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Old December 2nd 04, 06:50 PM
Seth Brundle
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Default 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2

I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.

BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
design, and iDrive.

The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.

Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
doesnt bother me.

The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
the HP.

I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.

Anyways - opinions?
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Old December 2nd 04, 07:06 PM
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"Seth Brundle" > wrote
>I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
>
> BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
> design, and iDrive.
>
> The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
> wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
> looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.


And you like the new Audi styling with the big snoz?

> Anyways - opinions?


The latest Car & Driver likes it a lot, but they don't like the sport
suspension.

Floyd

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Old December 2nd 04, 08:10 PM
Tony
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I think that the 130 mph limit is a bit understated. This may be done to keep
the claim within tire speed ratings.

At an on track driving 'school' last spring I was driving a friend's '04 S4 4.2
(which is also supposed to have a limit of 130) and was hitting 150+ on the
straight with a lot of room to go.

Tony

Seth Brundle wrote:

> I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
>
> BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
> design, and iDrive.
>
> The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
> wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
> looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
>
> Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
> doesnt bother me.
>
> The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
> I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
> 540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
> the HP.
>
> I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
> I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
> looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
>
> Anyways - opinions?

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Old December 2nd 04, 09:25 PM
Pete
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"Tony" wrote
> At an on track driving 'school' last spring I was driving a friend's
> '04 S4 4.2 (which is also supposed to have a limit of 130) and was
> hitting 150+ on the straight with a lot of room to go.
>
> Tony


According to the US specs, the S4 is electronically limited to 155 mph.
And of course you can remove that limit by getting an aftermarket
chip/software as well.

Cheers,

Pete




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Old December 2nd 04, 09:45 PM
Ramone Cila
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"Seth Brundle" > wrote in message
om...
> I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
>
> BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
> design, and iDrive.


Fitted similarly, the cars have a difference of 4 or 5 grand. At this price
level that's not much. I-drive isn't an issue unless you make it so. By and
large the magazines are essentially wrong with their reviews of i-drive.
Body design? If you don't like it...don't buy it. I wouldn't buy a car which
I didn't apprciate the exterior styling.

I own a 545i.

> The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
> wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
> looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
>
> Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
> doesnt bother me.


I think differently. I think it is quite nice looking...even the large
grill. Audi is more an "everyman's" car. Caught somewhere between being best
at anything. Reviews say it rides hard....too hard. But I haven't had an
opportunity behind the wheel. though I must say that BMW's compliant yet
gripping ride is one of the things I like most about BMW's in general
regardless of model.

> The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
> I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
> 540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
> the HP.


The 545 has been clocked at 5.3 (Road and Track) to 60 with an auto
tranny...Audi specs 6.3 and 6.1 for the new A6.



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Old December 3rd 04, 12:29 AM
GRL
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It may drive great and you can't tell how ugly it may be from inside, but
remember, every time that you go to drive it you're going to have to look at
it before you get inside.

A great drive is a great drive only while you're driving, but ugly is
forever.

- GRL

"Seth Brundle" > wrote in message
om...
> I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
>
> BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
> design, and iDrive.
>
> The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
> wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
> looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
>
> Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
> doesnt bother me.
>
> The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
> I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
> 540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
> the HP.
>
> I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
> I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
> looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
>
> Anyways - opinions?



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Old December 3rd 04, 04:25 AM
LIW
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For the same money, I bought a used 2002 Audi S8 (like the one in Ronin).
Unbelievable!!! Buy a certified pre-owned, and you'll have a warranty as
well.

"Seth Brundle" > wrote in message
om...
> I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
>
> BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
> design, and iDrive.
>
> The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
> wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
> looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
>
> Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
> doesnt bother me.
>
> The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
> I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
> 540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
> the HP.
>
> I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
> I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
> looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
>
> Anyways - opinions?



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Old December 3rd 04, 11:48 AM
E.R.
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In a previous posting, (Seth Brundle)
had the audacity to say:

:I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
:It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.

They're both very nice cars imo.

:The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'.

I dunno, I think the new 5ers look just fine. But I suppose they
are a bit of an acquired taste.

:The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate,

Yes, but it should be sharkable (once the car is broken in of
course). I agree that governors that artifically limit the top
speed of a very well engineered and capable vehicle are a
terrible thing, just in principle. That the driver may never
intend to drive faster than 110 mph or whatever is beside the
point.

The Euro spec version of that car would probably be restricted
to a much more reasonable 155 mph.

:I think
:I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly.

Probably nothing reckless about that, those are very capable and
well handling cars. When one drives a superior quality vehicle,
one doesn't notice the speed as much. 130 mph in your 540 would
probably feel more sedate and planted than 90 mph in my old (no
longer driven) Grand Scam...

:I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
:I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
:looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.

Audis aren't fun? I thought they were trying to copy BMW in
every way these days.

--
E.R. aka SJG aka Ricardo
present location: vancouver bc canada
refugee from the european union's evil bureaucracy
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Old December 3rd 04, 03:39 PM
Charlie Giannetto
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In article >, Pete > wrote:
>
>"Tony" wrote
>> At an on track driving 'school' last spring I was driving a friend's
>> '04 S4 4.2 (which is also supposed to have a limit of 130) and was
>> hitting 150+ on the straight with a lot of room to go.
>>
>> Tony

>
>According to the US specs, the S4 is electronically limited to 155 mph.
>And of course you can remove that limit by getting an aftermarket
>chip/software as well.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Pete


Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
US S4 is on paper only (not actually turned on in the ECU software),
according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
could actually reach that speed).

- Charlie
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Old December 3rd 04, 04:07 PM
Fred W
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GRL wrote:
> It may drive great and you can't tell how ugly it may be from inside, but
> remember, every time that you go to drive it you're going to have to look at
> it before you get inside.
>
> A great drive is a great drive only while you're driving, but ugly is
> forever.
>
> - GRL


Pshaa! When most people are concerned about these cars' supposed
"ugliness", what they are really concerned about is what other people
will think about the car when they drive by in it.

I, on the other hand, never actually drive my cars. I just go out to
the garage and look at them, so their beautiful design is of utmost
importance to me... (not!!) ;-)

-Fred W
 




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