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"Lawrence Glickman" > wrote in message ... > On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 02:11:17 -0800, Winston > > wrote: > > >Lawrence Glickman wrote: > > > >> I've changed my ATF and transmission filter and gasket before, + > >> cleaned up the pan and the circular magnets. No big deal for me. > >> BTDT and have the coffee mug. > > > >Ah. A thousand pardons, then. > > > >> How you ended up with a $3000 tranny bill for one of your Camreys is > >> beyond me. I can't imagine what went wrong. > > > >Me neither. It sounded as if some grit got stuck in the main servo > >and put the main clutch in permanent 'linear mode'. ie self destruct. > >Though what I know about auto trannys wouldn't fill a thimble..... > > > >> Changing ATF alone is child's play. The pan drop and filter, well > >> that is teenager stuff. > >> I've never dared go beyond that level because I've never had to. > >> Lucky? Maybe. > > > >We have both been lucky, apparently! > > > >(...) > > > >> Hey guys, can you tell me which mud sample is from MY CAR and which is > >> from your test tube of ****?! > > > >I expect that their marketing example backfired here. > > > >We have both emptied the sumps of well-maintained transmissions. > >The fluid is never red. It's browinish with *lots* of suspended > >particulates. It might easily have run another 30K miles before > >jelling and blowing up the tranny. It really isn't *bad*, yet. > > Yes it is "bad." I've been told there is no such thing as mud > transmission fluid coming out of a healthy transmission. And if you > say "lots" of suspended particles, well yes my circular magnets had > *some* noticeable amount of powdery metallic material stuck to them, > but nothing was noticeable in either the fluid, filter, or sump > bottom. Evidently the particulates were small enough to make it > through the screen which they call a filter, and stayed in circulation > until the magnets caught them. > > I think that is normal, otherwise, why put the magnets in there. Or > even the filter. > > OTOH, dark brown fluid in a transmission is usually a sign that > something is wrong. As Edward just mentioned, overheating is a > possibility. In my case, I have a transmission cooler right at the > bottom of my radiator, so I would be very surprised if that is the > reason for the brown fluid in my case, but anything is possible with a > Taurus Transmission. > > >(...) > > > >> What I am going to do, is suction out the crap I can get to, add exact > >> same amount to tranny that I took out, to the drop. > > > >You left out the part about leveling up the fluid when you are done, > >but I get your point. I wish I could be assured that there isn't > >a sharp edge at the bottom of the dip tube waiting to shave plastic > >off the end of that suction tube on retraction... hoo boy. > > What I did was cut a bevel in the bottom of the tube so there is > always an intake port there no matter what position the tube is in or > where it is located. IOW, I just sliced the end at a 45 degree angle. > If I don't get the entire thing back out, I know something is left in > the engine. This is my 2 second solution to -that- problem. Just use > a razor knife or scissors and cut the end of the tube at a 45 degree > angle. When you get the entire tube back including the tip, you'll > know you're OK. > > >> I will repeat this proceedure every 90 days ( when I change my oil ) > >> until I have reason to believe I have CLEAN fluid inside the torque > >> converter as well as the rest of the assembly. > > > >Clean-ish fluid. The stuff loads up and turns brown fairly quickly. > > Well I dunno about that. I changed the tranny fluid on my Merc Tracer > at 30,000 miles, and it wasn't brown, I can assure you of that. > > >(...) > > > >> Last transmission I disassembled had a clean as a whistle filter, no > >> different than brand new. Although I put a new gasket on THAT ATF > >> pan, you can re-use the old one. At least once anyhow. Just be > >> careful to make sure the bolts are torqued evenly between 7 and 13 > >> inch pounds. > > > >Well, gaskets are cheap and resilient. I like the fact that the new > >gasket has a certain amount of stored 'spring' to help seal both > >surfaces. I can't imagine reusing that part. > > The problem with the new gasket is you have to put grease on the > bottom side of it so it won't slide off the metal pan when you are > re-attaching it. It will probably move anyhow, because it came in a > box, distorted in shape. So when you go to re-mount it, you have a > fun time trying to find the screw holes in the new gasket, and believe > me, there are a bazillion of them. > > SNIP Hi LG, next time u assemble with a new gasket, u might wanna use a spool of "Mama's" sewing thread, break off lengths of it, tie the gasket thru its screw-holes onto the pan, and assemble with ease--even down to the screws finding the holes. Been using this old-timey technique for decades, and it surely helps with those "folded-up" gaskets we use nowdays. HTH & good luck. Sounds like u guys really enjoy d-i-y servicing. Wish I still could; but just reading about it is still fun & interesting. s |
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On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 13:22:33 -0500, "sdlomi2" >
wrote: > Hi LG, next time u assemble with a new gasket, u might wanna use a spool >of "Mama's" sewing thread, break off lengths of it, tie the gasket thru its >screw-holes onto the pan, and assemble with ease--even down to the screws >finding the holes. Been using this old-timey technique for decades, and it >surely helps with those "folded-up" gaskets we use nowdays. > HTH & good luck. Sounds like u guys really enjoy d-i-y servicing. Wish >I still could; but just reading about it is still fun & interesting. s > Hi s, You got a brainstorm there ! One of those "why didn't I think of that" brainstorms ! EXCELLENT. I'm saving this one in the archive. Thanks many many times. Yes I somewhat enjoy Saving Money ;-\ Also, having been a sort of mechanic for all my Life, when I retired for medical reasons, I felt a continued need to work with my hands. This *hobby* is just the ticket. Thanks Again for an _excellent_ suggestion. Will do. Lg |
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sdlomi2 wrote:
(...) > SNIP > Hi LG, next time u assemble with a new gasket, u might wanna use a spool > of "Mama's" sewing thread, break off lengths of it, tie the gasket thru its > screw-holes onto the pan, and assemble with ease--even down to the screws > finding the holes. Been using this old-timey technique for decades, and it > surely helps with those "folded-up" gaskets we use nowdays. > HTH & good luck. Sounds like u guys really enjoy d-i-y servicing. Wish > I still could; but just reading about it is still fun & interesting. s Wow! That is a very nifty tip. Thanks! --Winston |
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