Revitalized Malibu Takes on Accord and Camry

"Sharx35" > wrote in message
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> "Canuck57" > wrote in message
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>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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>>>> "Sharx35" > wrote:
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>>>>> That TEN year old Camry only has 130,000 kilometres on
>>>>> it and is in MINT condition. WHY should I get a newer vehicle?
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is not a car in the world with that many kilometers/miles in MINT
>>> condition. Learn to use the definition properly for better credibility.
>>>
>>> Reasons it is NOT mint:
>>> Wear on the brake pedal
>>> Wear on tires, wiper blades
>>> Pitting on the windshield
>>> Seat cover wear
>>> Weather-stripping wear or compression
>>> Dust in the engine compartment
>>> Oil anyplace at all
>>> Brake pad and rotor wear
>>> Dirty mats
>>>
>>> And hundreds more.
>>
>> I think you missed Sharx35's point.
>>
>> For the price of one car payment or much less you can fix all of the
>> above. And brakes don't need to be replaced every month. Most people
>> spend far too much on autos and I too have been guilty of this, just not
>> as bad as most.
>>
>> And if you take care of them, buy a well made one like many Honda or
>> Toyota, semi-heated garage, keep the maintenance up etc., 200,000 miles
>> should be easy to get. And if you do take good care of them and buy a
>> good quality model right off, you will likely spend 1/2 of what others
>> pay for auto. In a lifetime that adds up to a nice chunk of change.
>>
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> With the Camry, for example, one doesn't have to trade in every 2 years to
> have a dependable vehicle.

Only because the warranty lasts for 3..

"Grumpy AuContraire" > wrote in message
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> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> "Tegger" > wrote in message
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>>>Just don't ask your question of anybody in the "collector" auto circle.
>>>To
>>>them, anything under 50 years-old is "modern", and they will sneer at you
>>>aggressively for your impertinence.
>>>
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>>
>> Antiques and Classics are a whole different story. A 17 year old Honda
>> or Toyota is not either one of those. It's just a 17 year old car.
>>
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> But then there are the 1st and 2nd generation Civics of which two are
> notable...
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> 1983 Civic 1500 "S" which was the forerunner of the early CRX
>
> and
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> 1982-83 1300 Civic FE which was the forerunner of the early CRX(s) that
> got great fuel economy.... 40+ MPG City and 55 MPG Highway in actual real
> world tests..
>
> JT

Hi JOAT - true, they are notable, but for all but the most eccentric, they
aren't cars that one would one would be driving at 17 years of age. Still
goes back to the matter of them being a 17 year old car, regardless of what
notable contribution they may have made to the annals of automotive history.

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"Sharx35" > wrote in message
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> "Mike Marlow" > wrote in message
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>> "Tegger" > wrote in message
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>>> Just don't ask your question of anybody in the "collector" auto circle.
>>> To
>>> them, anything under 50 years-old is "modern", and they will sneer at
>>> you
>>> aggressively for your impertinence.
>>>
>>
>> Antiques and Classics are a whole different story. A 17 year old Honda
>> or Toyota is not either one of those. It's just a 17 year old car.
>
> Did I mention that I pay CASH for my cars?
>

And what does that have to do with the discussion? It must impress you
greatly, for you to capitalize the word cash. Is it that you somehow feel
unique in paying cash for things?

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-Mike-

"Sharx35" > wrote in message
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> "Mike Marlow" > wrote in message
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>> "Sharx35" > wrote in message
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>>> Attitudes like THAT one are why so many people are only a payday or so
>>> away from financial ruin.
>>
>> If you say so. Funny - I'm not a payday or so away from financial ruin.
>> I simply see no reason to keep a car for 17 years. There are lots of
>> reasons why that would make no sense - other than what some may consider
>> bragging rights that they have a 17 year old car.
>>
>>> That TEN year old Camry only has 130,000 kilometres on it and is in MINT
>>> condition. WHY should I get a newer vehicle?
>>
>> Maybe reading for content would benefit you - note that I did not say 10,
>> I said 17.
>>
>>> It has ALL the features I want and rides and handles like a dream. My
>>> frugality and values have allowed me to retire from full-time work at 42
>>> (21 years ago) and build up a net worth of close to a million.
>>
>> Very good for you. That is a commendable thing. It does not change my
>> position that keeping a car to age 17 still causes me to wonder why.
>> There is a lot of ground between reckless financial behavior and miserly
>> behavior. I'm just one person who does not see such great nobility in
>> keeping something like a car to age 17 just so I can say I have a net
>> worth of close to a million.
>>
>>>NEXT question?
>>
>> You're not as impressive as your question seeks to make you feel.
>>
>>> And, NO, I do NOT waste my money on things like bottled water, huge
>>> screen TV's etc etc..
>>>
>>
>> It's easy to begin to believe that any form of spending might be
>> considered a waste by you. Oh well...
>>
>> --
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>> -Mike-
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> Inter yourself--then, for once, you will have contributed something to the
> Earth.
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>

Now we've gotten to where you really live. You're impressed with yourself,
and quickly succumb to childish postures when others around you aren't
equally impressed. Carry on - you've become quite amusing.

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-Mike-

"Sharx35" > wrote in message
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> Mike seems to wear it as a badge of honour. Frankly, anyone saddled with
> years and years of car payments because they INSIST on always trading in
> their vehicles is, IMHO, a loser.

And you sir, lack the ability to read and comprehend. Please quote where I
ever advocated debt. Correct - you cannot.

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-Mike-

"Sharx35" > wrote in message
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> With the Camry, for example, one doesn't have to trade in every 2 years to
> have a dependable vehicle. With GM, Ford or Chrysler...all bets are
> off....in most cases. I realize that there ARE exceptions to that comment.
>
>
>

Such a shame that you prove yourself to be so ignorant in this group. You
do realize don't you, that you are posting to a group of people who have
consistently proven the ability of GM products to last 200,000 miles easily,
without undue levels of maintenance. That's 3 times the mileage you've
accrued on your Camry while you keep it stowed in the garage. That means
they actually got to use their vehicles, rather than keep them parked for
most of their 10 year life (with plans to keep it parked for 7 more
years...). On top of that - this is a group of people who are not so
blinded by any particular brand loyalty, that they can admit the mistakes
and shortcomings of GM.

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-Mike-

"Mike Marlow" > wrote in
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> "Tegger" > wrote in message
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>> Just don't ask your question of anybody in the "collector" auto
>> circle. To them, anything under 50 years-old is "modern", and they
>> will sneer at you aggressively for your impertinence.
>>
>
> Antiques and Classics are a whole different story. A 17 year old
> Honda or Toyota is not either one of those. It's just a 17 year old
> car.
>



The "antique" or "Classic" appelation is beside the point.

To the purists, anything post-war is considered "modern". No post-war car
is "antique" or "Classic".

You're absolutely right that a 17 year-old Honda or Toyota is "just an old
car". So were Model A's and '57 Chevrolets at one time too. All cars go
through the "just an old car" phase before a few of them eventually get
famous and valuable.


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"80 Knight" > wrote in
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> "Sharx35" > wrote in message
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>> Did I mention that I pay CASH for my cars?
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> It wouldn't matter if you paid in gold. A 17 year old Honda is true
> garbage.
>



Hey, that wasn't nice! You just hurt my 18 year-old Integra's feelings!



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Tegger

"80 Knight" > wrote in message
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>>>>>> "Sharx35" > wrote in message
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm. My Camry is only ten years old so I won't be in the market for
>>>>>>> at least another SEVEN years. Hypothetically, though, instead of the
>>>>>>> 99CE 6 cyl. I have, I might go for a new, closer to the top of the
>>>>>>> line Camry. To me, Honda is overpriced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who would want to driver around in an 17 year old car?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Me, for instance. My car is 18 years old. Bought it new, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just don't ask your question of anybody in the "collector" auto
>>>>> circle. To
>>>>> them, anything under 50 years-old is "modern", and they will sneer at
>>>>> you
>>>>> aggressively for your impertinence.
>>>>
>>>> I'd call it something else, like a complete lack of values...no wonder
>>>> the world is in a recession.
>>>
>>> That is why recession/depressions occur, too much fat and leach on the
>>> hind, causes the economic animal to get sick. Once enough leaches are
>>> off the hind, the recovery can begin. The more leaches shaken off, the
>>> better the recovery. Far too many in sociaty BS their way with their
>>> corrupt values.
>>>
>>> Sort of like GMers, it is everyone elses fault but GMs. Delusional
>>> sickness for sure.
>>>
>>> Amazing how many in this recession do not have respect for debt.
>>>
>>
>> Mike seems to wear it as a badge of honour. Frankly, anyone saddled with
>> years and years of car payments because they INSIST on always trading in
>> their vehicles is, IMHO, a loser.
>
> Not really. From what I have seen of your post's, you are actually just a
> cheap prick.
>

Frugality enabled me to retire from full time work at 42 and to accumulate
near a million bucks in assets. Maybe YOU want to spend like a crack monkey.
Enjoy having to work until you are 90.

"Mike Marlow" > wrote in message
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> "Sharx35" > wrote in message
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>> With the Camry, for example, one doesn't have to trade in every 2 years
>> to have a dependable vehicle. With GM, Ford or Chrysler...all bets are
>> off....in most cases. I realize that there ARE exceptions to that
>> comment.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Such a shame that you prove yourself to be so ignorant in this group. You
> do realize don't you, that you are posting to a group of people who have
> consistently proven the ability of GM products to last 200,000 miles
> easily, without undue levels of maintenance. That's 3 times the mileage
> you've accrued on your Camry while you keep it stowed in the garage. That
> means they actually got to use their vehicles, rather than keep them
> parked for most of their 10 year life (with plans to keep it parked for 7
> more years...). On top of that - this is a group of people who are not so
> blinded by any particular brand loyalty, that they can admit the mistakes
> and shortcomings of GM.
>


Are you illiterate or just plain stupid? I garage the Camry when I am not
driving it unlike some idiots who leave their vehicles parked on the street
or exposed on open driveways.

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> -Mike-
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