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Old February 2nd 07, 07:00 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
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Ford falls to No. 4 automaker in U.S.

By Jeff Green and Alan Ohnsman
Bloomberg News
Posted February 2 2007

General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co.'s U.S. auto sales plunged in
January as the two U.S. automakers yielded market share while scaling
back on low-profit deliveries to rental-car companies.

Ford sales fell 19 percent, and GM dropped 17 percent, prompting a
deeper cut in GM's North American production. A 9.5 percent gain at
Toyota Motor Corp. and 3.2 percent increase at DaimlerChrysler AG pushed
Ford to No. 4 behind those automakers in the United States for the
second month ever; the first was in November.

"These companies are finally taking the medicine and cutting their sales
to rental-fleet companies," John Casesa, an analyst at Casesa Strategic
Advisors in New York, said in an interview. "These are low-margin sales.
Those cars go to Hertz and Avis, then come back and wind up as used
cars, undermining the selling of new cars."

The January results showed the price in sales and market share that the
biggest U.S. automakers may be willing to pay this year to sustain
profits. Last year, GM and Ford announced plans to close a combined 28
plants and other facilities in North America as they align their
production base with shrinking consumer demand.

Ford said that it sold 166,835 cars and trucks last month.
DaimlerChrysler reported 173,377 vehicles, and Toyota rose to 175,850,
for its 20th consecutive monthly gain. Toyota passed DaimlerChrysler to
become No. 3 in the United States last year, behind GM and Ford.

Honda Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co., the second- and third-biggest
Japanese automakers behind Toyota, also reported sales gains for the
month. Honda was up 2.4 percent to 100,790 vehicles, without adjusting
for one additional selling day last month. Nissan gained 8.9 percent to
82,664.

Hyundai Motor Co., South Korea's largest automaker, reported sales of
27,721 vehicles, down 8.2 percent from a year earlier. Steve Wilhite,
Hyundai's U.S. chief operating officer, said in a statement he was
"disappointed" with the January numbers, down in part on lower than
expected sales in California and in portions of the South.
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Old February 4th 07, 12:19 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
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Default Ford Falls to No. 4 Automaker in U.S.

On Feb 2, 12:00 pm, Joe > wrote:
> Ford falls to No. 4 automaker in U.S.


Ford needs to stop trying to out Japanese the Japanese, and start
building main stream products that have real appeal.

So far, the Edge isn't it and neither is the Fusion. Though the
Fusion will be better this year with the much needed new 3.5 liter 6
under the hood.

Patrick


> By Jeff Green and Alan Ohnsman
> Bloomberg News
> Posted February 2 2007
>
> General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co.'s U.S. auto sales plunged in
> January as the two U.S. automakers yielded market share while scaling
> back on low-profit deliveries to rental-car companies.
>
> Ford sales fell 19 percent, and GM dropped 17 percent, prompting a
> deeper cut in GM's North American production. A 9.5 percent gain at
> Toyota Motor Corp. and 3.2 percent increase at DaimlerChrysler AG pushed
> Ford to No. 4 behind those automakers in the United States for the
> second month ever; the first was in November.
>
> "These companies are finally taking the medicine and cutting their sales
> to rental-fleet companies," John Casesa, an analyst at Casesa Strategic
> Advisors in New York, said in an interview. "These are low-margin sales.
> Those cars go to Hertz and Avis, then come back and wind up as used
> cars, undermining the selling of new cars."
>
> The January results showed the price in sales and market share that the
> biggest U.S. automakers may be willing to pay this year to sustain
> profits. Last year, GM and Ford announced plans to close a combined 28
> plants and other facilities in North America as they align their
> production base with shrinking consumer demand.
>
> Ford said that it sold 166,835 cars and trucks last month.
> DaimlerChrysler reported 173,377 vehicles, and Toyota rose to 175,850,
> for its 20th consecutive monthly gain. Toyota passed DaimlerChrysler to
> become No. 3 in the United States last year, behind GM and Ford.
>
> Honda Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co., the second- and third-biggest
> Japanese automakers behind Toyota, also reported sales gains for the
> month. Honda was up 2.4 percent to 100,790 vehicles, without adjusting
> for one additional selling day last month. Nissan gained 8.9 percent to
> 82,664.
>
> Hyundai Motor Co., South Korea's largest automaker, reported sales of
> 27,721 vehicles, down 8.2 percent from a year earlier. Steve Wilhite,
> Hyundai's U.S. chief operating officer, said in a statement he was
> "disappointed" with the January numbers, down in part on lower than
> expected sales in California and in portions of the South.



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Old February 4th 07, 03:09 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
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Default Ford Falls to No. 4 Automaker in U.S.

I have to say I'm not too surprised.
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Old March 1st 07, 07:00 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
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Default Ford Falls to No. 4 Automaker in U.S.

The problem with Ford sales is a quality/reliability issue. It's to high.
There are only two reasons a Ford owner has for replacing his car, it was
either lost in an accident or because he just wants a nice shiny new car.
Other than the cosmetics, there probably isn't anything wrong with 10-15 or
even 20 year old car he is driving now. (1988 Mustang GT convertible,
bought new, currently with over 275,000 miles on it.)


"Joe" > wrote in message
...
> Ford falls to No. 4 automaker in U.S.
>
> By Jeff Green and Alan Ohnsman
> Bloomberg News
> Posted February 2 2007
>
> General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co.'s U.S. auto sales plunged in
> January as the two U.S. automakers yielded market share while scaling
> back on low-profit deliveries to rental-car companies.
>
> Ford sales fell 19 percent, and GM dropped 17 percent, prompting a
> deeper cut in GM's North American production. A 9.5 percent gain at
> Toyota Motor Corp. and 3.2 percent increase at DaimlerChrysler AG pushed
> Ford to No. 4 behind those automakers in the United States for the
> second month ever; the first was in November.
>
> "These companies are finally taking the medicine and cutting their sales
> to rental-fleet companies," John Casesa, an analyst at Casesa Strategic
> Advisors in New York, said in an interview. "These are low-margin sales.
> Those cars go to Hertz and Avis, then come back and wind up as used
> cars, undermining the selling of new cars."
>
> The January results showed the price in sales and market share that the
> biggest U.S. automakers may be willing to pay this year to sustain
> profits. Last year, GM and Ford announced plans to close a combined 28
> plants and other facilities in North America as they align their
> production base with shrinking consumer demand.
>
> Ford said that it sold 166,835 cars and trucks last month.
> DaimlerChrysler reported 173,377 vehicles, and Toyota rose to 175,850,
> for its 20th consecutive monthly gain. Toyota passed DaimlerChrysler to
> become No. 3 in the United States last year, behind GM and Ford.
>
> Honda Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co., the second- and third-biggest
> Japanese automakers behind Toyota, also reported sales gains for the
> month. Honda was up 2.4 percent to 100,790 vehicles, without adjusting
> for one additional selling day last month. Nissan gained 8.9 percent to
> 82,664.
>
> Hyundai Motor Co., South Korea's largest automaker, reported sales of
> 27,721 vehicles, down 8.2 percent from a year earlier. Steve Wilhite,
> Hyundai's U.S. chief operating officer, said in a statement he was
> "disappointed" with the January numbers, down in part on lower than
> expected sales in California and in portions of the South.



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Old March 1st 07, 09:46 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
BradandBrooks
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Default Ford Falls to No. 4 Automaker in U.S.

Yeah, I would have to agree. My daily driver is a 1980 Bronco. Starts
everytime in the dead of winter. I don't see much jap crap that old on the
road... I wonder where they all are??? Anyone know?

Brad



"Ironrod" > wrote in message
...
> The problem with Ford sales is a quality/reliability issue. It's to high.
> There are only two reasons a Ford owner has for replacing his car, it was
> either lost in an accident or because he just wants a nice shiny new car.
> Other than the cosmetics, there probably isn't anything wrong with 10-15
> or
> even 20 year old car he is driving now. (1988 Mustang GT convertible,
> bought new, currently with over 275,000 miles on it.)
>
>
> "Joe" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ford falls to No. 4 automaker in U.S.
>>
>> By Jeff Green and Alan Ohnsman
>> Bloomberg News
>> Posted February 2 2007
>>
>> General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co.'s U.S. auto sales plunged in
>> January as the two U.S. automakers yielded market share while scaling
>> back on low-profit deliveries to rental-car companies.
>>
>> Ford sales fell 19 percent, and GM dropped 17 percent, prompting a
>> deeper cut in GM's North American production. A 9.5 percent gain at
>> Toyota Motor Corp. and 3.2 percent increase at DaimlerChrysler AG pushed
>> Ford to No. 4 behind those automakers in the United States for the
>> second month ever; the first was in November.
>>
>> "These companies are finally taking the medicine and cutting their sales
>> to rental-fleet companies," John Casesa, an analyst at Casesa Strategic
>> Advisors in New York, said in an interview. "These are low-margin sales.
>> Those cars go to Hertz and Avis, then come back and wind up as used
>> cars, undermining the selling of new cars."
>>
>> The January results showed the price in sales and market share that the
>> biggest U.S. automakers may be willing to pay this year to sustain
>> profits. Last year, GM and Ford announced plans to close a combined 28
>> plants and other facilities in North America as they align their
>> production base with shrinking consumer demand.
>>
>> Ford said that it sold 166,835 cars and trucks last month.
>> DaimlerChrysler reported 173,377 vehicles, and Toyota rose to 175,850,
>> for its 20th consecutive monthly gain. Toyota passed DaimlerChrysler to
>> become No. 3 in the United States last year, behind GM and Ford.
>>
>> Honda Motor Co. and Nissan Motor Co., the second- and third-biggest
>> Japanese automakers behind Toyota, also reported sales gains for the
>> month. Honda was up 2.4 percent to 100,790 vehicles, without adjusting
>> for one additional selling day last month. Nissan gained 8.9 percent to
>> 82,664.
>>
>> Hyundai Motor Co., South Korea's largest automaker, reported sales of
>> 27,721 vehicles, down 8.2 percent from a year earlier. Steve Wilhite,
>> Hyundai's U.S. chief operating officer, said in a statement he was
>> "disappointed" with the January numbers, down in part on lower than
>> expected sales in California and in portions of the South.

>
>



 




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