Announcing RAMJAW.org

Announcing RAMJAW.org (that stands for Rec.Autos.Makers.Jeep+Willys)
a web site dedicated to the discussion of all things Jeep, and some
talk around the campfire about everything else. The purpose of this
site is to provide a gathering place for Jeepers to gather, talk, swap
stories, ask questions, and offer advice. And, is an alternative to
Usenet newsgroup of the same name.

I've been lurking here in the ramjaw group for about 10 years and have
watched with sadness its slow slide into a group where the spam and
troll posts far outnumber anything with content. RAMJAW.org is not a
commercial site, but a place for real folks to hang out without the
trolls and mean spirited personal attacks. I am not moderating the
site, but offensive posts will be deleted and repeat offenders will be
banned.

So come on over and make yourself comfortable. Post your questions,
opinions, stories, and pictures, invite your friends and enjoy.

Dean

Not looking good so far. You register then your site can't send an
activation link.

Admin mail: Message could not be sent. Mailer Error: SMTP Error: Could not
authenticate.

Dave

"ramjaw.org" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Announcing RAMJAW.org (that stands for Rec.Autos.Makers.Jeep+Willys)
> a web site dedicated to the discussion of all things Jeep, and some
> talk around the campfire about everything else. The purpose of this
> site is to provide a gathering place for Jeepers to gather, talk, swap
> stories, ask questions, and offer advice. And, is an alternative to
> Usenet newsgroup of the same name.
>
> I've been lurking here in the ramjaw group for about 10 years and have
> watched with sadness its slow slide into a group where the spam and
> troll posts far outnumber anything with content. RAMJAW.org is not a
> commercial site, but a place for real folks to hang out without the
> trolls and mean spirited personal attacks. I am not moderating the
> site, but offensive posts will be deleted and repeat offenders will be
> banned.
>
> So come on over and make yourself comfortable. Post your questions,
> opinions, stories, and pictures, invite your friends and enjoy.
>
> Dean
>

I prefer the free speech, even if I have to put up with the knuckleheads.
And who says what is an "offensive post"? I'll bet it's just something that
Dean doesn't like. Maybe he's a Republican, or a Communist, or a
Right-to-Lifer. Mike with his posting the Charter and Bill with his
reporting abuse to ISP's are all the moderators I need, thank you.

Cheers,

Earle

"Dave Milne" > wrote in message
. ..
> Not looking good so far. You register then your site can't send an
> activation link.
>
> Admin mail: Message could not be sent. Mailer Error: SMTP Error: Could not
> authenticate.
>
> Dave
>
> "ramjaw.org" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> > Announcing RAMJAW.org (that stands for Rec.Autos.Makers.Jeep+Willys)
> > a web site dedicated to the discussion of all things Jeep, and some
> > talk around the campfire about everything else. The purpose of this
> > site is to provide a gathering place for Jeepers to gather, talk, swap
> > stories, ask questions, and offer advice. And, is an alternative to
> > Usenet newsgroup of the same name.
> >
> > I've been lurking here in the ramjaw group for about 10 years and have
> > watched with sadness its slow slide into a group where the spam and
> > troll posts far outnumber anything with content. RAMJAW.org is not a
> > commercial site, but a place for real folks to hang out without the
> > trolls and mean spirited personal attacks. I am not moderating the
> > site, but offensive posts will be deleted and repeat offenders will be
> > banned.
> >
> > So come on over and make yourself comfortable. Post your questions,
> > opinions, stories, and pictures, invite your friends and enjoy.
> >
> > Dean
> >
>
>

I don't think it will replace ramjaw - it will always be yet another jeep
forum. How well is takes off is dependent on how much effort he puts into
it. Last time I looked there wasn't a single thread started, not even by
him. So, I looked, and left.

Dave

"Earle Horton" > wrote in message
...
> I prefer the free speech, even if I have to put up with the knuckleheads.
> And who says what is an "offensive post"? I'll bet it's just something
that
> Dean doesn't like. Maybe he's a Republican, or a Communist, or a
> Right-to-Lifer. Mike with his posting the Charter and Bill with his
> reporting abuse to ISP's are all the moderators I need, thank you.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Not looking good so far. You register then your site can't send an
> > activation link.
> >
> > Admin mail: Message could not be sent. Mailer Error: SMTP Error: Could
not
> > authenticate.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > "ramjaw.org" > wrote in message
> > ups.com...
> > > Announcing RAMJAW.org (that stands for Rec.Autos.Makers.Jeep+Willys)
> > > a web site dedicated to the discussion of all things Jeep, and some
> > > talk around the campfire about everything else. The purpose of this
> > > site is to provide a gathering place for Jeepers to gather, talk, swap
> > > stories, ask questions, and offer advice. And, is an alternative to
> > > Usenet newsgroup of the same name.
> > >
> > > I've been lurking here in the ramjaw group for about 10 years and have
> > > watched with sadness its slow slide into a group where the spam and
> > > troll posts far outnumber anything with content. RAMJAW.org is not a
> > > commercial site, but a place for real folks to hang out without the
> > > trolls and mean spirited personal attacks. I am not moderating the
> > > site, but offensive posts will be deleted and repeat offenders will be
> > > banned.
> > >
> > > So come on over and make yourself comfortable. Post your questions,
> > > opinions, stories, and pictures, invite your friends and enjoy.
> > >
> > > Dean
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

After I got my filters working nicely and the lack of the 'bot dumping
crud entries, this has settled into about the same NG it always was. A
quick review shows I'm gettin about about 90% valid, Jeep related
entries. The unfiltered version would sure scare off the newbies though.

Earle Horton wrote:
> I prefer the free speech, even if I have to put up with the knuckleheads.
> And who says what is an "offensive post"? I'll bet it's just something that
> Dean doesn't like. Maybe he's a Republican, or a Communist, or a
> Right-to-Lifer. Mike with his posting the Charter and Bill with his
> reporting abuse to ISP's are all the moderators I need, thank you.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Not looking good so far. You register then your site can't send an
>> activation link.
>>
>> Admin mail: Message could not be sent. Mailer Error: SMTP Error: Could not
>> authenticate.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> "ramjaw.org" > wrote in message
>> ups.com...
>>> Announcing RAMJAW.org (that stands for Rec.Autos.Makers.Jeep+Willys)
>>> a web site dedicated to the discussion of all things Jeep, and some
>>> talk around the campfire about everything else. The purpose of this
>>> site is to provide a gathering place for Jeepers to gather, talk, swap
>>> stories, ask questions, and offer advice. And, is an alternative to
>>> Usenet newsgroup of the same name.
>>>
>>> I've been lurking here in the ramjaw group for about 10 years and have
>>> watched with sadness its slow slide into a group where the spam and
>>> troll posts far outnumber anything with content. RAMJAW.org is not a
>>> commercial site, but a place for real folks to hang out without the
>>> trolls and mean spirited personal attacks. I am not moderating the
>>> site, but offensive posts will be deleted and repeat offenders will be
>>> banned.
>>>
>>> So come on over and make yourself comfortable. Post your questions,
>>> opinions, stories, and pictures, invite your friends and enjoy.
>>>
>>> Dean
>>>
>>
>
>

That's fixed now, sorry.



On Oct 14, 2:22 am, "Dave Milne" >
wrote:
> Not looking good so far. You register then your site can't send an
> activation link.
>
> Admin mail: Message could not be sent. Mailer Error: SMTP Error: Could not
> authenticate.
>
> Dave
>
> "ramjaw.org" > wrote in message
>
> ups.com...
>
> > Announcing RAMJAW.org (that stands for Rec.Autos.Makers.Jeep+Willys)
> > a web site dedicated to the discussion of all things Jeep, and some
> > talk around the campfire about everything else. The purpose of this
> > site is to provide a gathering place for Jeepers to gather, talk, swap
> > stories, ask questions, and offer advice. And, is an alternative to
> > Usenet newsgroup of the same name.
>
> > I've been lurking here in the ramjaw group for about 10 years and have
> > watched with sadness its slow slide into a group where the spam and
> > troll posts far outnumber anything with content. RAMJAW.org is not a
> > commercial site, but a place for real folks to hang out without the
> > trolls and mean spirited personal attacks. I am not moderating the
> > site, but offensive posts will be deleted and repeat offenders will be
> > banned.
>
> > So come on over and make yourself comfortable. Post your questions,
> > opinions, stories, and pictures, invite your friends and enjoy.
>
> > Dean

Good idea, let's hope it flies. I rather like the idea of a moderated group
now, the way things are going.

"ramjaw.org" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> That's fixed now, sorry.
>
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2:22 am, "Dave Milne" >
> wrote:
>> Not looking good so far. You register then your site can't send an
>> activation link.
>>
>> Admin mail: Message could not be sent. Mailer Error: SMTP Error: Could
>> not
>> authenticate.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> "ramjaw.org" > wrote in message
>>
>> ups.com...
>>
>> > Announcing RAMJAW.org (that stands for Rec.Autos.Makers.Jeep+Willys)
>> > a web site dedicated to the discussion of all things Jeep, and some
>> > talk around the campfire about everything else. The purpose of this
>> > site is to provide a gathering place for Jeepers to gather, talk, swap
>> > stories, ask questions, and offer advice. And, is an alternative to
>> > Usenet newsgroup of the same name.
>>
>> > I've been lurking here in the ramjaw group for about 10 years and have
>> > watched with sadness its slow slide into a group where the spam and
>> > troll posts far outnumber anything with content. RAMJAW.org is not a
>> > commercial site, but a place for real folks to hang out without the
>> > trolls and mean spirited personal attacks. I am not moderating the
>> > site, but offensive posts will be deleted and repeat offenders will be
>> > banned.
>>
>> > So come on over and make yourself comfortable. Post your questions,
>> > opinions, stories, and pictures, invite your friends and enjoy.
>>
>> > Dean
>
>

On Oct 14, 9:17 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote:
> Good idea, let's hope it flies. I rather like the idea of a moderated group
> now, the way things are going.
>
> "ramjaw.org" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
> > That's fixed now, sorry.
>
> > On Oct 14, 2:22 am, "Dave Milne" >
> > wrote:
> >> Not looking good so far. You register then your site can't send an
> >> activation link.
>
> >> Admin mail: Message could not be sent. Mailer Error: SMTP Error: Could
> >> not
> >> authenticate.
>
> >> Dave
>
> >> "ramjaw.org" > wrote in message
>
> roups.com...
>
> >> > Announcing RAMJAW.org (that stands for Rec.Autos.Makers.Jeep+Willys)
> >> > a web site dedicated to the discussion of all things Jeep, and some
> >> > talk around the campfire about everything else. The purpose of this
> >> > site is to provide a gathering place for Jeepers to gather, talk, swap
> >> > stories, ask questions, and offer advice. And, is an alternative to
> >> > Usenet newsgroup of the same name.
>
> >> > I've been lurking here in the ramjaw group for about 10 years and have
> >> > watched with sadness its slow slide into a group where the spam and
> >> > troll posts far outnumber anything with content. RAMJAW.org is not a
> >> > commercial site, but a place for real folks to hang out without the
> >> > trolls and mean spirited personal attacks. I am not moderating the
> >> > site, but offensive posts will be deleted and repeat offenders will be
> >> > banned.
>
> >> > So come on over and make yourself comfortable. Post your questions,
> >> > opinions, stories, and pictures, invite your friends and enjoy.
>
> >> > Dean

It is a good idea I registered.
I belong to other moderated forums that have helped me a learn lot.
And I may have helped a few folks in those forums. Maybe this new
forum will grow into place us jeepers can go to learn and help
others.
I will always read/lurk/post in this usenet group. I do like usenet
and I am curious on how long the stupidity will go on here. This was
also the first Jeep group of any kind I found and I enjoy reading some
of the posts here.
Been reading/posting/lurking here for over 5 years now.

On Oct 14, 8:20 am, "Earle Horton" > wrote:
> I prefer the free speech, even if I have to put up with the knuckleheads.

RAMJAW.org isn't about moderation, there will be plenty of
knuckleheads for you to banter with.

> And who says what is an "offensive post"? I'll bet it's just something that
> Dean doesn't like.

I "moderate" several other forums and to this day I have never removed
a post. That does not mean I have agreed with every post. I think
most people would agree with my idea of an offensive post in a Jeep
forum, spam, porn, or totally off topic. (but that last one would
just be moved to the right section when I get around to it.)

> Maybe he's a Republican, or a Communist, or a Right-to-Lifer.

Well I can see the groups that Earle doesn't like. <lol> Personally I
don't get involved with political talk, so I couldn't say what I am.

> Mike with his posting the Charter

Mike's charter posting shows that someone still cares about this group
and is a good thing IMO. But this is Usenet and there are technical
limitations to what it can do.

> and Bill with his reporting abuse to ISP's

Like I said this is Usenet. Bill can report to ISP's till the cows
come home, and a big lot of nothing has been accomplished. Maybe some
enjoy continuously fiddling with kill files. For all I know some
might actually enjoy Bill and the boys. RAMJAW.org isn't for them,
but If you want to talk about Jeeps in a friendly forum then it is.

> are all the moderators I need, thank you.

RAMJAW.org isn't about moderation its about Jeeps, and other things
around the campfire. Its about using more current web technology to
post pictures along with the content, its about having a place to talk
about non-jeep related topics with friends. If you think I'm going to
sit around and moderate this forum you will be VERY disappointed. I
enjoy a busy life of which this is only a part. I pay for the domain,
hosting, and development out of my pocket. I have gotten way more
value from the group over the years than I could possibly give back in
knowledge, so its my way of giving back.

This maybe just another Jeep forum, but it is different. The other
forums are commercial, and I don't have a problem with that, but when
I get advertised to at every turn I get tired and leave. RAMJAW.org
isn't commercial, it has been founded by a guy that has been lurking
here for a long time. (Oh and the google ads are up as a service. If
by some miracle they actually do more than cover the costs the extra
will be donated to a deserving charity, which the members will
choose.)

So come-on over there won't be any content until you start posting it
<lol>
Dean

Dave you are absolutely right, I make a much better lurker than
poster. <lol> I envy guys that seem to post long thoughtful replies
at a moments notice. It takes me a long time to post. But that said
what would you suggest? I could make a sock puppet and have a
conversation with myself, but isn't that part of the problem over
here? <lol> But regardless of what happens you are the first person
to register and I thank you for that.

Dean


On Oct 14, 8:42 am, "Dave Milne" >
wrote:
> I don't think it will replace ramjaw - it will always be yet another jeep
> forum. How well is takes off is dependent on how much effort he puts into
> it. Last time I looked there wasn't a single thread started, not even by
> him. So, I looked, and left.
>
> Dave
>