MIKE Hunter's smaller car thesis??

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Jeff" > wrote in message
> news:KNSii.4249$Of2.901@trnddc06...
>> larry moe 'n curly wrote:
>>> Jeff wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have no knowledge of the President touching her in any appropriate
>>>> way,
>>> I'm sure you've seen the video:
>>>
>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=IPArZwLHi2Y
>>>
>>> So what do you mean? Chancellor Merkel didn't seem to conider it
>>> appropriate touching.
>> And she was laughing as he was walking away.
>
> Probably trying to be tactful, knowing she was being filmed.

Wow! You're learning to read minds like Mike Hunter. I just hope you are
actually able to draw the correct conclusion every now and then.

Jeff

larry moe 'n curly wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>
>> larry moe 'n curly wrote:
>
>> George W. Bush has not had any alcohol in a long time; since long before
>> he became President.
>>
>>> It wasn't alcohol-free beer that he drank at the recent G-8 summit in
>>> Germany, nor did he miss next morning's activities solely due to tummy
>>> trouble. At least he didn't get drunk and shoot someone in the face,
>>> as Cheney did.
>> Please provide evidence about how much beer he drank in Germany.
>>
>>> The tummy ache excuse is way too coincidental to be credible.
>> People get sick all the time. His father became ill when he was visiting
>> Japan at one point in time when he was President.
>>
>> There are many reasons why people get sick. Drinking is one of them.
>> Viruses and bacteria are others.
>>
> But it was already well known on the previous day that President Bush
> had been suffering from the flu. OTOH GW Bush had no cold or flu, his
> tummy ache came out of the blue, and nobody else at the summit
> experienced anything similar.

None of which proves that it was not a virus or bacteria.

>> My understanding is that he doesn't drink at all any more.
>>
>>> The more extraordinary the claim, the more extraordinary the evidence
>>> must be to support it. So please provide 24/7 video and brain scans
>>> of GW Bush. His frequent odd public behavior can't be due to complete
>>> sobriety or abstinence from drugs.
>> Sorry, I don't have a microscope powerful enough to see his brain. ;-)
>
> Nobody does. Nobody does.

Electron microscopes and atomic force microscopes can. Read about them
on Wikipedia, if you like.

>> Despite this, Bush says he doesn't drink.
>> http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/issues/l/aa001106a.htm
>
> I don't believe him. He just doesn't act sober enough.

Well, we'll have to agree to differ.

Jeff

"Jeff" > wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "Jeff" > wrote in message
>> news:KNSii.4249$Of2.901@trnddc06...
>>> larry moe 'n curly wrote:
>>>> Jeff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have no knowledge of the President touching her in any appropriate
>>>>> way,
>>>> I'm sure you've seen the video:
>>>>
>>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=IPArZwLHi2Y
>>>>
>>>> So what do you mean? Chancellor Merkel didn't seem to conider it
>>>> appropriate touching.
>>> And she was laughing as he was walking away.
>>
>> Probably trying to be tactful, knowing she was being filmed.
>
> Wow! You're learning to read minds like Mike Hunter. I just hope you are
> actually able to draw the correct conclusion every now and then.

Well, what else would explain it? She looked majorly peeved at first, & I
assume knew cameras were rolling.

Cathy

>
> Jeff

"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
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> "Michael Pardee" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> We'll agree to differ on the subject, then. I have my own list of
>>> qualifications for certain jobs. Clear communication is at the top of my
>>> list for a president, and Bush does not meet that qualification unless
>>> he has a script.
>>>
>>>
>> The concept of communication from the president to the public is a very
>> recent one, one I feel mirrors the rise of the entertainment industry as
>> each is dependent on commmunication technology. Personally, I would not
>> want a glib incompetent in the office. I acknowledge that a lot of people
>> feel President Bush is an incompetent and that is certainly their right.
>> But I can't recall a single accusation that he failed to clearly instruct
>> the people who report to him, and that is the real importance of
>> communication ability.
>>
>> You are aware that the overwhelming majority of quotations ascribed to
>> politicians are fabricated, and it is to your credit you used one that
>> wasn't.
>>
>> Mike
>
>
> I wasn't aware that one was fabricated. How did you find that out?
>
I must be miscommunicating; "the overwhelming majority of quotations
ascribed to
politicians are fabricated, and it is to your credit you used one that
wasn't." That one was not.

Mike

"Cathy F." > wrote in message
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>
> "Michael Pardee" > wrote in message
> .. .
>>
>> You are aware that the overwhelming majority of quotations ascribed to
>> politicians are fabricated, and it is to your credit you used one that
>> wasn't.
>
> With GWB, so many of his flubs have been recorded live, that I bet it'd be
> difficult to find one that was fabricated!
>
> Cathy
>
> P.S. I'd live to trim the x-posting, but I don't know which of those ngs
> you're posting from!
>
I'm in alt.autos.honda. Where are you?

Snopes has only a limited selection of the verbal flubs attributed to GWB -
it looks like they have more for Marion Barry (whom I don't support, but who
also doesn't deserve all the spoofs gone wrong.) Ditto with John Kerry and
everybody else who is mischaracterized:
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/candidate.asp
You'll notice even the single misquote of this selection properly attributed
to GWB was correct in it's original form.

Still, none of them are as juicy in my opinion as the faux pas made by
TheAirCar as they tried to translate their promo material to english: "in
three words: the future is now. "
http://www.theaircar.com/thecar.html

Mike

"larry moe 'n curly" > wrote in message
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>
> Jeff wrote:
>> Despite this, Bush says he doesn't drink.
>> http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/issues/l/aa001106a.htm
>
> I don't believe him. He just doesn't act sober enough.
>
>

Could you enlighten us? I had an alcoholic father and an alcoholic
stepmother, and I don't see the signs.

Mike

On 7/4/2007 1:42 PM JoeSpareBedroom spake these words of knowledge:

> "Michael Pardee" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message
>> news:HhRii.11501>
>>> "I know how hard it is to put food on your family". He said that. What do
>>> you think about that statement?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I think you are too much concerned about appearance and too little
>> concerned about substance. GWB has never claimed to be good at speaking
>> exemporaneously, and I share the same problem. It is amazing to me that
>> some people are articulate, or can play musical instruments, or can juggle
>> chainsaws. Not all of the people who can do those things are very
>> intelligent, though; those are merely individual talents.
>>
>> Just ignore the malicious gossip and you will do better.
>>
>> Mike
>
> We'll agree to differ on the subject, then. I have my own list of
> qualifications for certain jobs. Clear communication is at the top of my
> list for a president, and Bush does not meet that qualification unless he
> has a script.
>

I saw a bumper sticker that said, "Our next President should be fluent
in at least one language".


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
"Churchill and Bush can both be considered wartime leaders, just as
Secretariat and Mr. Ed were both horses." -- James Rhodes

Jeff wrote:

> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> >> larry moe 'n curly wrote:

> >>> Chancellor Merkel didn't seem to conider it appropriate touching.

> >> And she was laughing as he was walking away.
> >
> > Probably trying to be tactful, knowing she was being filmed.
>
> Wow! You're learning to read minds like Mike Hunter. I just hope you are
> actually able to draw the correct conclusion every now and then.

JSB drew the correct conclusion, as anyone with even a basic
understanding of social norms, facial expressions, and body language
would have been able to do. It didn't take even a good poker player
to read her right, so why do you think ESP was required?

Johnny Hageyama wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>>>> larry moe 'n curly wrote:
>
>>>>> Chancellor Merkel didn't seem to conider it appropriate touching.
>
>>>> And she was laughing as he was walking away.
>>> Probably trying to be tactful, knowing she was being filmed.
>> Wow! You're learning to read minds like Mike Hunter. I just hope you are
>> actually able to draw the correct conclusion every now and then.
>
> JSB drew the correct conclusion, as anyone with even a basic
> understanding of social norms, facial expressions, and body language
> would have been able to do. It didn't take even a good poker player
> to read her right, so why do you think ESP was required?

I disagree. From what I saw, she was surprised. But, when Bush was
walking away, she was smiling (that was best viewed on the CBS video,
not the ones YouTube - they were too short and didn't show Bush walking
away).

Whether she was trying to be tactful, because she was being filmed or
not would require a mind-reader to figure out for sure. JBS, IMHO,
doesn't qualify.

I have never suggested Bush's behavior was appropriate.

I disagree with your conclusion that you can make any conclusion, with
just 5 seconds of video. We don't know if they were talking just before
they sat down, what their interactions were like or why he did what he did.

It may or may not have been totally innocent. I saw 20 seconds, at most,
of video, taken out of context. I only know some of what happened, and
only for 20 seconds. I am not going to judge anyone based on that.

Jeff

Mike Hunter wrote:

> I do not now, or have I ever owned an SUV. I am retired now and what I do
> have is fifteen years of my thirty years experience, as an automotive
> structural design engineer, designing automobile crumple zones and test
> crashing hundreds of all types of vehicles and observing the result on crash
> dummies.

In your expert opinion, should a rational car buyer even bother to
consider crash test results, or do those results matter too little to
be significant in real life?