The 10 least safe cars of all time

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>>>>"Kevin Bottorff" wrote
>>>> yea I am real worried your little rantings will brand me a "Great
>>>> big
>>>> fat liar" I am all tore up over your little smear campaign. Tear!
>>>> NOT KB
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well I didn't know you were fat, but that makes more sense in
>>> explaining why you're such a liar. Fat people generally have
>>> self-esteem issues which makes them more likely to get jealous when
>>> other people get something good that they didn't get.
>>>
>>> Econo-cars
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>> woooo I am mortally wounded now. your wit is so sharp I can hardly
>> stand
>> it. your stupidity bores me now. ba by now. KB
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> I don't bore you, I point you out as being the liar that you are, and
> that's why you're running with your tail between your legs.
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> Econo-cars
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you just keep thinking that Mr ego!!!! KB

"Steve W." > wrote in message
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> Econo-cars wrote:
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>>> econo_cars wrote:
>>>> "Steve W." wrote
>>>>> Well the engines and drive train were basically from the Ford Escort
>>>>> sold in Europe at the time. Front suspension was pieced together from
>>>>> Maverick and Falcon parts. Interior and body were Pinto/Bobcat only.
>>>>>
>>>> Exterior and Interior of Pinto and Bobcat had differences.
>>>>
>>>> Econo-cars
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>>>>
>>> Nothing that wasn't purely cosmetic. You can take a Pinto door and bolt
>>> it right in place of a Bobcat door, Same with the glass, engine, trans,
>>> front suspension, rear suspension, hood, bumpers, header panels and
>>> everything else.
>>>
>>> Want the Bobcat grill, just change the header panel on your pinto. Want
>>> the up-level trim, pull the panels from the Bobcat and install them in
>>> your Pinto. They will fit with no changes. In most cases the only
>>> changes will be the panels themselves.
>>>
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>> Wish the grill and hood would have fit perfectly the 3 times I had to
>> replace them on the Bobcat after people drove up on the hood. All of
>> those
>> times insurance wrote the Bobcat off, giving me the resale value instead.
>> At
>> that time it was still legal to buy the car back for a couple of bucks,
>> go
>> to a junkyard and fix it up. All 3x I had to get Bobcat grills, Bobcat
>> hoods, only the radiators were either Bobcat or Pinto. Having said that
>> the
>> guys that put them on were friends with car knowledge as opposed to
>> trained
>> and certified mechanics so they probably didn't know you could alter the
>> Bobcat to fit Pinto grills and hoods.
>>
>> Econo-cars
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> You didn't notice that I said you had to change the header panel? What
> is it you say about reading comprehension???
>

Yes I always say read for comprehension, and I'm saying it to you now. I
said "...so they probably didn't know you could ALTER to Bobcat to fit Pinto
grills and hoods". Making an alteration is changing, modifying, adjusting to
fit.

> If you notice I said you can bolt on all the parts that make up the
> different areas.
>

You were wrong about just bolting the hood in place. This is what you said:
>>> Nothing that wasn't purely cosmetic. You can take a Pinto door and bolt
>>> it right in place of a Bobcat door, Same with the glass, engine, trans,
>>> front suspension, rear suspension, hood, bumpers, header panels and
>>> everything else.

In fact if by header panels you meant the two pieces on either side of the
grill, that is wrong too because the amber lights were different between the
Bobcat and Pinto for many years before they became identical in the last few
years of production, after the lawsuits.


> Namely the header panel, grill and hood. The difference is in the header
> panel and trim shape at the front of the hood. the rear and sides are
> the same. The fenders are the same as well.
>
> Maybe you should take a look at the actual part numbers off the
> Hollander interchange listing some time.
>

Maybe you should read for comprehension. You're just preaching to the choir
trying now to cover up the mistakes you made earlier. I already knew the
differences between the Bobcat and Pinto since I owned both, and had to
repair the Bobcat 3x so I know what parts on the front end were NOT
identical and couldn't just be bolted on. Nice try though.

Econo-car

"Kevin Bottorff" > wrote in message
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>> "Kevin Bottorff" > wrote in message
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>>>>>"Kevin Bottorff" wrote
>>>>> yea I am real worried your little rantings will brand me a "Great
>>>>> big
>>>>> fat liar" I am all tore up over your little smear campaign. Tear!
>>>>> NOT KB
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well I didn't know you were fat, but that makes more sense in
>>>> explaining why you're such a liar. Fat people generally have
>>>> self-esteem issues which makes them more likely to get jealous when
>>>> other people get something good that they didn't get.
>>>>
>>>> Econo-cars
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> woooo I am mortally wounded now. your wit is so sharp I can hardly
>>> stand
>>> it. your stupidity bores me now. ba by now. KB
>>>
>>
>> I don't bore you, I point you out as being the liar that you are, and
>> that's why you're running with your tail between your legs.
>>
>> Econo-cars
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>>
>>
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> you just keep thinking that Mr ego!!!! KB

See you're a liar like I said, you implied you were going to kill file me,
but here you are responding LOL.

Econo-cars

"Hachiroku ????" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 13:22:42 -0400, Econo-cars wrote:
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>> "Hachiroku ????" > wrote in message
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>>> On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 00:36:04 +0000, econo_cars wrote:
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>>>>>"Hachiroku ???? wrote
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having owned a 1977 Corvette for all of a week, I have to say that
>>>>>> combination of low bucket seating and the long nose created times
>>>>>> when the
>>>>>> center line was no longer visible (ie going up hill, and going around
>>>>>> esses that slopped upwards). That created temporarily unsafe driving
>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Econo-cars
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>>>>>
>>>>> I'd lioke to try that!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never driven a Corvette. Porsches and a Ferrari, but no
>>>>> vettes...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I've been a passenger in a Porsche, never drove one, and definitely not
>>>> a Ferrari. I've also not been in a newer Corvette, but from the looks
>>>> of it they nose has been redesigned in a way that is more practical for
>>>> driving in states that have roads of all elevations, rather than
>>>> California flat surface roads. (Yes Brent I realize there are a some
>>>> roads in California that curve and have hills, but no where near as
>>>> many as some other states.
>>>>
>>>> Econo-cars
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>>>
>>> There was a guy that sold a '98 for $12,000. If I had had a spare 12
>>> Large....
>>>
>>> I am NOT a GM person by any means...in fact, I loathe GM, but who
>>> WOULDN'T want a newer Vette?!?!
>>>
>>>
>> You're giving your young age away :-) At my age in a Corvette I'd look
>> like an old man who can't face the fact that he's old hahaha. My cars are
>> now old people's cars like the Corolla and Yaris sedan. The Yaris
>> hatchback is for the few children (actually late teens, early 20's and
>> early 20's have their own cars, sporty ones too lol) who haven't figured
>> out it is time to fly the coop yet. My spouse and I can't wait to
>> downsize
>> to a much smaller 1 level home with below ground level basement for
>> storage.
>>
>> Econo-cars
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>
> I got a couple of 'sedans', but I also have my Scion tC and an '88 Supra
> Sport Roof (No turbo... )
>
> I refuse to age gracefully...if at all!
>

Well you're a bigger man than I, or you live in a hugely populated area
where people have too much to do to be bothered pointing fingers and
laughing at the old man in a sports coup LOL. They're not that busy were we
live, especially since most in this immediate neighborhood are retired or
about to.

Econo-cars

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>>>>>>"Kevin Bottorff" wrote
>>>>>> yea I am real worried your little rantings will brand me a
>>>>>> "Great big
>>>>>> fat liar" I am all tore up over your little smear campaign.
>>>>>> Tear! NOT KB
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>>>>>
>>>>> Well I didn't know you were fat, but that makes more sense in
>>>>> explaining why you're such a liar. Fat people generally have
>>>>> self-esteem issues which makes them more likely to get jealous
>>>>> when other people get something good that they didn't get.
>>>>>
>>>>> Econo-cars
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> woooo I am mortally wounded now. your wit is so sharp I can
>>>> hardly stand
>>>> it. your stupidity bores me now. ba by now. KB
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't bore you, I point you out as being the liar that you are,
>>> and that's why you're running with your tail between your legs.
>>>
>>> Econo-cars
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>>>
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>> you just keep thinking that Mr ego!!!! KB
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> See you're a liar like I said, you implied you were going to kill file
> me, but here you are responding LOL.
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> Econo-cars
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your too stupid to kill file. and once agin I said good by. not even
menctioning I might kill file you. See you just keep proving YOU are the
liar. KB

>"Kevin Bottorff" wrote in message
> your too stupid

hahahaha you can't even get 'your' insults right, which means YOU'RE the
stupid one.

> to kill file. and once agin I said good by. not even
> menctioning I might kill file you. See you just keep proving YOU are the
> liar. KB
>

You know darn well you said bye bye in place of saying PLONK, even though
you had no intentions of really doing it.

Econo-cars

"econo_cars" >
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>>"Kevin Bottorff" wrote in message
>> your too stupid
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> hahahaha you can't even get 'your' insults right, which means YOU'RE
> the stupid one.
>
>> to kill file. and once agin I said good by. not even
>> menctioning I might kill file you. See you just keep proving YOU are
>> the liar. KB
>>
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> You know darn well you said bye bye in place of saying PLONK, even
> though you had no intentions of really doing it.
>
> Econo-cars
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I truly fill sorry for one so deluded that they think that reply was
anything but a self absorbed wine. You are a patheticly simple minded
twit.
PS I left several spelling errors so you will have something to focus on
Einstein. KB

On Dec 7 2010, 4:43*am, "C. E. White" > wrote:
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> > cuhulin
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> Another ridiculous slap at the Pinto. As usual the person who wrote this
> article is *repeating a bunch of trial lawyer created hype that was
> unreleated to reality. Pinto were not particualry dangerous and in fact
> among contemporary small cars had one of the better safety records. The
> whole notion that they would burst into flames at the drop of a hat was
> totally bogus. Ford made the mistake of fighting a lawsuit related to a
> Pinto that caught on fire in an accident and lost big time. This turned on
> the trial lawyer hype machine. If you don't know what I mean, look at what
> is happening today with regards to Toyota and supposed unintended
> acceleration.
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> I also disagree witht he Corvair being in the list. It may not have been the
> safest car ever sold, but I can think of dozens that were far worse.
>
> And for sure the list, does not include one of the most dangerous vehicles
> ever sold - the original VW Beetle.
>
> Ed

I totally agree, Pinto's were good cars, never owned one, but worked
on many. Usually just a 1/2 hour timing belt exchange. Never anything
really serious.

"Kevin Bottorff" > wrote in message
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>>>"Kevin Bottorff" wrote in message
>>> your too stupid
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>> hahahaha you can't even get 'your' insults right, which means YOU'RE
>> the stupid one.
>>
>>> to kill file. and once agin I said good by. not even
>>> menctioning I might kill file you. See you just keep proving YOU are
>>> the liar. KB
>>>
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>> You know darn well you said bye bye in place of saying PLONK, even
>> though you had no intentions of really doing it.
>>
>> Econo-cars
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> I truly fill sorry for one so deluded that they think that reply was
> anything but a self absorbed wine. You are a patheticly simple minded
> twit.
> PS I left several spelling errors so you will have something to focus on
> Einstein. KB
>

Get over your self pity. You are deluded, that's true, but I don't think
someone who lies as well as you do could possibly be simple minded.

PS: With your history of lies it would be difficult to tell what was
intentional and what wasn't. Anyway, you don't have to be Einstein to know
Grade 3 level English, it just appears that way to you.

Econo-cars

The gas tank in my 1914 Ford Runabout Roadster Model T is under the
seat, and the gas tank in my 1948 Willys Jeep is under the drivers seat.
How about that for Unsafe?
cuhulin