NASTY Lil' Cobra Being Twin Screwed

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>>>>>>>>>>>> I think an upscale Cougar well optioned with a 400 hp, 5.0L, N/A
>>>>>>>>>>>> 32 valve V-8 would sell like hotcakes priced around $35k.
>>>>>>>>>>> I still say a 4 door, sporty station wagon Mustang would sell
>>>>>>>>>>> like crazy!
>>>>>>>>>> That's like putting mustard on ice cream.
>>>>>>>>> Yuck! Being the ice cream connoisseur that I was, pre-diabetic now
>>>>>>>>> in my 50's, that was like a pan of cold water.
>>>>>>>> Sometimes a slap to the face is needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree, to the purist, it would be revolting. But to the somewhat
>>>>>>>>> brand loyal, practical man and somewhat experienced, or most likely
>>>>>>>>> displaced, secretary with several kids and friends, football
>>>>>>>>> practices and games, and the odd weekend project, I think it would
>>>>>>>>> do quite well.
>>>>>>>> I have a feeling that the number of new buyers they get from a four
>>>>>>>> door Mustang would be offset by the number of Mustang enthusiasts
>>>>>>>> they would lose. IMO, some things just aren't meant to be, like a
>>>>>>>> four door Mustang. Any more than two doors and it ceases to be a
>>>>>>>> Mustang. Besides there are plenty of fine and capable four door
>>>>>>>> sedans to choose from that are already in the showrooms.
>>>>>>> So you're thinking that if they came out with a second different
>>>>>>> model that has four doors, some loyal Mustang owners would sell and
>>>>>>> or never buy another Mustang again even with the two door still in
>>>>>>> production??
>>>>>> Selling a Mom and Pop four door Mustang diminishes the car's mystic,
>>>>>> reputation, heritage etc. It would also show Ford is so desperate to
>>>>>> sell vehicles that they will jeopardize one of their best selling,
>>>>>> most long term success models to do it. It would be a very bad
>>>>>> business decision, IMO.
>>>>> Well, I'm not positive I agree with that, but they could always call
>>>>> it a Falcon.
>>>> I don't care what they would call it as long as it doesn't have a
>>>> Mustang connotation in its name or even remotely resembles one
>>> If one's wife has her tits enhanced, they are still tits, and I doubt one
>>> will get so upset that he forgoes sharing carnal pleasures with her. He
>>> will probably do just the opposite.
>> Fake boobs do nothing for me. I'll take a set of natural A cups over a
>> set of DD's full of man made junk any day. Would you inject your penis
>> with silicone to make it bigger? I sure as hell wouldn't. I think it is
>> sad that us men have made women think they need all this plastic surgery
>> to look attractive and be desirable.
>
> Have you ever heard of
> Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD)
> What is it?
> ODD is a psychiatric disorder that is characterized by aggressiveness and a
> tendency to purposefully bother and irritate others. In layman terms it's
> like having a PhD in HTPPO (how to **** people off).

That sounds like a something we all suffer from here in this group.

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>>>>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>>>>> WindsorFox wrote:
>>>>>>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>>> John wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> John wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think an upscale Cougar well optioned with a 400 hp, 5.0L,
>>>>>>>>>>>> N/A 32 valve V-8 would sell like hotcakes priced around $35k.
>>>>>>>>>>> I still say a 4 door, sporty station wagon Mustang would sell
>>>>>>>>>>> like crazy!
>>>>>>>>>> That's like putting mustard on ice cream.
>>>>>>>>> Yuck! Being the ice cream connoisseur that I was, pre-diabetic
>>>>>>>>> now in my 50's, that was like a pan of cold water.
>>>>>>>> Sometimes a slap to the face is needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree, to the purist, it would be revolting. But to the
>>>>>>>>> somewhat brand loyal, practical man and somewhat experienced, or
>>>>>>>>> most likely displaced, secretary with several kids and friends,
>>>>>>>>> football practices and games, and the odd weekend project, I think
>>>>>>>>> it would do quite well.
>>>>>>>> I have a feeling that the number of new buyers they get from a four
>>>>>>>> door Mustang would be offset by the number of Mustang enthusiasts
>>>>>>>> they would lose. IMO, some things just aren't meant to be, like a
>>>>>>>> four door Mustang. Any more than two doors and it ceases to be a
>>>>>>>> Mustang. Besides there are plenty of fine and capable four door
>>>>>>>> sedans to choose from that are already in the showrooms.
>>>>>>> So you're thinking that if they came out with a second different
>>>>>>> model that has four doors, some loyal Mustang owners would sell and
>>>>>>> or never buy another Mustang again even with the two door still in
>>>>>>> production??
>>>>>> Selling a Mom and Pop four door Mustang diminishes the car's mystic,
>>>>>> reputation, heritage etc. It would also show Ford is so desperate to
>>>>>> sell vehicles that they will jeopardize one of their best selling,
>>>>>> most long term success models to do it. It would be a very bad
>>>>>> business decision, IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I'm not positive I agree with that, but they could always
>>>>> call it a Falcon.
>>>> I don't care what they would call it as long as it doesn't have a
>>>> Mustang connotation in its name or even remotely resembles one
>>>
>>> If one's wife has her tits enhanced, they are still tits, and I doubt
>>> one will get so upset that he forgoes sharing carnal pleasures with her.
>>> He will probably do just the opposite.
>>
>> Fake boobs do nothing for me. I'll take a set of natural A cups over a
>> set of DD's full of man made junk any day. Would you inject your penis
>> with silicone to make it bigger? I sure as hell wouldn't. I think it is
>> sad that us men have made women think they need all this plastic surgery
>> to look attractive and be desirable.
>
> Have you ever heard of
> Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD)
> What is it?
> ODD is a psychiatric disorder that is characterized by aggressiveness and
> a tendency to purposefully bother and irritate others. In layman terms
> it's like having a PhD in HTPPO (how to **** people off).
>

Ah that's your problem! Well at least you recognize it, isn't that the
first step to recovery???


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>> WindsorFox wrote:
>>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>>> WindsorFox wrote:
>>>>> Michael Johnson wrote:
>>>>>> John wrote:
>>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> John wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> I think an upscale Cougar well optioned with a 400 hp, 5.0L, N/A
>>>>>>>>>> 32 valve V-8 would sell like hotcakes priced around $35k.
>>>>>>>>> I still say a 4 door, sporty station wagon Mustang would sell like
>>>>>>>>> crazy!
>>>>>>>> That's like putting mustard on ice cream.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yuck! Being the ice cream connoisseur that I was, pre-diabetic now
>>>>>>> in my 50's, that was like a pan of cold water.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes a slap to the face is needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree, to the purist, it would be revolting. But to the somewhat
>>>>>>> brand loyal, practical man and somewhat experienced, or most likely
>>>>>>> displaced, secretary with several kids and friends, football
>>>>>>> practices and games, and the odd weekend project, I think it would
>>>>>>> do quite well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a feeling that the number of new buyers they get from a four
>>>>>> door Mustang would be offset by the number of Mustang enthusiasts
>>>>>> they would lose. IMO, some things just aren't meant to be, like a
>>>>>> four door Mustang. Any more than two doors and it ceases to be a
>>>>>> Mustang. Besides there are plenty of fine and capable four door
>>>>>> sedans to choose from that are already in the showrooms.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you're thinking that if they came out with a second different
>>>>> model that has four doors, some loyal Mustang owners would sell and or
>>>>> never buy another Mustang again even with the two door still in
>>>>> production??
>>>>
>>>> Selling a Mom and Pop four door Mustang diminishes the car's mystic,
>>>> reputation, heritage etc. It would also show Ford is so desperate to
>>>> sell vehicles that they will jeopardize one of their best selling, most
>>>> long term success models to do it. It would be a very bad business
>>>> decision, IMO.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I'm not positive I agree with that, but they could always call
>>> it a Falcon.
>>
>> I don't care what they would call it as long as it doesn't have a Mustang
>> connotation in its name or even remotely resembles one
>
> If one's wife has her tits enhanced, they are still tits, and I doubt one
> will get so upset that he forgoes sharing carnal pleasures with her. He
> will probably do just the opposite.

Fake tits? Absolutely unacceptable, that is worse than a tramp stamp...


>
> --
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> '69 Mach 1 w/ 390 4V
> Wide Ratio Toploader
> 3.50 Traction-Lok
> Acapulco Blue
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> Joe wrote:
>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My Name Is Nobody wrote:
>>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> oups.com...
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 8:40 pm, Michael Johnson > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I also think the 2-door model was an excellent idea but just
>>>>>>>>>>> had poor execution. 2-seaters are supposed to be sporty and
>>>>>>>>>>> Ford's last generation T-bird, at nearly 4,000 scale-busting
>>>>>>>>>>> pounds, didn't have a chance. But if they could have gotten
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>> Thunder
>>>>>>>>>>> [thighs] Bird down to around 3,200, given it a slightly more
>>>>>>>>>>> aggressive stance/look, installed some real thunder under
the
>>>> hood
>>>>>>>>>>> and given it a competitive price, I think Ford would have
>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> nice sales niche.
>>>>>>>>>> The reason I think it was a bad idea is they greatly narrowed
>>>>>>>>>> the car's target market. Ford took the original car from a
two
>>>> seater
>>>>>>>>>> to a four seater with great success. Had they not done that
it
>>>>>>>>>> would likely have been discontinued. Why they thought going
>>>>>>>>>> back to two seats would mean more sales is beyond me.
>>>>>>>>> So Ford should forever concede the American 2-seat market to
the
>>>>>>>>> Corvette?
>>>>>>>> That is an entirely different topic and market than the
>>>>>>>> Thunderbird ever was...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Besides the latest 2 seat T-bird was not in the same room let
>>>>>>>> alone group as the Corvette and Viper.
>>>>>>> By comparison, it was a pansy ass. I would rather have a Miata
>>>>>>> than that T-Bird.
>>>>>> <rowlf>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow.
>>>>> Well, I would. I can install a 302 into a Miata or get a Kenne
Bell
>>>>> twin screw blower and turn it into a Viper killer. Plus, it is
>>>>> light
>>>> as
>>>>> a feather and handles like it is on rails. I always looked at the
>>>> last
>>>>> T-Bird as a chick car and it had hardly any testosterone in it.
>>>> For the purposes of this discussion, let's not talk about 5.0
Miatas,
>>>> as they are rather cool because they're not really Miatas.
>>>>
>>>> That said, _any_ T-Bird has tons more testosterone than a friggin'
>>>> Miata. Even the name is wussie. "Miata". What does that conjure
up
>>>> in your mind?
>>>>
>>>> <rowlf>
>>> My nephew has a Miata and I've driven his quite a bit. The car
grows
>>> on you. It reminds me of my old Triumph Spitfire except it is a
much
>>> better vehicle. They are very fun to drive. Many men have the same
>>> feeling about Miatas as you do. My son does. If you can get past
>>> that you will find a very capable two seater.
>>
>> Perhaps I'll get past that when you can get past the whole name
thing.
>> I guess the issues are similar...
>
> I don't see the similarities. Putting four doors on a Mustang is a
huge
> change in the image of that car. The Mustang has nearly as much
history
> as the Corvette

??

Corvette has over 11 years on the Mustang...

> and that means something to the car's purpose and reason
> for existing. It the Mustang was circling the drain because of low
> sales volumes then I could understand Ford doing something radical
like
> making a wagon variant. Since this isn't the case, I see no need for
> Ford to make such a risky move and possibly jeopardize the car's
> excellent heritage. Trying to make one car fill a variety of roles
> rarely works and just serves to dilute that car's identity and, in the
> case of the Mustang, its reputation as a pony car.

OK then. Shall we agree to disagree on this one?

Joe wrote:
> Michael Johnson > wrote in news:z4qdneu-
> :
>
>> Joe wrote:
>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My Name Is Nobody wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 8:40 pm, Michael Johnson > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I also think the 2-door model was an excellent idea but just
>>>>>>>>>>>> had poor execution. 2-seaters are supposed to be sporty and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ford's last generation T-bird, at nearly 4,000 scale-busting
>>>>>>>>>>>> pounds, didn't have a chance. But if they could have gotten
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>> Thunder
>>>>>>>>>>>> [thighs] Bird down to around 3,200, given it a slightly more
>>>>>>>>>>>> aggressive stance/look, installed some real thunder under
> the
>>>>> hood
>>>>>>>>>>>> and given it a competitive price, I think Ford would have
>>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> nice sales niche.
>>>>>>>>>>> The reason I think it was a bad idea is they greatly narrowed
>>>>>>>>>>> the car's target market. Ford took the original car from a
> two
>>>>> seater
>>>>>>>>>>> to a four seater with great success. Had they not done that
> it
>>>>>>>>>>> would likely have been discontinued. Why they thought going
>>>>>>>>>>> back to two seats would mean more sales is beyond me.
>>>>>>>>>> So Ford should forever concede the American 2-seat market to
> the
>>>>>>>>>> Corvette?
>>>>>>>>> That is an entirely different topic and market than the
>>>>>>>>> Thunderbird ever was...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Besides the latest 2 seat T-bird was not in the same room let
>>>>>>>>> alone group as the Corvette and Viper.
>>>>>>>> By comparison, it was a pansy ass. I would rather have a Miata
>>>>>>>> than that T-Bird.
>>>>>>> <rowlf>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow.
>>>>>> Well, I would. I can install a 302 into a Miata or get a Kenne
> Bell
>>>>>> twin screw blower and turn it into a Viper killer. Plus, it is
>>>>>> light
>>>>> as
>>>>>> a feather and handles like it is on rails. I always looked at the
>>>>> last
>>>>>> T-Bird as a chick car and it had hardly any testosterone in it.
>>>>> For the purposes of this discussion, let's not talk about 5.0
> Miatas,
>>>>> as they are rather cool because they're not really Miatas.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, _any_ T-Bird has tons more testosterone than a friggin'
>>>>> Miata. Even the name is wussie. "Miata". What does that conjure
> up
>>>>> in your mind?
>>>>>
>>>>> <rowlf>
>>>> My nephew has a Miata and I've driven his quite a bit. The car
> grows
>>>> on you. It reminds me of my old Triumph Spitfire except it is a
> much
>>>> better vehicle. They are very fun to drive. Many men have the same
>>>> feeling about Miatas as you do. My son does. If you can get past
>>>> that you will find a very capable two seater.
>>> Perhaps I'll get past that when you can get past the whole name
> thing.
>>> I guess the issues are similar...
>> I don't see the similarities. Putting four doors on a Mustang is a
> huge
>> change in the image of that car. The Mustang has nearly as much
> history
>> as the Corvette
>
> ??
>
> Corvette has over 11 years on the Mustang...

It's kind of like a brother that is ten years older than you. When
you're 5 years old the age difference seems huge. When you're sixty
years old it isn't that great, relatively speaking. Both the Corvette
and the Mustang have a relatively long continuous history and the longer
they stick around the less meaningful that 11 years becomes.

>> and that means something to the car's purpose and reason
>> for existing. It the Mustang was circling the drain because of low
>> sales volumes then I could understand Ford doing something radical
> like
>> making a wagon variant. Since this isn't the case, I see no need for
>> Ford to make such a risky move and possibly jeopardize the car's
>> excellent heritage. Trying to make one car fill a variety of roles
>> rarely works and just serves to dilute that car's identity and, in the
>> case of the Mustang, its reputation as a pony car.
>
> OK then. Shall we agree to disagree on this one?

I think so. Has the horse turned into hamburger yet?

Michael Johnson wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>> My Name Is Nobody wrote:
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>> oups.com...
>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 8:40 pm, Michael Johnson > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I also think the 2-door model was an excellent idea but just had
>>>>>>>>> poor execution. 2-seaters are supposed to be sporty and Ford's
>>>>>>>>> last generation T-bird, at nearly 4,000 scale-busting pounds,
>>>>>>>>> didn't have a chance. But if they could have gotten that
>> Thunder
>>>>>>>>> [thighs] Bird down to around 3,200, given it a slightly more
>>>>>>>>> aggressive stance/look, installed some real thunder under the
>> hood
>>>>>>>>> and given it a competitive price, I think Ford would have found
>> a
>>>>>>>>> nice sales niche.
>>>>>>>> The reason I think it was a bad idea is they greatly narrowed the
>>>>>>>> car's target market. Ford took the original car from a two
>> seater
>>>>>>>> to a four seater with great success. Had they not done that it
>>>>>>>> would likely have been discontinued. Why they thought going back
>>>>>>>> to two seats would mean more sales is beyond me.
>>>>>>> So Ford should forever concede the American 2-seat market to the
>>>>>>> Corvette?
>>>>>> That is an entirely different topic and market than the Thunderbird
>>>>>> ever was...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Besides the latest 2 seat T-bird was not in the same room let alone
>>>>>> group as the Corvette and Viper.
>>>>> By comparison, it was a pansy ass. I would rather have a Miata
>>>>> than that T-Bird.
>>>> <rowlf>
>>>>
>>>> Wow.
>>> Well, I would. I can install a 302 into a Miata or get a Kenne Bell
>>> twin screw blower and turn it into a Viper killer. Plus, it is light
>> as
>>> a feather and handles like it is on rails. I always looked at the
>> last
>>> T-Bird as a chick car and it had hardly any testosterone in it.
>>
>> For the purposes of this discussion, let's not talk about 5.0 Miatas,
>> as they are rather cool because they're not really Miatas.
>>
>> That said, _any_ T-Bird has tons more testosterone than a friggin'
>> Miata. Even the name is wussie. "Miata". What does that conjure up
>> in your mind?
>>
>> <rowlf>
>
> My nephew has a Miata and I've driven his quite a bit. The car grows on
> you. It reminds me of my old Triumph Spitfire except it is a much
> better vehicle. They are very fun to drive. Many men have the same
> feeling about Miatas as you do. My son does. If you can get past that
> you will find a very capable two seater.

Only if it's a 5.0

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Michael Johnson > wrote in
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> Joe wrote:
>> Michael Johnson > wrote in news:z4qdneu-
>> :
>>
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>>>>> Michael Johnson > wrote in
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My Name Is Nobody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 8:40 pm, Michael Johnson > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also think the 2-door model was an excellent idea but
just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had poor execution. 2-seaters are supposed to be sporty
and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ford's last generation T-bird, at nearly 4,000 scale-
busting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pounds, didn't have a chance. But if they could have
gotten
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>> Thunder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [thighs] Bird down to around 3,200, given it a slightly
more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aggressive stance/look, installed some real thunder under
>> the
>>>>>> hood
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and given it a competitive price, I think Ford would have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nice sales niche.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The reason I think it was a bad idea is they greatly
narrowed
>>>>>>>>>>>> the car's target market. Ford took the original car from a
>> two
>>>>>> seater
>>>>>>>>>>>> to a four seater with great success. Had they not done
that
>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> would likely have been discontinued. Why they thought
going
>>>>>>>>>>>> back to two seats would mean more sales is beyond me.
>>>>>>>>>>> So Ford should forever concede the American 2-seat market to
>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Corvette?
>>>>>>>>>> That is an entirely different topic and market than the
>>>>>>>>>> Thunderbird ever was...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Besides the latest 2 seat T-bird was not in the same room let
>>>>>>>>>> alone group as the Corvette and Viper.
>>>>>>>>> By comparison, it was a pansy ass. I would rather have a
Miata
>>>>>>>>> than that T-Bird.
>>>>>>>> <rowlf>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wow.
>>>>>>> Well, I would. I can install a 302 into a Miata or get a Kenne
>> Bell
>>>>>>> twin screw blower and turn it into a Viper killer. Plus, it is
>>>>>>> light
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> a feather and handles like it is on rails. I always looked at
the
>>>>>> last
>>>>>>> T-Bird as a chick car and it had hardly any testosterone in it.
>>>>>> For the purposes of this discussion, let's not talk about 5.0
>> Miatas,
>>>>>> as they are rather cool because they're not really Miatas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, _any_ T-Bird has tons more testosterone than a
friggin'
>>>>>> Miata. Even the name is wussie. "Miata". What does that
conjure
>> up
>>>>>> in your mind?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <rowlf>
>>>>> My nephew has a Miata and I've driven his quite a bit. The car
>> grows
>>>>> on you. It reminds me of my old Triumph Spitfire except it is a
>> much
>>>>> better vehicle. They are very fun to drive. Many men have the
same
>>>>> feeling about Miatas as you do. My son does. If you can get past
>>>>> that you will find a very capable two seater.
>>>> Perhaps I'll get past that when you can get past the whole name
>> thing.
>>>> I guess the issues are similar...
>>> I don't see the similarities. Putting four doors on a Mustang is a
>> huge
>>> change in the image of that car. The Mustang has nearly as much
>> history
>>> as the Corvette
>>
>> ??
>>
>> Corvette has over 11 years on the Mustang...
>
> It's kind of like a brother that is ten years older than you. When
> you're 5 years old the age difference seems huge. When you're sixty
> years old it isn't that great, relatively speaking. Both the Corvette
> and the Mustang have a relatively long continuous history and the
longer
> they stick around the less meaningful that 11 years becomes.
>
>>> and that means something to the car's purpose and reason
>>> for existing. It the Mustang was circling the drain because of low
>>> sales volumes then I could understand Ford doing something radical
>> like
>>> making a wagon variant. Since this isn't the case, I see no need
for
>>> Ford to make such a risky move and possibly jeopardize the car's
>>> excellent heritage. Trying to make one car fill a variety of roles
>>> rarely works and just serves to dilute that car's identity and, in
the
>>> case of the Mustang, its reputation as a pony car.
>>
>> OK then. Shall we agree to disagree on this one?
>
> I think so. Has the horse turned into hamburger yet?

I dunno, but I had a steak cooked on the grill for dinner tonight.

On Oct 23, 8:25 pm, Michael Johnson > wrote:

> > Now that you mention it, the whole Fox line back in the '80s had your 4-
> > door and wagon Mustangs. They were called LTDs and Fairmonts. What's
> > in a name?

> When it comes to the Mustang, everything. What would you rather have
> sitting in your driveway? A Granada, LTD, Fairmont or a Mustang?

Ummmm....ummmm....ahhh.... ummmm... depends how each of them are set-
up. Top choice: Any of the first three with a tightened up chassis,
some factory Mustang alloy wheels, a 5 or 6 speed trans, and a rompin'
V8 under the hood.

I love sleepers!

Patrick

wrote:
> On Oct 23, 8:25 pm, Michael Johnson > wrote:
>
>>> Now that you mention it, the whole Fox line back in the '80s had your 4-
>>> door and wagon Mustangs. They were called LTDs and Fairmonts. What's
>>> in a name?
>
>> When it comes to the Mustang, everything. What would you rather have
>> sitting in your driveway? A Granada, LTD, Fairmont or a Mustang?
>
> Ummmm....ummmm....ahhh.... ummmm... depends how each of them are set-
> up. Top choice: Any of the first three with a tightened up chassis,
> some factory Mustang alloy wheels, a 5 or 6 speed trans, and a rompin'
> V8 under the hood.

If I had to keep the car as it comes from Ford the Mustang wins hands
down. The mentality of most car buyers doesn't include after market
tweaks of that magnitude.

> I love sleepers!

You're preaching to the choir here. Here's my car if you saw it on the
street:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c290/MikeJ9116/LX.jpg

Here is an under hood shot:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...6/engine3a.jpg

I have shocked more Camaro and Firebird owners over the years than I can
remember. I would let them stay even with me the first two gears and
then in third pull away from them like they were standing still. Then
at about 70-80 mph back off and let them pass me. The looks I would get
from the drivers were priceless.

On Oct 24, 9:02 pm, Michael Johnson > wrote:

> Fake boobs do nothing for me. I'll take a set of natural A cups over a
> set of DD's full of man made junk any day.

I could not agree more! What a waste. Too bad they don't realize
most guys are MUCH more concerned with ass and legs.

Patrick