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10 to 25% better MPG, with 2 or 3 ounces of Acetone per 10 gals of gas
"Tegger" > wrote in message ... > "Jeff" > wrote in news:cbu%h.957$LJ3.529@trnddc02: > >> >> "Max" > wrote in message >> oups.com... >>> Acetone is available at autoparts stores, walgreens, walmarts, etc, >>> and costs only 10 to 15 cents per ounce. Everyone who cares about air >>> pollution and the high cost of gasoline should know about this. >> <...> >> >>> http://www.lubedev.com/articles/additive.htm >> >> I noticed that there were a total of ZERO references in that article. >> >> Nail polish remover is acetone. >> >> I really doubt that it makes much of a difference in gas mileage. >> > > > Nobody's posted this link yet, so I will: > <http://www.cartalk.com/content/columns//Archive/2006/January/08.html> So you think old Tom and Ray of Car Talk have any clue about this? Let's see: They both went to MIT, one has a DBAand Tom's udnergrad degree is in chemical engineering. Gee, I guess they should know what they're talking about. And they're right about this one. Jeff > -- > Tegger > |
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10 to 25% better MPG, with 2 or 3 ounces of Acetone per 10 gals of gas
"You know I actually studsies IC engine design and thermodynamic principles
many years ago in college........." "studsies" ??????? ...............by retarding sprak and reducing efficency and lower MPG........ "sprak" ??????? "efficency" ?????? TheSnoMan.com Bugs Bunny said it best: "What a Maroon"! Spdloader |
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10 to 25% better MPG, with 2 or 3 ounces of Acetone per 10 gals of gas
On Sun, 06 May 2007 20:49:46 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> wrote: >Ummmm....the friction losses are EXACTLY what go to the cooling system, >with some no doubt going out the tailpipe. You are not correct. Fricton goes to heat in block and most of that heat goes to cooling system (a very small amount is lost to air flow over engine) and then there is the fricton from shearing the oil which heats it up too and that goes to cooling system as well with some (a small amount) being lost in pan to airflow or a greater amount to airflow if you have a aux external engine oil cooler. The only heat from this to go out the tail pipe is from the extra fuel burned to overcome the friction not the heat from the fricton itself. Also a small fraction of that heat is lost to heating incoming mixture but this is a very small percentage unless you are running pure alchol and then the heat loss is a little higher. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
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10 to 25% better MPG, with 2 or 3 ounces of Acetone per 10 gals of gas
On Sun, 06 May 2007 09:42:20 -0700, Max wrote:
> Acetone is available at autoparts stores, walgreens, walmarts, etc, and > costs only 10 to 15 cents per ounce. Everyone who cares about air > pollution and the high cost of gasoline should know about this. This again? You try it and let us know how you make out. I gave the van I was going to try it in away, and the rest of my cars run too well to try Voodoo with... |
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10 to 25% better MPG, with 2 or 3 ounces of Acetone per 10 gals of gas
On Mon, 7 May 2007 00:33:46 +0000 (UTC), Tegger >
wrote: >Never went anywhere. Back in the late 70's and early 80's they played with a ceramic engine that had no active cooling and it was about 50% more efficent (running 40 to 45% efficent on pump gas) but they dropped it because while they could get the engine to run and last a long time if it was never shut off and allowed to cool it had issues from constant heat on cool cycles that a engine sees in a consumers car. The next big step for gas engine will be direct injection which can in theory increase efficency 10 to 15%. It should start to become more wide spread by 2010 or so. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
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10 to 25% better MPG, with 2 or 3 ounces of Acetone per 10 gals of gas
On Mon, 07 May 2007 01:19:06 +0000, Jeff wrote:
> So you think old Tom and Ray of Car Talk have any clue about this? > > Let's see: They both went to MIT, one has a DBAand Tom's udnergrad degree > is in chemical engineering. Gee, I guess they should know what they're > talking about. > > And they're right about this one. > > Jeff Yup. Good Ole Tommy and Ray. Tommy's a PhD. |
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10 to 25% better MPG, with 2 or 3 ounces of Acetone per 10 gals of gas
"Hachiroku ????" > wrote in message news:vtv%h.6436$rm.1155@trndny03... > On Sun, 06 May 2007 09:42:20 -0700, Max wrote: > >> Acetone is available at autoparts stores, walgreens, walmarts, etc, and >> costs only 10 to 15 cents per ounce. Everyone who cares about air >> pollution and the high cost of gasoline should know about this. > > > This again? > > You try it and let us know how you make out. I gave the van I was going to > try it in away, and the rest of my cars run too well to try Voodoo with... > > This is soo funny. Years ago in another life time I remember reading long before I was born how some crank was advertising running on water and acetone. Henry Ford and Thomas Edison investigated the man's claims. What they found was detonation was so severe an engine would never last long on the stuff, and it was also highly corrosive to the fuel system and engine components. This just goes to show how long crack pots have been trying to push this **** as a fuel, or fuel additive. It didn't work back in the early 1900's any better than it works today. Whitelightning |
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There is a woman who lives next door to me,she works for Shell on an off
shore rig,Ram Powell.When she gets home,I will ask her about that oil stuff. cuhulin |
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10 to 25% better MPG, with 2 or 3 ounces of Acetone per 10 gals of gas
"Hachiroku ハチ*ク" > wrote in message news:Uvv%h.6468$rm.4091@trndny03... > On Mon, 07 May 2007 01:19:06 +0000, Jeff wrote: > >> So you think old Tom and Ray of Car Talk have any clue about this? >> >> Let's see: They both went to MIT, one has a DBAand Tom's udnergrad degree >> is in chemical engineering. Gee, I guess they should know what they're >> talking about. >> >> And they're right about this one. >> >> Jeff > > > Yup. Good Ole Tommy and Ray. Tommy's a PhD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_Talk says it is a DBA. However, MIT says it's a Ph.D. Guess what? I will go with MIT and say, you're right, it's a Ph.D. http://alumweb.mit.edu/opendoor/200301/magliozzi.shtml They gave the MIT commencement address in 1999, too. I don't think they got honarary Ph.D.s. Jeff |
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10 to 25% better MPG, with 2 or 3 ounces of Acetone per 10 gals of gas
"Whitelightning" > wrote in message news:jTv%h.3887$HR1.745@trnddc01... > > "Hachiroku ????" > wrote in message > news:vtv%h.6436$rm.1155@trndny03... >> On Sun, 06 May 2007 09:42:20 -0700, Max wrote: >> >>> Acetone is available at autoparts stores, walgreens, walmarts, etc, and >>> costs only 10 to 15 cents per ounce. Everyone who cares about air >>> pollution and the high cost of gasoline should know about this. >> >> >> This again? >> >> You try it and let us know how you make out. I gave the van I was going >> to >> try it in away, and the rest of my cars run too well to try Voodoo >> with... >> >> > This is soo funny. Years ago in another life time I remember reading long > before I was born how some crank was advertising running on water and > acetone. Henry Ford and Thomas Edison investigated the man's claims. What > they found was detonation was so severe an engine would never last long on > the stuff, and it was also highly corrosive to the fuel system and engine > components. This just goes to show how long crack pots have been trying > to push this **** as a fuel, or fuel additive. It didn't work back in the > early 1900's any better than it works today. > Whitelightning For you to get the type of increase they are advertising, a lot of unburned fuel would have to be leaving the engine. That's just not the case. Fuel is nearly completely burned. This reminds me of those tornado things advertised on TV. The ones that swirl the air and fuel together and work on every engine. I believe that people who use acetone and those tornado things get better mileage because they think they will and drive better, with slower acceleration, letting off the gas when approachign a stop light (instead of racing up to see who gets to stop first), etc. Any change in the fuel mileage is from the way people drive with this stuff. Jeff |
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