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CJ-7 Key wont turn all the way
"Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message ... > > "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Ok gang, >>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the >>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It >>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up >>> somehow. Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder >>> and/or get at the rod that turns inside the column? >>> >>> Thanks >> >> Ok, I'm at a loss. I tried to check on the rod at the end of the >> steering column (Where the rod goes into the electrical block at lower >> end of column) First, How do I get the block off (if it even comes off) >> and what exactly am I looking for to see if the rod is lined up properly? >> The rod does move back and forth when the key is turned counter and >> clockwise. As you recall, it will not turn all the way forward to the >> ignition on detent. >> >> Does anyone have a schematic? >> >> Lastly, is it possible to put a switch on the starter solenoid; one for >> Acc on and another for the Starter. I think that would be much easier >> than taking apart the column. Of course, I need someone to tell me which >> solenoid terminal does what. >> >> Thanks >> > > The ignition switch is held on with a single 5/16-head screw (one of those > self-tapping, sheep metal screws). > > Personally, I do not think the switch itself is the problem. You'd be > lucky if it was. I think the linkage between the ignition lockset and the > ignition switch has broken. > > The rod only fits one way. It comes straight down the side of the steering > column and has a 90-degree bend at the very end that fits into a slot on > the switch. The switch has detents for each position, except START, where > it has a spring loaded return to the ON position. Thanks Jeff. I'm off to take the thing apart. I'll let you know what I find. |
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CJ-7 Key wont turn all the way
"Jo Baggs" > wrote in message ... > Ok gang, > I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the > first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It > almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up somehow. > Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get > at the rod that turns inside the column? > > Thanks I need a best guess here; should I start at the ignition switch (at the bottom of the column) or should I start pulling the steering wheel, lock plate, turn signal, etc apart? Given that the key does turn a little, which way should I go? |
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CJ-7 Key wont turn all the way
im surprised that the coward trolls 24butt and punk fraud and williams nemesissy and cujoke havent jumped on this thread yet maybe its because their clearly defeated having been outed as queer punks they know they cant refute hughes because he gives actual advice instead of sniping and flaming i know punk fraud cant help flaming because hes funny like a three dollar bill but still |
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CJ-7 Key wont turn all the way
"Jo Baggs" > wrote in message ... > Ok gang, > I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the > first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It > almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up somehow. > Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get > at the rod that turns inside the column? > > Thanks Update. I checked the ignition switch (at bottom of column). I took it off the column and the rod was free from the switch. I turned the key and...same problem. Key only turns just shy of accessory on position. So, put back on the ignition switch (not fun with column still attached). Now time to tear apart steering wheel, lock plate, turn signal, etc. I got the key cylinder out (what a pain in the ass to wiggle that little lock key. There is no lock screw, only a lock tab). With the key cylinder out, I put the key in and turn it...it only turns about 3/4". So, I guess the key cylinder went bad. Anyone know of a good key cylinder that will last about 50 years so I never have to tackle this miserable problem again? Thanks |
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CJ-7 Key wont turn all the way
"Jo Baggs" > wrote in message ... > > "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message > ... >> Ok gang, >> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the >> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It >> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up >> somehow. Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder >> and/or get at the rod that turns inside the column? >> >> Thanks > > Update. I checked the ignition switch (at bottom of column). I took it > off the column and the rod was free from the switch. I turned the key > and...same problem. Key only turns just shy of accessory on position. > So, put back on the ignition switch (not fun with column still attached). > Now time to tear apart steering wheel, lock plate, turn signal, etc. I > got the key cylinder out (what a pain in the ass to wiggle that little > lock key. There is no lock screw, only a lock tab). With the key cylinder > out, I put the key in and turn it...it only turns about 3/4". So, I guess > the key cylinder went bad. > > Anyone know of a good key cylinder that will last about 50 years so I > never have to tackle this miserable problem again? > > Thanks The chances of finding a key lock cylinder that will last 50 years is about the same as finding a slim good looking girl who is rich and can have 4 kids and still look the same after 25 years of marriage...like finding a winning loto ticket in the street...slim chance but not impossible. I would settle for a used but totally tricked out wrangler that is being sold by a woman for 100 dollars because her husband ran off with his girlfriend. Now that would be a find use a little lube on the lock cylinder once in a while and that will improve its longevity. > |
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CJ-7 Key wont turn all the way
"Jo Baggs" > wrote in message ... > Ok gang, > I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the > first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It > almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up somehow. > Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get > at the rod that turns inside the column? > > Thanks Ok, so I bought a new cylinder, installed it, and everything is fine now. Total cost with Steering wheel puller and lock plate release tool and new cylinder...about $100. My guess is that's a whole lot better than dropping it off at the Jeep dealer. Thanks for everyone's help. Jo |
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CJ-7 Key wont turn all the way
"Jo Baggs" > wrote in message ... > > "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message > ... >> Ok gang, >> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the >> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It >> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up >> somehow. Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder >> and/or get at the rod that turns inside the column? >> >> Thanks > > Ok, so I bought a new cylinder, installed it, and everything is fine now. > Total cost with Steering wheel puller and lock plate release tool and new > cylinder...about $100. My guess is that's a whole lot better than > dropping it off at the Jeep dealer. Thanks for everyone's help. > > Jo > So, the lockset itself was broken? I woulda guessed the linkage. |
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CJ-7 Key wont turn all the way
"Jeff Strickland" > wrote in message
... > > "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message > ... >> >> "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message >> ... >>> Ok gang, >>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the >>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It >>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up >>> somehow. Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder >>> and/or get at the rod that turns inside the column? >>> >>> Thanks >> >> Ok, so I bought a new cylinder, installed it, and everything is fine now. >> Total cost with Steering wheel puller and lock plate release tool and new >> cylinder...about $100. My guess is that's a whole lot better than >> dropping it off at the Jeep dealer. Thanks for everyone's help. >> >> Jo >> > > So, the lockset itself was broken? I woulda guessed the linkage. > > > > > > > That's the second one of these I've seen in like a month where it was the lock cylinder rather than the rack. That's the only reason I was thinking "lock cylinder" when I saw the op. -- Old Crow '82 FLTC(P) 'Mistress Pearl' '87 FLTC 'Crosseyed Mary' '61 F-100 BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, SLOB#13, MAMBM |
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CJ-7 Key wont turn all the way
Old Crow wrote:
> "Jeff Strickland" wrote... >> "Jo Baggs" wrote ... >>> "Jo Baggs" wrote... >>>> Ok gang, >>>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned >>>> to the first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine >>>> start detent. It almost feels like the rod inside the steering >>>> column is jammed up somehow. Anyone have instructions on how to >>>> install a new key cylinder and/or get at the rod that turns inside >>>> the column? >>> Ok, so I bought a new cylinder, installed it, and everything is >>> fine now. Total cost with Steering wheel puller and lock plate >>> release tool and new cylinder...about $100. My guess is that's a >>> whole lot better than dropping it off at the Jeep dealer. Thanks >>> for everyone's help. >> So, the lockset itself was broken? I woulda guessed the linkage. > That's the second one of these I've seen in like a month where it was > the lock cylinder rather than the rack. That's the only reason I was > thinking "lock cylinder" when I saw the op. Got me wondering what is failing in the cylinder. Some had a cast tab on the back that wore out or sheared if it was turned against a locked steering wheel. -- DougW |
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CJ-7 Key wont turn all the way
"Glenn news" > wrote use a little lube on the lock cylinder once in a while and that will improve its longevity. > Also, do not carry a big ring of keys. Keep your keyring light, just a couple of keys (1 house, 2 Jeep) and a fob if you must. The weight of heavy keyrings has been the death of many ignition locks. K. |
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