2011 5L weighs almost 3900lbs

On 2010-08-07, Rich > wrote:

>> how do you get rid of 500 pounds from the 5L ?

> Gee, better engineering? Better use of materials? Why did my '88 LX 5.0
> weigh so much less than the new Mustang, and it had a cast iron block and
> heads?

Yes, and was made 22 years ago. Before airbags, before tire pressure
indicators, before OBD2, before hundreds of pounds of things required on
todays cars. Had a great deal more chasis flex, didn't have a drivetrain
that could take 400hp and live up to ford requirements.

Sure there are ways around the weight penalties. The mustang buyer
generally can't afford them.

Stir up ****? This is Rich... from Rich, this is as good as it gets...

I'm waiting for "julienne fries should be krinkle cut" and "why is frozen
desert frozen?" and "how come Steve McQueen didn't borrow my car... ohhh, it
ain't really a Mustang but nobody has ever asked for my credentials".

Rich is a unique person... we wish he wasn't Canadian but he's from Toronto
and that makes it sort of expected.

Rich has about as much chance of buying a 2011 as I have of becoming Prime
Minister and convincing Obama that he might be better off doing toilet paper
commercials.

Rich feels that you should be able to drive just as fast as you can and if
you hit someone that didn't see you driving as fast as you possibly can ...
THEY are to blame... You were well within your right driving as fast as you
possibly can...

When I think of Rich... I have visions of shaken baby syndrome... fetal
alcohol syndrome... blunt object trauma... "accidentally" falling on the
floor face first.... sibling rivalry.... and so many other modern conditions
I can't pretend to understand....

Rich just tries to make unreasonable demands sound a little less
unreasonable...

I thjink the internet calls it <FAIL>


"GILL" > wrote in message
...
> Rich wrote:
>> Gill > wrote in
>> :
>>> NoOp wrote:
>>>> On Aug 3, 8:04 pm, Rich > wrote:
>>>>> But an all aluminum block weighs about 125lbs. Good place to start.
>>>>> The 5L can apparently crack the 12's with some minor mods and good
>>>>> tires. Imagine what it would be like at 3100 lbs?
>>>> The GT weighs about 3,600. And it'll run 12s in pure stock factory
>>>> trim.
>>>>
>>>> Patrick
>>> On the other hand, the Ferrari Enzo (using the lightest materials)
>>> weighs in at about 3100 lbs, a coincidence? I think not!
>>>
>>
>> So does a Vette.
> So why didn't GM make the Camaro like a Vet? You got the money to own a
> Vet? Or you just trying to stir up ****?

Jim Warman wrote:

> Rich has about as much chance of buying a 2011 as I have of becoming Prime
> Minister and convincing Obama that he might be better off doing toilet paper
> commercials.
I see, or the Maple Queefs winning the cup!

Brent > wrote in
:

> On 2010-08-07, Rich > wrote:
>
>>> how do you get rid of 500 pounds from the 5L ?
>
>> Gee, better engineering? Better use of materials? Why did my '88 LX
>> 5.0 weigh so much less than the new Mustang, and it had a cast iron
>> block and heads?
>
> Yes, and was made 22 years ago. Before airbags, before tire pressure
> indicators, before OBD2, before hundreds of pounds of things required
> on todays cars. Had a great deal more chasis flex, didn't have a
> drivetrain that could take 400hp and live up to ford requirements.
>
> Sure there are ways around the weight penalties. The mustang buyer
> generally can't afford them.
>
>
>

I'd love to see a weight breakdown by part for the Mustang.

"Jim Warman" > wrote in
news:5r57o.10760$Z6.3616@edtnps82:

> Stir up ****? This is Rich... from Rich, this is as good as it gets...
>
> I'm waiting for "julienne fries should be krinkle cut" and "why is
> frozen desert frozen?" and "how come Steve McQueen didn't borrow my
> car... ohhh, it ain't really a Mustang but nobody has ever asked for
> my credentials".
>
> Rich is a unique person... we wish he wasn't Canadian but he's from
> Toronto and that makes it sort of expected.
>
> Rich has about as much chance of buying a 2011 as I have of becoming
> Prime Minister and convincing Obama that he might be better off doing
> toilet paper commercials.
>
> Rich feels that you should be able to drive just as fast as you can
> and if you hit someone that didn't see you driving as fast as you
> possibly can ... THEY are to blame... You were well within your right
> driving as fast as you possibly can...
>
>

You really should be driving a 1995 V-6, being such an old lady Volvo
driver.

"Rich" > wrote in message
...
>
> You really should be driving a 1995 V-6, being such an old lady Volvo
> driver.
>

Ok....... without knowing what you mean... I bought an 05 V6 convertible for
my wife to drive.... Is that like a Volvo? I find that it can be a lot of
fun to drive.

FWIW, I have a friend with a Viper.... borrowed it a few times. It isn't
that much fun to drive since you can get into trouble real fast with it. But
it's a lot of fun to drive if you can stay out of trouble...

if you can stay out of trouble.

Modern cars (and trucks) are already using a lot of "tricks" to reduce
weight (part of the CAFE deal). These include increasing usage of magnesium
(this stuff can get real interesting when you are trapped in a burning car).
If the 2011 weighs 3900 pounds... it does that for a reason. I don't know
what you drive (a 95 V6?) but i don't think you should bitch too hard about
the weight of a new ride if you aren't about to buy one. And if the car
weighs too much... buy a car that doesn't weigh so much. If the car is too
red... buy one that isn't so red.... if the car is too small - don't buy one
that is too small....

ad infinitum

This may appear bottom posted.... it isn't... do not believe your eyes. I
top posted it and then moved some bottom **** to the top.

"Jim Warman" > wrote in
news:7Im9o.16$89.3@edtnps83:

>
> "Rich" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> You really should be driving a 1995 V-6, being such an old lady Volvo
>> driver.
>>
>
> Ok....... without knowing what you mean... I bought an 05 V6
> convertible for my wife to drive.... Is that like a Volvo? I find that
> it can be a lot of fun to drive.
>
> FWIW, I have a friend with a Viper.... borrowed it a few times. It
> isn't that much fun to drive since you can get into trouble real fast
> with it. But it's a lot of fun to drive if you can stay out of
> trouble...
>
> if you can stay out of trouble.

I drove four Mustangs, pretty much the way I chose for 19 years. Then,
the liberal faggots in Ontario upped the fine for 50kph or over to almost
$10k with six months suspended.
So even on an empty, sunny, dry highway, it's a no-no. Now, I won't risk
it. So pussy mission accomplished, just a bit more control exercised
over a docile public. Or money grab, you choose.