The best PC simulator?

Hello, what, in your opinion, is the most serious driving simulation
computer game (for PC)?

I'm looking for a game that was developed with attention to actual
physical behavior of cars.

I remember that in my early teens I used to play a game called "Need
for Speed" - its first issue was apparently supported by some serious
analysis on car physics.


I'm also interested in realistic rally simulations. Could you name the
best ones?


Thanks.

> Hello, what, in your opinion, is the most serious driving simulation
> computer game (for PC)?
>
GTR
GPL (Grand Prix Legends)
N2003 (Nascar 2003)
F1RC (Formula One: EA Games)
LFS (Live for Speed)

> I remember that in my early teens I used to play a game called "Need
> for Speed" - its first issue was apparently supported by some serious
> analysis on car physics.
>

Arcade. Though Porshe Unleashed was decent.

>
> I'm also interested in realistic rally simulations. Could you name the
> best ones?
>
>

Richard Burns Rally
Mobil 1 Rally Championship (older game)

These are all I can think of, off hand.

Alanb

Yes, what he said ;-)

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"Alan Bernardo" > wrote in message
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>> Hello, what, in your opinion, is the most serious driving simulation
>> computer game (for PC)?
>>
> GTR
> GPL (Grand Prix Legends)
> N2003 (Nascar 2003)
> F1RC (Formula One: EA Games)
> LFS (Live for Speed)
>
>> I remember that in my early teens I used to play a game called "Need
>> for Speed" - its first issue was apparently supported by some serious
>> analysis on car physics.
>>
>
> Arcade. Though Porshe Unleashed was decent.
>
>>
>> I'm also interested in realistic rally simulations. Could you name the
>> best ones?
>>
>>
>
> Richard Burns Rally
> Mobil 1 Rally Championship (older game)
>
> These are all I can think of, off hand.
>
> Alanb
>

Yup, can't argue with that list of released sims. Though Mr. can't fly
without a hoover or whatever his name is will probably have something to
say...

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> Yes, what he said ;-)
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> "Alan Bernardo" > wrote in message
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> >> Hello, what, in your opinion, is the most serious driving simulation
> >> computer game (for PC)?
> >>
> > GTR
> > GPL (Grand Prix Legends)
> > N2003 (Nascar 2003)
> > F1RC (Formula One: EA Games)
> > LFS (Live for Speed)
> >
> >> I remember that in my early teens I used to play a game called "Need
> >> for Speed" - its first issue was apparently supported by some serious
> >> analysis on car physics.
> >>
> >
> > Arcade. Though Porshe Unleashed was decent.
> >
> >>
> >> I'm also interested in realistic rally simulations. Could you name the
> >> best ones?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Richard Burns Rally
> > Mobil 1 Rally Championship (older game)
> >
> > These are all I can think of, off hand.
> >
> > Alanb
> >
>
>

In article >,
(Alan Bernardo) wrote:

> These are all I can think of, off hand.

Good list.

Personally I'd point people straight at the rFactor, LFS2(alpha), and
Richard Burns Rally demos.

http://www.liveforspeed.net/
http://www.gamershell.com/download_7496.shtml
http://www.gamershell.com/download_7164.shtml

GPL remains the mother of all racing sims, but it can be a bit complicated
to get it from its out-of-the-box state to something that looks halfway
decent.

Andrew McP

The GPL 2004 demo plus the tracks and stuff off your original CD works quire
well.

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"Andrew MacPherson" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> (Alan Bernardo) wrote:
>
>> These are all I can think of, off hand.
>
> Good list.
>
> Personally I'd point people straight at the rFactor, LFS2(alpha), and
> Richard Burns Rally demos.
>
> http://www.liveforspeed.net/
> http://www.gamershell.com/download_7496.shtml
> http://www.gamershell.com/download_7164.shtml
>
> GPL remains the mother of all racing sims, but it can be a bit complicated
> to get it from its out-of-the-box state to something that looks halfway
> decent.
>
> Andrew McP

>> I remember that in my early teens I used to play a game called "Need
>> for Speed" - its first issue was apparently supported by some serious
>> analysis on car physics.
>>
>
> Arcade. Though Porshe Unleashed was decent.

I dunno I seem to remember the physics on the original NFS being fairly
decent for the time, but NFS2 onwards was arcade rubbish with the exception
of Porsche 2000/Unleashed

Agree with the rest though

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"Alan Bernardo" > wrote in message
...
>> Hello, what, in your opinion, is the most serious driving simulation
>> computer game (for PC)?
>>
> GTR
> GPL (Grand Prix Legends)
> N2003 (Nascar 2003)
> F1RC (Formula One: EA Games)
> LFS (Live for Speed)
>
>> I remember that in my early teens I used to play a game called "Need
>> for Speed" - its first issue was apparently supported by some serious
>> analysis on car physics.
>>
>
> Arcade. Though Porshe Unleashed was decent.
>
>>
>> I'm also interested in realistic rally simulations. Could you name the
>> best ones?
>>
>>
>
> Richard Burns Rally
> Mobil 1 Rally Championship (older game)
>
> These are all I can think of, off hand.
>
> Alanb
>

Thanks for the suggestions - already downloading the demos!

One more issue: which of the autosimulators is the most widely used to
record replays? I.e. people record replays, they're posted on a website
and a sort of league is created.

If anyone is into first-person shooters here, you may know of an online
project of "Quake speedrunning" - a huge database of Quake replays.
They have quite a community there - with records beaten all the time,
people having fun competing, admiring the most skilled and innovative.

The only similar project in autosims that I know of was created for a
Finnish (?) game "Motorhead". I remember it was fun to download those
replays recorded by gamers eager to beat records. BTW, joysticks were
used for most records, i.e. they were a better controller than keyboard
or steering wheel.

So what is the most active community of "autosim replays competition"
online?

I would add Viper Racing.

-Larry

"Andi Cole" > wrote in message
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> "Alan Bernardo" > wrote in message
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>>> Hello, what, in your opinion, is the most serious driving simulation
>>> computer game (for PC)?
>>>
>> GTR
>> GPL (Grand Prix Legends)
>> N2003 (Nascar 2003)
>> F1RC (Formula One: EA Games)
>> LFS (Live for Speed)
>>
>>> I remember that in my early teens I used to play a game called "Need
>>> for Speed" - its first issue was apparently supported by some serious
>>> analysis on car physics.
>>>
>>
>> Arcade. Though Porshe Unleashed was decent.
>>
>>>
>>> I'm also interested in realistic rally simulations. Could you name the
>>> best ones?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Richard Burns Rally
>> Mobil 1 Rally Championship (older game)
>>
>> These are all I can think of, off hand.
>>
>> Alanb
>>
>
>

On 23 May 2005 23:40:39 -0700, "Diet Rich" > wrote:

>Thanks for the suggestions - already downloading the demos!
>
>One more issue: which of the autosimulators is the most widely used to
>record replays? I.e. people record replays, they're posted on a website
>and a sort of league is created.
>
>If anyone is into first-person shooters here, you may know of an online
>project of "Quake speedrunning" - a huge database of Quake replays.
>They have quite a community there - with records beaten all the time,
>people having fun competing, admiring the most skilled and innovative.
>
>The only similar project in autosims that I know of was created for a
>Finnish (?) game "Motorhead". I remember it was fun to download those
>replays recorded by gamers eager to beat records. BTW, joysticks were
>used for most records, i.e. they were a better controller than keyboard
>or steering wheel.
>
>So what is the most active community of "autosim replays competition"
>online?

I'd say, GPL, most likely, right?

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