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Old April 27th 11, 07:50 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
Aldorus
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I have a Saturn Ion 2007 with the standard key. You know the type:
half metal - half rubber/plastic at the head. This is the second
time the head is breaking apart and I dont want to lose it when it
falls off my keychain so I am curious if theres a place I can go to
have the key made - ALL METAL

The dealership says they can only make standard keys - half metal,
plastic head
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Old April 30th 11, 01:58 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
Oppie[_7_]
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Did you check with a locksmith? I'm not talking about the keys you get
duplicated at the hardware store. A dealer will only sell you what the
factory offers. Not very much independent thinking...

"Aldorus" > wrote in message
...
> I have a Saturn Ion 2007 with the standard key. You know the type:
> half metal - half rubber/plastic at the head. This is the second
> time the head is breaking apart and I dont want to lose it when it
> falls off my keychain so I am curious if theres a place I can go to
> have the key made - ALL METAL
>
> The dealership says they can only make standard keys - half metal,
> plastic head
>

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Old May 8th 11, 09:14 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
Ned Flanders[_2_]
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Aldorus wrote:
> I have a Saturn Ion 2007 with the standard key. You know the type:
> half metal - half rubber/plastic at the head. This is the second
> time the head is breaking apart and I dont want to lose it when it
> falls off my keychain so I am curious if theres a place I can go to
> have the key made - ALL METAL
>
> The dealership says they can only make standard keys - half metal,
> plastic head


My son had an all metal key cut for his 2001 SL1 at the local Canadian
Tire...

I am not sure who made the blank, but obviously they are available for
those Saturn's that don't have the chip in the key.
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Old May 9th 11, 02:27 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
Oppie[_7_]
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The guy who owns a repair shop next door to my office comes to see me about
'specials' since I'm an electrical engineer. His daughter's GM car had a key
with a 'chip' in it. the chip turned out to be a simple resistor and there
are four (iirc) resistances that are commonly used. Problem was that the
contacts that engaged the key's resistor were damaged. Replacing the entire
lock cylinder/ignition switch would require removing the dash panel - about
a half day's work. Only problem was the circuit to the key's resistor so we
decided to cut those wires and splice in a separate resistor under the dash.
This reduced the security somewhat but was a 15 minute fix as opposed to a
half day. Can use a generic key now...

"Ned Flanders" > wrote in message
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> Aldorus wrote:
>> I have a Saturn Ion 2007 with the standard key. You know the type:
>> half metal - half rubber/plastic at the head. This is the second
>> time the head is breaking apart and I dont want to lose it when it
>> falls off my keychain so I am curious if theres a place I can go to
>> have the key made - ALL METAL
>>
>> The dealership says they can only make standard keys - half metal,
>> plastic head

>
> My son had an all metal key cut for his 2001 SL1 at the local Canadian
> Tire...
>
> I am not sure who made the blank, but obviously they are available for
> those Saturn's that don't have the chip in the key.
>

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Old May 9th 11, 02:46 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
Bert Hyman
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In Aldorus
> wrote:

> I have a Saturn Ion 2007 with the standard key. You know the type:
> half metal - half rubber/plastic at the head. This is the second
> time the head is breaking apart and I dont want to lose it when it
> falls off my keychain so I am curious if theres a place I can go to
> have the key made - ALL METAL


Does your Ion have some sort of active security device built into the
plastic key head?

If not, you can get your key duplicated at any hardware store; I have an
all-metal key for my wife's '02 SL2.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN
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Old May 9th 11, 09:42 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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Thanks, Oppie.

You don't have a magic cure for my daughter's 2008 Dodge Caliber's
annoying horn-chirp on locking the doors ..
Following the exact procedure in the owners manual - doesn't work -
a google search reveals the same issue on many 2007-08 Calibers ....
... some work .. some don't. Duh !
.. just a shot. asking here in the Saturn group.
John T.



On Mon, 9 May 2011 09:27:51 -0400, "Oppie" > wrote:

>The guy who owns a repair shop next door to my office comes to see me about
>'specials' since I'm an electrical engineer. His daughter's GM car had a key
>with a 'chip' in it. the chip turned out to be a simple resistor and there
>are four (iirc) resistances that are commonly used. Problem was that the
>contacts that engaged the key's resistor were damaged. Replacing the entire
>lock cylinder/ignition switch would require removing the dash panel - about
>a half day's work. Only problem was the circuit to the key's resistor so we
>decided to cut those wires and splice in a separate resistor under the dash.
>This reduced the security somewhat but was a 15 minute fix as opposed to a
>half day. Can use a generic key now...
>
>"Ned Flanders" > wrote in message
...
>> Aldorus wrote:
>>> I have a Saturn Ion 2007 with the standard key. You know the type:
>>> half metal - half rubber/plastic at the head. This is the second
>>> time the head is breaking apart and I dont want to lose it when it
>>> falls off my keychain so I am curious if theres a place I can go to
>>> have the key made - ALL METAL
>>>
>>> The dealership says they can only make standard keys - half metal,
>>> plastic head

>>
>> My son had an all metal key cut for his 2001 SL1 at the local Canadian
>> Tire...
>>
>> I am not sure who made the blank, but obviously they are available for
>> those Saturn's that don't have the chip in the key.
>>


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Old May 10th 11, 04:29 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
Oppie[_7_]
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Sorry, not a clue on that one.
Recommend you check the Dodge forums and also look up any Technical Service
Bulletins (TSBs) that might apply. Might be a different software level that
is in the BCM that controls these things. If that's the case, you may be
stuck going to have a dealer update it. Do your homework first though.
Oppie



> wrote in message
...
>
> Thanks, Oppie.
>
> You don't have a magic cure for my daughter's 2008 Dodge Caliber's
> annoying horn-chirp on locking the doors ..
> Following the exact procedure in the owners manual - doesn't work -
> a google search reveals the same issue on many 2007-08 Calibers ....
> .. some work .. some don't. Duh !
> .. just a shot. asking here in the Saturn group.
> John T.



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Old May 10th 11, 09:21 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
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Default All Metal Key


Yep - thanks for the reply.
It was the Dodge forums that said certain vehicles had to have it done
at the dealer ... no explanation, though. They suggested that the
dealer would do it for free - during some other service job.
.. it's the dumbest annoying thing - to have a horn-chirp - every
time - when locking the doors ! Our Taurus chirps on pressing
the door-lock button a second time - that isn't necessary very often.
John T.




>Sorry, not a clue on that one.
>Recommend you check the Dodge forums and also look up any Technical Service
>Bulletins (TSBs) that might apply. Might be a different software level that
>is in the BCM that controls these things. If that's the case, you may be
>stuck going to have a dealer update it. Do your homework first though.
> Oppie
>
>
>
> wrote in message
.. .
>>
>> Thanks, Oppie.
>>
>> You don't have a magic cure for my daughter's 2008 Dodge Caliber's
>> annoying horn-chirp on locking the doors ..
>> Following the exact procedure in the owners manual - doesn't work -
>> a google search reveals the same issue on many 2007-08 Calibers ....
>> .. some work .. some don't. Duh !
>> .. just a shot. asking here in the Saturn group.
>> John T.

>


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Old May 25th 11, 07:59 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.saturn
Aldorus
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Default All Metal Key

I had 3 sets made at the local hardware shop. The store owner looked
at my Saturn key and pulled out 3 blanks and had them cut in about
3 minutes.

Verses the 30 minutes wait at the dealership for one key.
Amazing!!!

On Sun, 08 May 2011 13:14:04 -0700, Ned Flanders wrote:

> Aldorus wrote:
>> I have a Saturn Ion 2007 with the standard key. You know the type: half
>> metal - half rubber/plastic at the head. This is the second time the
>> head is breaking apart and I dont want to lose it when it falls off my
>> keychain so I am curious if theres a place I can go to have the key
>> made - ALL METAL
>>
>> The dealership says they can only make standard keys - half metal,
>> plastic head

>
> My son had an all metal key cut for his 2001 SL1 at the local Canadian
> Tire...
>
> I am not sure who made the blank, but obviously they are available for
> those Saturn's that don't have the chip in the key.


 




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