CJ-7 Key wont turn all the way

Ok gang,
I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up somehow.
Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get at
the rod that turns inside the column?

Thanks

Stupid question I know, but did you try shooting some ZEP-45 or even some
WD-40 into it in case it's gunked up?


"Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
...
Ok gang,
I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up somehow.
Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get at
the rod that turns inside the column?

Thanks

Kate wrote:
> Stupid question I know, but did you try shooting some ZEP-45 or even
> some WD-40 into it in case it's gunked up?
>
>
> "Jo Baggs" wrote ...
> Ok gang,
> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to
> the first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start
> detent. It almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is
> jammed up somehow. Anyone have instructions on how to install a new
> key cylinder and/or get at the rod that turns inside the column?

Might give this a shot. It's not the best writeup but should get
you there.
http://www.epiccomputer.com/dale/jee...tilt/tilt.html

--
DougW

"DougW" > wrote in message
...
> Kate wrote:
>> Stupid question I know, but did you try shooting some ZEP-45 or even
>> some WD-40 into it in case it's gunked up?
>>
>>
>> "Jo Baggs" wrote ...
>> Ok gang,
>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to
>> the first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start
>> detent. It almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is
>> jammed up somehow. Anyone have instructions on how to install a new
>> key cylinder and/or get at the rod that turns inside the column?
>
> Might give this a shot. It's not the best writeup but should get
> you there.
> http://www.epiccomputer.com/dale/jee...tilt/tilt.html
>
> --
> DougW

Doug, Thanks. Looks like this job is going to be a tough one as I don't
have any of the pullers in the article.

Kate, I'm pretty sure this goes beyond a squirt of WD-40, but I'll give it a
try.

Thanks.

The switch is down at the bottom of the column, maybe it came loose or
the rod popped there?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

Jo Baggs wrote:
> Ok gang,
> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up somehow.
> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get at
> the rod that turns inside the column?
>
> Thanks
>
>

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
. com...
> The switch is down at the bottom of the column, maybe it came loose or
> the rod popped there?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
>
> Jo Baggs wrote:
>> Ok gang,
>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up
>> somehow.
>> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get
>> at
>> the rod that turns inside the column?
>>
>> Thanks

Mike,
is the rod accessible at the bottom of the column?

"Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> . com...
>> The switch is down at the bottom of the column, maybe it came loose or
>> the rod popped there?
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
>> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
>>
>> Jo Baggs wrote:
>>> Ok gang,
>>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
>>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
>>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up
>>> somehow.
>>> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get
>>> at
>>> the rod that turns inside the column?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
> Mike,
> is the rod accessible at the bottom of the column?

Kate, I squirted some PB blaster in the cylinder. They key turns much
easier, but no cigar. It still wont hit the next detent.

Just to clarify, it will hit the accessory detent (counter clockwise) but
something prevents it from hitting the first detent clockwise. It just jams
up and wont turn any more.

I was thinking; instead of tearing the column apart, why don't I throw in a
couple of Solenoid switches. One switch to arm the ignition and another
starter switch.

Does anyone know which terminal does what on the starter solenoid (on the
passenger fenderwell)?

Thanks

Yes, the ignition switch and rod are accessible down at the bottom. The
ignition switch down there is also adjustable so it may just have come
loose.

Unfortunately your steering is now locked so you can't just jump start
it, well you can, but you are only going to go one way, the way the
wheels point now...

Bill did have a point, your front wheels aren't jammed up against a curb
are they? That 'can' lock the keyswitch up... It has happened to me
more than once....

Mike

Jo Baggs wrote:
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> . com...
>> The switch is down at the bottom of the column, maybe it came loose or
>> the rod popped there?
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
>> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
>>
>> Jo Baggs wrote:
>>> Ok gang,
>>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
>>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
>>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up
>>> somehow.
>>> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get
>>> at
>>> the rod that turns inside the column?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
> Mike,
> is the rod accessible at the bottom of the column?
>
>

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
. com...
> Yes, the ignition switch and rod are accessible down at the bottom. The
> ignition switch down there is also adjustable so it may just have come
> loose.
>
> Unfortunately your steering is now locked so you can't just jump start
> it, well you can, but you are only going to go one way, the way the
> wheels point now...
>
> Bill did have a point, your front wheels aren't jammed up against a curb
> are they? That 'can' lock the keyswitch up... It has happened to me
> more than once....
>
> Mike
>
> Jo Baggs wrote:
>> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
>> . com...
>>> The switch is down at the bottom of the column, maybe it came loose or
>>> the rod popped there?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
>>> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
>>>
>>> Jo Baggs wrote:
>>>> Ok gang,
>>>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
>>>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent.
>>>> It
>>>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up
>>>> somehow.
>>>> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or
>>>> get
>>>> at
>>>> the rod that turns inside the column?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>
>> Mike,
>> is the rod accessible at the bottom of the column?

Mike,
the steering is not locked !!! The key will turn enough to unlock the
wheel. However, it stops turning just before the clockwise accessory
position. In other words, the steering wheel unlocks, but I cant turn on my
radio. So even if I jump start it, I doubt the engine will turn over as
there is no power to the ignition system. Thoughts.

well since you follow bill around like your a puppy dog and bills got
a pork chop tied around his neck i guess your the one thats got the
crush on bill hows that pink boy



Pink ? Freud > wrote:

>On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 00:03:53 -0800, Superman Hughes TrollKiller of scums
>24bit & squarewheel wrote:
>
>> Oops,
>
>You really say that a lot, don't you, Billieboi?
>
>
>> I didn't see this was the scumbag draft dodger
>
>TGSO?
>
>> mikey strainic,
>
>Who IS he, anyway, Cooyon? Besides someone else you seem to have a crush
>on, I mean.
>
>
>> the
>> coward:
>
>TSGO again?
>
>
>> hiding at:
>
>
>Who the hell is hiding, Fatboi?
>
>It's YOU that never leaves the house unescorted.
>
>It's YOU that's being monitored 24/7.
>
>It's YOU with the restraining orders on you.
>
>It's YOU that can only travel certain limited places.
>
>It's YOU that isn't allowed within 1000 yards of certain public places
>where children may be present.
>
>YOU would LOVE to hide.
>
>But they won't let you.
>
>
>
>> 24.86.25.219 in Vancouver.
>
>An IP HUB which routes tens of thousands of Shaw accounts both north and
>east, in an ever-expanding market.
>
>You are SO incredibly st00pit.
>
>
>> God Bless My Lying Ass, Bill O|||||||O
>
>Won't help ya Billieboi, not a bit.
>
>She's gonna fry your ass for Eternity.
>
>And with all that lard you carry around, you're gonna make one hell of a
>Pork Rind.
>
>It'll feed the 5000 to the Nth Power. How fitting.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm
>>
>> "Throntum Mechanic" > wrote in message
>> newsan.2009.03.22.06.11.23.776918@pun_undeviated _septum2_64575131106459059050161575363924592010688 23230284361061506457833849746309574352988862721478 44273905558801077227171507297283238922996895948650 8726070097805420372382mucus_and_dust...
>>> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:45:15 -0800, L.W.(ßill The Village Idiot) Hughes
>>> III stumbled again when he wrote:
>>>
>>> > Jo,
>>> > If you have a front wheel up against a curb or something that won't
>> move,
>>> > turn the steering wheel as hard as you can in that direction, (may
>>> > take Steve) then turn on the ignition key releasing the lock.
>>>
>>> Hey dumbo,
>>>
>>> All you have to do is press hard on the foot brake and do the same
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> And it's possible the wheels are already turned to one side.
>>>
>>> Do back to your antique <Real Jeeps> that you still remember something
>>> about.
>>>
>>> In fact, start your own illiterate group for <Real Jeeps> only. You
>>> won't get much traffic, but at least you'll know a little something
>>> about the topic.
>>>
>>> You just have no relevance here anymore -- and that is the polite
>>> version.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Mechanic
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> >
>>> > http://www.billhughes.com/jeep_bookmark.htm
>>> >
>>> > "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
>>> > ...
>>> >>
>>> >> "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
>>> >> > . com...
>>> >> >> The switch is down at the bottom of the column, maybe it came
>>> >> >> loose or the rod popped there?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Mike
>>> >> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> >> >> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip
>>> >> >> and Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Jo Baggs wrote:
>>> >> >>> Ok gang,
>>> >> >>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned
>>> >> >>> to
>>> > the
>>> >> >>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start
>>> >> >>> detent.
>>> > It
>>> >> >>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed
>>> >> >>> up somehow.
>>> >> >>> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder
>>> >> >>> and/or
>>> > get
>>> >> >>> at
>>> >> >>> the rod that turns inside the column?
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Thanks
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Mike,
>>> >> > is the rod accessible at the bottom of the column?
>>> >>
>>> >> Kate, I squirted some PB blaster in the cylinder. They key turns
>>> >> much easier, but no cigar. It still wont hit the next detent.
>>> >>
>>> >> Just to clarify, it will hit the accessory detent (counter
>>> >> clockwise) but something prevents it from hitting the first detent
>>> >> clockwise. It just
>>> > jams
>>> >> up and wont turn any more.
>>> >>
>>> >> I was thinking; instead of tearing the column apart, why don't I
>>> >> throw in
>>> > a
>>> >> couple of Solenoid switches. One switch to arm the ignition and
>>> >> another starter switch.
>>> >>
>>> >> Does anyone know which terminal does what on the starter solenoid
>>> >> (on the passenger fenderwell)?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>