Don't expect the 2011 V6 to last very long

Is it true you have to rev it up to 6500 to get full HP and/or torque?
Isn't that people stay away from ricers? So they don't end up having to do
ring jobs every 15k?

On 2010-07-20, Rich > wrote:
> Is it true you have to rev it up to 6500 to get full HP and/or torque?
> Isn't that people stay away from ricers?

I thought it was the cartoonish look of the cars and being FWD.

> So they don't end up having to do ring jobs every 15k?

Um no. Ricers end up taking their cars apart a lot due to the damage
they themselves do with their modifications. Left stock the engines last
a good long time.

"Rich" > wrote in message
...
> Is it true you have to rev it up to 6500 to get full HP and/or torque?
> Isn't that people stay away from ricers? So they don't end up having to
> do
> ring jobs every 15k?

How often do you actually use full horsepower and torque? The way the cars
are geared, the engine aren't going to rev any more than the V8 for normal
everyday driving. I suppose if you try to drive around in first and second
all the time you might wear the engine out sooner, but I don't see how this
will be a problem for any sane people.

Ed

C. E. White wrote:
> "Rich" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Is it true you have to rev it up to 6500 to get full HP and/or torque?
>> Isn't that people stay away from ricers? So they don't end up having to
>> do
>> ring jobs every 15k?
>
> How often do you actually use full horsepower and torque? The way the cars
> are geared, the engine aren't going to rev any more than the V8 for normal
> everyday driving. I suppose if you try to drive around in first and second
> all the time you might wear the engine out sooner, but I don't see how this
> will be a problem for any sane people.
>
> Ed
>
>
I'm more of a V8 guy, but this thing is actually pretty cool looking,
from what I watched on this youtube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGZB4qe4d-M

Rich wrote:
> Is it true you have to rev it up to 6500 to get full HP and/or torque?
> Isn't that people stay away from ricers? So they don't end up having to do
> ring jobs every 15k?

The HP peak is at 6500, but the torque peaks at 4250. No surprise
that the HP peak is higher than the torque peak on a modern IC engine.
--
Cheers, Bob

Ed... you're talking to Rich.... the word "sane" doesn't compute...

"Jim Warman" > wrote in news:VOG1o.9560$Z6.6188
@edtnps82:

> Ed... you're talking to Rich.... the word "sane" doesn't compute...
>
>
>

One reviewer said this, not me. In addition, he said the suspension was
mushy.

A funny thing happened on the way to the NG....I accidentally Googled "large
hadron collider".

Now, you might ask what this has to do with Fords in general or Mustangs in
particular (sorry about the pun). Obviously nothing....

But, if we look a little closer - some scientists say that this will be a
valuable research tool while other scientists say that this machine could be
the end of the world....

From this, we can deduce that we can't believe everything we read.... even
if spoken by "experts".

In the "let's add a little ****ing logic for a change, Rich" department - If
you are cruising down the highway at a leisurely 110 km/h... you will no
doubt find that the motor is churning over at a pretty docile rpm because
good fuel mileage is still an overwhelmimgly important matter. You don't
attract many car customers by building hand grenades.

FWIW, if you get the automatic trans, you will find that the 6R80 has TWO
overdrive ratios... Fifth is 0.87:1 and 6th is 0.69:1..... The most exotic
differential you will get from the factory will be along the lines of
3.73:1. Just because peak HP happens at 6000+ rpm doesn't mean you are going
to spend much time there (well, not anyone that drives "normal", anyway).

Sorry I can't quote ratios for the manual trans but the trend with most of
Fords current offerings is to get the final drive ratio into a realm where
performance can be gained and then add overdrive ratios to regain or
maintain fuel numbers. (The new 6R140 trans also has two OD gears).

FWIW, if you drive around pretending that the gas pedal is an "ON/OFF"
switch, expect an early demise for anything attached to it... If you act
remotely civilized, it should last quite a bit longer...


"Rich" > wrote in message
...
> "Jim Warman" > wrote in news:VOG1o.9560$Z6.6188
> @edtnps82:
>
>> Ed... you're talking to Rich.... the word "sane" doesn't compute...
>>
>>
>>
>
> One reviewer said this, not me. In addition, he said the suspension was
> mushy.

"Jim Warman" > wrote in
news:WbM1o.9734$z%6.5922@edtnps83:

> A funny thing happened on the way to the NG....I accidentally Googled
> "large hadron collider".
>
> Now, you might ask what this has to do with Fords in general or
> Mustangs in particular (sorry about the pun). Obviously nothing....
>
> But, if we look a little closer - some scientists say that this will
> be a valuable research tool while other scientists say that this
> machine could be the end of the world....
>
> From this, we can deduce that we can't believe everything we read....
> even if spoken by "experts".
>
> In the "let's add a little ****ing logic for a change, Rich"
> department - If you are cruising down the highway at a leisurely 110
> km/h... you will no doubt find that the motor is churning over at a
> pretty docile rpm because good fuel mileage is still an overwhelmimgly
> important matter. You don't attract many car customers by building
> hand grenades.
>
> FWIW, if you get the automatic trans, you will find that the 6R80 has
> TWO overdrive ratios... Fifth is 0.87:1 and 6th is 0.69:1..... The
> most exotic differential you will get from the factory will be along
> the lines of 3.73:1. Just because peak HP happens at 6000+ rpm doesn't
> mean you are going to spend much time there (well, not anyone that
> drives "normal", anyway).
>
> Sorry I can't quote ratios for the manual trans but the trend with
> most of Fords current offerings is to get the final drive ratio into a
> realm where performance can be gained and then add overdrive ratios to
> regain or maintain fuel numbers. (The new 6R140 trans also has two OD
> gears).
>
> FWIW, if you drive around pretending that the gas pedal is an "ON/OFF"
> switch, expect an early demise for anything attached to it... If you
> act remotely civilized, it should last quite a bit longer...
>

You want to act civilized, go buy a silver, 4-door whatever.

"Civilized" is a funny term coming from Rich...

"In addition "he" said the suspension was mushy".... Rich, I cooked some
ribs the other night... two batches, actually... The ones I liked burned my
loving brides tongue. The ones she liked, I found bland. HE said the
suspension felt mushy... How did YOU find the suspension? Was it mushy? Come
on Rich... youi can tell us... Or did you forget that we all see things
differently? And did you forget you haven't driven the car to see if your
reviewer was right...

****... you just don't get it, do you?

One of the big problems with the world today is that we are waiting for
somebody else to tell us if we liked something or not.....

Go back to street racing... that might be your Mum crossing the road ahead
of you.


"Rich" > wrote in message
...
> "Jim Warman" > wrote in
> news:WbM1o.9734$z%6.5922@edtnps83:
>
>> A funny thing happened on the way to the NG....I accidentally Googled
>> "large hadron collider".
>>
>> Now, you might ask what this has to do with Fords in general or
>> Mustangs in particular (sorry about the pun). Obviously nothing....
>>
>> But, if we look a little closer - some scientists say that this will
>> be a valuable research tool while other scientists say that this
>> machine could be the end of the world....
>>
>> From this, we can deduce that we can't believe everything we read....
>> even if spoken by "experts".
>>
>> In the "let's add a little ****ing logic for a change, Rich"
>> department - If you are cruising down the highway at a leisurely 110
>> km/h... you will no doubt find that the motor is churning over at a
>> pretty docile rpm because good fuel mileage is still an overwhelmimgly
>> important matter. You don't attract many car customers by building
>> hand grenades.
>>
>> FWIW, if you get the automatic trans, you will find that the 6R80 has
>> TWO overdrive ratios... Fifth is 0.87:1 and 6th is 0.69:1..... The
>> most exotic differential you will get from the factory will be along
>> the lines of 3.73:1. Just because peak HP happens at 6000+ rpm doesn't
>> mean you are going to spend much time there (well, not anyone that
>> drives "normal", anyway).
>>
>> Sorry I can't quote ratios for the manual trans but the trend with
>> most of Fords current offerings is to get the final drive ratio into a
>> realm where performance can be gained and then add overdrive ratios to
>> regain or maintain fuel numbers. (The new 6R140 trans also has two OD
>> gears).
>>
>> FWIW, if you drive around pretending that the gas pedal is an "ON/OFF"
>> switch, expect an early demise for anything attached to it... If you
>> act remotely civilized, it should last quite a bit longer...
>>
>
> You want to act civilized, go buy a silver, 4-door whatever.
>
>