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Accord coupe - washer fluid container
"Elle" > wrote in message ...
> "Pszemol" > wrote >> Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light >> on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL >> bottle >> when the warning ligth comes on to minimalise required >> mainenance. > > I personally am finding much of the "fancy" electronics to > be more trouble than they're worth. > > I am on an extended visit in a house with a heat pump with > too many electronics to it. Four visits so far from the > repair technician in one year. Contrast this with my own > house's furnace: Four years and no problems whatsoever. > > Same deal with newer cars. So much of the electronics are > bells and whistles or break too often. Yes, but taking your argument you should use abacus instead of your computer to do all the calculations ;-) I generally agree with you that fancy electronics add components to the system, and in consequence we have more components, and bigger probability for a system failure due to the single component failure... But in the case of the low fluid warning lamps it is no issue, because if the warning system fails you will not have anything worse than a system without warning system. So if you have to choose a system with no warning light and a system with a warning light which might get wrong some day I would take the "risk" of having this convenience. To be honest I am going to find this sender unit on some Canadian autoparts site and outfit it in my USA version :-) I hope necessary harness is there to give the signal to the light on the dashboard... If successful I promisse to come back here and describe this mod for anybody wanting to do the same. |
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Accord coupe - washer fluid container
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:49:24 -0600, "Pszemol" >
wrote: >For the second time I needed to refil washer fluid in >my 2004 accord coupe. I got the 1 gallon jug from the >store when the washer nozzles stopped delivering fluid. >Poured the bottle but before the bottle was empty >the container in the car was full and overflowing. >2-3 inches of the fluid left unused in the bottle. > >Is this what you get? Or my pump is not sucking all >the fluid from the container? > >Why would you design a car with a washer fluid >container just smaller than the widely available >container the fluid is sold in the stores? > >Would you consider it as a bad design? That's a really, really bad idea to let the fluid nearly run out before refilling. I never let mine get more than a couple of inches low. If you are ever driving on a dark road late at night in the middle of nowhere, with 18-wheelers spraying you with dirty water, you will understand why. If you never leave the city perhaps you can get away with it. Normally, with 3,000 mile service, Honda refills mine and I seldom have to worry about it unless we have a lot of snow and/or rain. Worrying about how much the washer fluid container held would be about number 689 on my list of things to be concerned about. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Accord coupe - washer fluid container
On Jan 17, 11:49*am, "Pszemol" > wrote:
> For the second time I needed to refil washer fluid in > my 2004 accord coupe. I got the 1 gallon jug from the > store when the washer nozzles stopped delivering fluid. > Poured the bottle but before the bottle was empty > the container in the car was full and overflowing. > 2-3 inches of the fluid left unused in the bottle. > > Is this what you get? Or my pump is not sucking all > the fluid from the container? > > Why would you design a car with a washer fluid > container just smaller than the widely available > container the fluid is sold in the stores? > > Would you consider it as a bad design? The store where I get my ww fluid is now selling it in a "Super Value" 160 oz size which is 5 quarts. My wifes van holds a whole gallon but now she has a quart leftover so I jump up and down and yell "In your face Be-otch"! That leftover quart hurts like hell after it's been hurled across the garage. |
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Accord coupe - washer fluid container
"Robert Barr" > wrote in message . net... > Maybe it's >> because I'm in Canada (the frozen white north and all), or maybe the >> design of the '04 required a smaller reservoir. > Yeah, and you guys (and girls) get the heated mirrors. We don't. Even my > old '85 Scirocco had heated mirrors, but not this new Civic. Grr.... Yeah, this is my first experience with heated mirrors, and they're a lot more useful than I first thought... even without ice or snow they clear off condensation nicely |
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Accord coupe - washer fluid container
"Pszemol" > wrote
> To be honest I am going to find this sender unit on some > Canadian autoparts site and outfit it in my USA version > :-) > I hope necessary harness is there to give the signal to > the light on the dashboard... If successful I promisse > to come back here and describe this mod for anybody > wanting to do the same. No thanks. I can tell a non-engineer, non-technician when I see him. |
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Accord coupe - washer fluid container
Pszemol wrote:
> "JM" > wrote in message > ... >> "Pszemol" > wrote in message >> ... >>> I can see you are an old fashioned guy who likes to spend time >>> with his car and keep the garage full of funny bottles... :-) >>> Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light >>> on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL bottle >>> when the warning ligth comes on to minimalise required mainenance. >>> The only warning I get from my accord is that the stream of >>> water is weaker, but then I have 2-3 more attempts and it is dry. >>> Even then it does not hold the full bottle, which is sad... :-) >> >> My '01 coupe has a warning light, and when it comes on I can put an >> entire jug of washer fluid in and still have room left for more... >> Maybe it's because I'm in Canada (the frozen white north and all), or >> maybe the design of the '04 required a smaller reservoir. > > In my user manual there is a note about warning light for > Canadian models, even for 2004. I think I will look around > for a Canadian version of the washer reservoid then :-)) Suit yourself, but you're greatly overreacting here IMHO. |
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Accord coupe - washer fluid container
loewent via CarKB.com wrote:
> my 2008 civic LX (canadian version) has heated mirrors and a washer jug that > accomodates 4L (just over 1 gallon) no problem. The Owner's Manual for my 2003 Accord Sedan lists the windshield washer reservoir's capacity as 2.5l for the US model and 4.5l for the Canadian model. Does anyone know if the Canadian reservoir would fit a US model? |
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Accord coupe - washer fluid container
Pszemol wrote:
> "Bob Jones" > wrote in message > ... >> Not really, you can use the extra to clean your windows. > > I would prefer to have a choice: pour whole bottle > or leave couple of drops on the bottom for cleaning. > > I know it is a small think, really a detail, but > it is showing that Honda does not care about details. Absolutely not - you're making a mountain out of a molehill here. Just because the windshield washer reservoir doesn't hold a full gallon doesn't make it a design flaw or reflect that Honda doesn't care about details. Give it a rest, please, OK? |
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Accord coupe - washer fluid container
"Pszemol" > wrote in message
... > > But in the case of the low fluid warning lamps it is no > issue, because if the warning system fails you will not > have anything worse than a system without warning system. > So if you have to choose a system with no warning light > and a system with a warning light which might get wrong > some day I would take the "risk" of having this convenience. Yes. So much better to depend on a possibly malfunctioning warning lamp when checking it manually would be such a bother. Now, once you've made the modification, you will assume it has ample fluid. Then, just when you need it most (windshield covered with crud from a truck) you will go to use the washer fluid and then discover it is empty because no one bothered to lift the hood and look. Yes, "a system with a warning light which might get wrong some day" is definitely an improvement! |
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Accord coupe - washer fluid container
"Tony Harding" > wrote in message ...
> Pszemol wrote: >> "JM" > wrote in message >> ... >>> "Pszemol" > wrote in message >>> ... >>>> I can see you are an old fashioned guy who likes to spend time >>>> with his car and keep the garage full of funny bottles... :-) >>>> Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light >>>> on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL bottle >>>> when the warning ligth comes on to minimalise required mainenance. >>>> The only warning I get from my accord is that the stream of >>>> water is weaker, but then I have 2-3 more attempts and it is dry. >>>> Even then it does not hold the full bottle, which is sad... :-) >>> >>> My '01 coupe has a warning light, and when it comes on I can put an >>> entire jug of washer fluid in and still have room left for more... >>> Maybe it's because I'm in Canada (the frozen white north and all), or >>> maybe the design of the '04 required a smaller reservoir. >> >> In my user manual there is a note about warning light for >> Canadian models, even for 2004. I think I will look around >> for a Canadian version of the washer reservoid then :-)) > > Suit yourself, but you're greatly overreacting here IMHO. I like to play with stuff like this - I am an engineer :-) |
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