Mobil One Synthetic Transmission Oil

great data point mat. wondered why my tranny was flaring. thanks!

MAT wrote:
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> ...
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>>I have a 2001 Accord with 2.3VTEC and 4 speed auto transmission. Can I use
>>Mobil One Synthetic transmission oil?
>>
>
>
> I had horrible experience with the mobil 1 in my auto 98 civic ex. I just
> changed it right before going on a long trip on I95 on a very hot summer
> day, as I was coming on and off the ramps the tranny was flaring a lot! I
> even checked the level a couple of times to make sure it was all there and
> the level was perfect. My take is that it was too slippery especially
> aggravated by extreme summer temps. There's a lot of discussion about
> friction modifiers in Honda Z1 and I believe it. I drained and filled 3
> times over the next couple of days with Z1 and everything was peachy.
>
>

jim beam wrote:
> great data point mat. wondered why my tranny was flaring. thanks!

internal clutch packs not clutching

jim beam wrote:
> great data point mat. wondered why my tranny was flaring. thanks!

internal clutch packs not clutching

That's part of the danger of over-filling: it may allow excessive air to get
emulsified in the ATF, and then the air compresses when pressure is applied
to the clutches.
"SoCalMike" > wrote in message
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> jim beam wrote:
> > great data point mat. wondered why my tranny was flaring. thanks!
>
> internal clutch packs not clutching

That's part of the danger of over-filling: it may allow excessive air to get
emulsified in the ATF, and then the air compresses when pressure is applied
to the clutches.
"SoCalMike" > wrote in message
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> jim beam wrote:
> > great data point mat. wondered why my tranny was flaring. thanks!
>
> internal clutch packs not clutching

On 2004-11-19 01:23:24 -0600, y_p_w > said:

>
>
> togaboy wrote:
>
>> I have a 2001 Accord with 2.3VTEC and 4 speed auto transmission. Can I use
>> Mobil One Synthetic transmission oil?
>
> Temporarily - maybe.
>
> However - Honda automatic transmissions supposedly run best on Honda
> ATF available from the dealer. Honda used to say Honda ATF was
> preferred, but Dexron II/III was acceptable. I believe now they
> recommend Honda ATF only unless there's an emergency.

My 1993 Accord manual (and the local Honda dealer) says Dex III is OK,
but many local independent shops now flatly insist on using the Honda
stuff--must be lawsuit-o-phobia. I wish they wouldn't, 'cos I prefer
they use a tranny-flush machine instead of a simple drain-and-refill.
With the (ab)use this car gets, it needs the flush: the old ATF is
often scorched brown after 30K miles.
I wonder if the Mobil 1 would do any better though...I'd been using
whatever they typically put in there (Valvoline Max-Life would be my
guess), until this last time, when I had to wait for the "new
management" to fetch...four quarts of Genuine Honda ATF. At about $5 a
quart. I'll be taking my business elsewhere next time.

On 2004-11-19 01:23:24 -0600, y_p_w > said:

>
>
> togaboy wrote:
>
>> I have a 2001 Accord with 2.3VTEC and 4 speed auto transmission. Can I use
>> Mobil One Synthetic transmission oil?
>
> Temporarily - maybe.
>
> However - Honda automatic transmissions supposedly run best on Honda
> ATF available from the dealer. Honda used to say Honda ATF was
> preferred, but Dexron II/III was acceptable. I believe now they
> recommend Honda ATF only unless there's an emergency.

My 1993 Accord manual (and the local Honda dealer) says Dex III is OK,
but many local independent shops now flatly insist on using the Honda
stuff--must be lawsuit-o-phobia. I wish they wouldn't, 'cos I prefer
they use a tranny-flush machine instead of a simple drain-and-refill.
With the (ab)use this car gets, it needs the flush: the old ATF is
often scorched brown after 30K miles.
I wonder if the Mobil 1 would do any better though...I'd been using
whatever they typically put in there (Valvoline Max-Life would be my
guess), until this last time, when I had to wait for the "new
management" to fetch...four quarts of Genuine Honda ATF. At about $5 a
quart. I'll be taking my business elsewhere next time.

>
> My 1993 Accord manual (and the local Honda dealer) says Dex III is OK,
>but many local independent shops now flatly insist on using the Honda
>stuff--must be lawsuit-o-phobia. I wish they wouldn't, 'cos I prefer
>they use a tranny-flush machine instead of a simple drain-and-refill.


Doesn't the dealer off the tranny-flush using Honda ATF???

>
> My 1993 Accord manual (and the local Honda dealer) says Dex III is OK,
>but many local independent shops now flatly insist on using the Honda
>stuff--must be lawsuit-o-phobia. I wish they wouldn't, 'cos I prefer
>they use a tranny-flush machine instead of a simple drain-and-refill.


Doesn't the dealer off the tranny-flush using Honda ATF???