
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>>>
>>> "daytripper" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:24:21 -0700, "Les Benn" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>have you guys been checking out the new Challenger? I definitely am
>>>>>really thinking hard about getting one.
>>>>
>>>> I saw one - briefly - a couple of days ago on a customer test drive
>>>> loop. It was bright red and gorgeous, and was hauling butt on the
>>>> highway. Sounded awesome...
>>>>
>>>> /daytripper
>>>> '05 hemi durango ltd
>>> The Mustang Guys are having kittens worried about having a car that
>>> will blow the doors off the Shelby GT500 Mustang.
>>
>>This remains to be seen. And some still don't believe the Challenger will
>>see production, but I hope they're wrong. Bottom line, the Challenger
>>isn't competing with the GT500.
>>
>>> I love competition!!
>>> There goes GM with the new Camaro last to market and butt ugly too.
>>
>>I'll give you that.
>
>Doh! I totally spaced on this thread - what I saw was a bright red Hemi
>Charger, not a Challenger.
>
>But doesn't the Challenger look remarkably like the old Barracuda?
>
>/daytripper
>'05 hemi durango
So did the original challenger. It was a bit longer than the Cuda if I
rember correctly. They would have likely made the new car a 'Cuda if
they hadn't killed Plymouth.

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On Sep 26, 6:55 pm, daytripper > wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:20:03 GMT, Joe > wrote:

> But doesn't the Challenger look remarkably like the old Barracuda?

Not at all.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN

Patrick

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:12:10 -0700, wrote:

>On Sep 26, 6:55 pm, daytripper > wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:20:03 GMT, Joe > wrote:
>
>> But doesn't the Challenger look remarkably like the old Barracuda?
>
>Not at all.
>
>http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN
>
>Patrick

Well, duh - so you managed to find a first gen model - the one model that
decidedly has no resemblance to the Challenger concept car.

I was referring to the E platform models from the early '70s.
Like this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1...racuda_340.jpg

Compared to the more angular Challenger sheet metal on the same platform...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...llenger_RT.jpg

....I think the new Challenger looks more like the 'Cuda, with the exception
being the "grill", which is clearly modeled from the old Challenger nose...

/daytripper
'05 hemi durango

On Sep 26, 9:33 pm, daytripper > wrote:

> >> But doesn't the Challenger look remarkably like the old Barracuda?

> >Not at all.

> >http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...nswers.com/mai...

> Well, duh - so you managed to find a first gen model - the one model that
> decidedly has no resemblance to the Challenger concept car.

Well, sorry, when I think _old_ Barracuda, I naturally think first
gen. And because I like them better. I like their quirky styling and
trim size/weight. With a 340 mill, they're awesome little street
machines.

Patrick

wrote:
> On Sep 26, 9:33 pm, daytripper > wrote:
>
>>>> But doesn't the Challenger look remarkably like the old Barracuda?
>
>>> Not at all.
>
>>> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...nswers.com/mai...
>
>> Well, duh - so you managed to find a first gen model - the one model that
>> decidedly has no resemblance to the Challenger concept car.
>
> Well, sorry, when I think _old_ Barracuda, I naturally think first
> gen. And because I like them better. I like their quirky styling and
> trim size/weight. With a 340 mill, they're awesome little street
> machines.
>
> Patrick
>

Quirky, is that what you call it? Cute... P

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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:12:10 -0700, wrote:

>On Sep 26, 6:55 pm, daytripper > wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:20:03 GMT, Joe > wrote:
>
>> But doesn't the Challenger look remarkably like the old Barracuda?
>
>Not at all.
>
>http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN
>
>Patrick
>
>
>

Not THAT old. Look at a 1972-1974

>


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Joe wrote:
> "Les Benn" > wrote in
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>
>> "daytripper" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:24:21 -0700, "Les Benn" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> have you guys been checking out the new Challenger? I definitely am
>>>> really thinking hard about getting one.
>>> I saw one - briefly - a couple of days ago on a customer test drive
>>> loop. It was bright red and gorgeous, and was hauling butt on the
>>> highway. Sounded awesome...
>>>
>>> /daytripper
>>> '05 hemi durango ltd
>> The Mustang Guys are having kittens worried about having a car that
>> will blow the doors off the Shelby GT500 Mustang.
>
> This remains to be seen. And some still don't believe the Challenger will
> see production, but I hope they're wrong. Bottom line, the Challenger
> isn't competing with the GT500.

I'm not at all worried about a N/A Charger/Challenger blowing the doors
off of a GT500. That engine in the GT500 is just a $25 blower pulley
away from 600+ hp. Then if that isn't enough there is always the option
of a Kenne Bell twin screw blower that will get you 800+ hp. Chrysler
doesn't have a Hemi in anything they sell currently, or planned, that
has a snowball's chance in hell of overpowering a blown 5.4L, 32-valve
V-8 of the type that is in the GT500. It is basically the Ford GT
engine with an iron block and a Roots blower instead of a twinscrew. I
will say that Ford definitely knows how to build a supercharged V-8 that
is extremely reliable and can put out some outrageous horsepower numbers
with a few inexpensive tweaks and without even removing the valve covers.

>> I love competition!!
>> There goes GM with the new Camaro last to market and butt ugly too.
>
> I'll give you that.

"Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
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> Joe wrote:
>> "Les Benn" > wrote in
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>>> "daytripper" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:24:21 -0700, "Les Benn" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> have you guys been checking out the new Challenger? I definitely am
>>>>> really thinking hard about getting one.
>>>> I saw one - briefly - a couple of days ago on a customer test drive
>>>> loop. It was bright red and gorgeous, and was hauling butt on the
>>>> highway. Sounded awesome...
>>>>
>>>> /daytripper
>>>> '05 hemi durango ltd
>>> The Mustang Guys are having kittens worried about having a car that
>>> will blow the doors off the Shelby GT500 Mustang.
>>
>> This remains to be seen. And some still don't believe the Challenger
>> will see production, but I hope they're wrong. Bottom line, the
>> Challenger isn't competing with the GT500.
>
> I'm not at all worried about a N/A Charger/Challenger blowing the doors
> off of a GT500. That engine in the GT500 is just a $25 blower pulley away
> from 600+ hp. Then if that isn't enough there is always the option of a
> Kenne Bell twin screw blower that will get you 800+ hp. Chrysler doesn't
> have a Hemi in anything they sell currently, or planned, that has a
> snowball's chance in hell of overpowering a blown 5.4L, 32-valve V-8 of
> the type that is in the GT500. It is basically the Ford GT engine with an
> iron block and a Roots blower instead of a twinscrew. I will say that
> Ford definitely knows how to build a supercharged V-8 that is extremely
> reliable and can put out some outrageous horsepower numbers with a few
> inexpensive tweaks and without even removing the valve covers.
>
>>> I love competition!!
>>> There goes GM with the new Camaro last to market and butt ugly too.
>>
>> I'll give you that.
lol a measly 5.4L Ford engine (probably out of a lawnboy mower) even with a
blower will be a dog compared to a Hemi Challenger with the new 6.1L Hemi
Challenger and besides Ford can only build about 30 of the GT500 Shelbys a
year. Dodge will eat them for lunch in sales. How many guys/gals do you know
that are willing to buy a GT500 for 22K dealer markup over the 47K sticker?
Mustang is all decoration. Dodge will rule again with the Hemi.Well at least
There will be lots of mustangs on Dodge used car lots in 2008.