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PROBLEM SOLVED (was: no bus / CCD message or How to display error / fault codes 2001 Dodge Ram?)
"MoPar Man" > wrote in message ... > First let me thank maxpower (aka Glenn Measley), miles, FMB, Nosey, > TBone, Tom Lawrence, and Joe Brophy for the wealth of information and > the detailed answers to my technical questions about the Chrysler Data > Bus (tm)(C). My special thanks to Glen for giving me the encouragment > to continue diagnosing this problem in my own driveway. > Gee thanks but I didnt encourage you to work on it!!, but im glad you got it fixed. I still think it is rain related. Also I wont to say that I am one of those so called " Monkeys at the dealer" Let me know when you have another problem!! > To recap: > > 2001 Dodge ram, short cab, 5.2L, 2WD, all options. > > Truck ran fine one day, was parked overnight, there was rain that day > and night, then the next morning engine would turn over but not > start. After 2 days and some poking around > (disconnecting/reconnecting various connectors) engine would start and > briefly the guages worked for about a minute, then went dead, but > engine could then be started at will after that. > > When ignition is switched to on, odometer displays "no buS" and the > overhead console displays "CCD". > > Not having a proper wiring diagram, I focused on the wiring to the > instrument cluster (MIC). There are 2 connectors (10 pins each) and > after identifying all the ground and power pins, there were about 6 > pins that were candidates for being "the bus". One of those pins was > showing 40 ohms to ground, which I thought was strange. > > I metered each of those 6 to the 3 connectors at the PCM and found > that only 2 of them did indeed go to the PCM. As I suspected from > examining much of the dashboard wiring, those wires are always a > twisted pair - indicative of some sort of differential signaling, and > I suspected they were indeed "the bus". One of those wires was the > one showing 40 ohms to ground, and now I see it's showing 40 ohms to a > third pin at the PCM (on a different connector). > > Ok, so what I do next is this: with the 3 connectors at the PCM > already off, I disconnect as much of that cable as possible. That > basically means to disconnect it's opposite end from the main fuse > module beside the battery (it's a big square connector with a > hold-down bolt in the middle). Ok, I'm still reading 40 ohms - so > what's going on? Under the truck, I disconnect a cable going to the > transmission (it's got maybe 10 wires) and discover that one of those > wires is the one making a 40-ohm connection to one of the bus wires > (this is with all connectors still disconnected). > > Ok, time to cut the main cable away from the firewall and remove all > the black tape and physically inspect the twisted-pair bus wires. I > do this all the way to the connector at the fuse module, and still get > 40 ohms. The last thing is to take apart the square fuse-module > connector. I do this, and as I manipulate the outer cover, the 40-ohm > connection goes away. I manipulate the wires and manage to make the > 40-ohm connection come and go. > > I look closely at where the bus wires go inside this connector, and > where the mystery wire to the transmission goes, and it turns out > they're right beside each other. But what's really wierd is that > there's no indication that they're touching. No corrosion, no > chafing, no bared insulation. Very strange. > > So I re-position the wires and close up and re-tape the connector, > then re-tape the entire main cable back to the PCM connectors, and > re-install all connectors and assemblies in the dash that I took > apart. > > Needless to say, the MIC worked fine, and no PCM or MIC codes were > displayed when I tried the various diagnostic code reporting methods. > > I'm thinking that this problem had nothing to do with the rain that > happened the night before this problem started, but I still don't know > why the engine wouldn't start during the early phase of this > situation. > > I'm glad I did this, and not simply take it to the dealership and > maybe those monkeys wiggle something and the problem goes away only to > come back later. At least now I know where to look if it happens > again. |
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70 dodge 2 ton truck`
anyone looking for a pretty good old farm type truck? 1970 small block 4
spd. 2 ton on purple wave auction.com out of manhattan kansas. so far the bid is 550.00 looks to be a driver with not much rust. good floors and rockers. ksgp2 "MoPar Man" > wrote in message ... > > What combination of switches or knobs do I push to get a listing of > any error or fault codes for a 2001 Dodge ram (5.2 L / 318 V-8 with > overhead information console) ? > > It cranks fine but is not starting, is displaying "no bus" in the > odometer, and is showing "CCD" on the overhead display where the fuel > DTE and MPG readings should be. Fuel guage reads way below empty. > > It's got very low miles (about 20k) and spends most of it's time in a > garage. Recently it spent a few days outside during very heavy rain. > > At first I thought someone stole gas out of the tank, but it seems I'm > really just having an electrical connection problem. > > I want to go through the list on this page: > > http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32676 > > But I need to get an error code first, hence my question about codes. > > Thanx. |
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How to display error / fault codes 2001 Dodge Ram?
replying to MoPar Man, thomas herron wrote:
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