iRacing... help... must... resist!

"Larry" > wrote in :

>
> If you pay $20 for say rFactor, then try to sell it, someone might
> take it off your hands for $2. And we won't get into the copy
> protection/online activation issues that would crop up.

You can buy rFactor boxed version for twenty bucks at WalMart. Boxed
version requires no activation.

Don't forget, when you subscribe you get iRacing $$$ to spend. If you sign
up for a year you get $60, and that will buy you 4 cars (IIRC @ $15 each).
Or a car or two and a track or two. I think tracks are $15 to $25.

I don't think monthly gets you much in the way of iRacing $$$ though, so
after the first month it's best to either do it or not and go for the year.
It's only $13 a month for full year plus you get the $60 in iRacing $$$.

Typically you should have raced your way OUT of the Solstice and Legends
cars by then, and ready to spend your $60 iRacing dollars on the cars for
the next level.

There is a method to the madness

-Larry

"Andrew MacPherson" > wrote in message
ddress_disguised...
> (Tony R) wrote:
>
>> The only thing I would stress is that driving the
>> Solstice alone does not do it justice.
>
> Which is part of my frustration with the project. In order to have a
> decent drive, the first thing I'd need to do is fork out some more money
> over and above the basic package. Whether that's fair or not is neither
> here nor there... iRacing is a commercial product after all, and who am I
> to tell them how to run their business? But this kind of approach just
> rubs me up the wrong way, making me less likely to take a chance.
>
> In time I may mellow though. The trouble with strongly held viewpoints is
> they require effort to maintain, and I don't have all the energy I used
> to. :-)
>
> Andrew McP
>

Missed my point. You still can't sell it for much later on.

-Larry

"Guy de Montmorency-Laval" > wrote in message
news:O0Gdk.70020$Jx.69636@pd7urf1no...
> "Larry" > wrote in :
>
>>
>> If you pay $20 for say rFactor, then try to sell it, someone might
>> take it off your hands for $2. And we won't get into the copy
>> protection/online activation issues that would crop up.
>
> You can buy rFactor boxed version for twenty bucks at WalMart. Boxed
> version requires no activation.

On Jul 10, 2:37*pm, (Andrew
MacPherson) wrote:
>
> I think that would be a brilliant step forward eventually. However I do
> think, on reflection, that where we're going wrong is not taking iRacing
> seriously enough. It is not -- as we've been told countless times before
> -- intended for the casual gaming market... and that includes most of us
> these days, no matter how much we might like to think we're still
> hardcore future champions. :-)
>
> Andrew McP

I agree with you 100%. I share your view that they are taking this
very seriously. Unfortunately, I think that is why it may ultimately
have to become more of a stand alone product, or fail. I don't think
they will ever get the numbers of subscribers they need @ $15 USD a
month to support further development.

"Larry" > wrote in news
> Missed my point. You still can't sell it for much later on.
>
> -Larry

Why would I want to? I have both Trymedia and boxed version (came with
TrackIR) of rFactor and have no intention to sell either.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:57:02 -0400, Larry wrote:
> Missed my point. You still can't sell it for much later on.
>

But I can n0t haz a box on my shelf added to my collection of sim
titles (lolcat speak intended ;-), re-install it three years down the
road when the mood strikes me, all that. Not possible with iR in its
current state (ok, I got the "thank you" stickers for the beta test,
but well, would you stick them on a 10 year old Ford Mondeo hatchback?
;-)

I don't consider this an investment like owning n2k3 turned out to be,
but I'm just "licensing stuff" which will be taken away from me the
minute my subscription runs out. Granted it's there when I choose to
sign up again, but somehow that's just not the same as having a nice
DVD case to look at and to dust off every once in a while.

Uwe


--

hoover wrote:

> I don't consider this an investment like owning n2k3 turned out to be,
> but I'm just "licensing stuff" which will be taken away from me the
> minute my subscription runs out. Granted it's there when I choose to
> sign up again, but somehow that's just not the same as having a nice
> DVD case to look at and to dust off every once in a while.

I guess like album covers will become a thing of the past...

On the investment side I think the opposite, NR2003 didn't have the
ongoing development that iRacing will have. Once the boxed product hits
the shelf who knows what project the developers will work on next and
what deal will be struck with publishers. iRacing feels like getting on
board with the developers and a long term relationship building between
sim racers and a development team. I guess only time will tell.

Cheers
Tony

"Larry" > wrote in message
...
> Don't forget, when you subscribe you get iRacing $$$ to spend. If you
> sign up for a year you get $60, and that will buy you 4 cars (IIRC @ $15
> each). Or a car or two and a track or two. I think tracks are $15 to $25.
>
> I don't think monthly gets you much in the way of iRacing $$$ though, so
> after the first month it's best to either do it or not and go for the
> year. It's only $13 a month for full year plus you get the $60 in iRacing
> $$$.
>
> Typically you should have raced your way OUT of the Solstice and Legends
> cars by then, and ready to spend your $60 iRacing dollars on the cars for
> the next level.
>
> There is a method to the madness
>
> -Larry
>

Yes there is a method to the madness..... it's called trying to turn a
profit.

--

Someone should also mention that if iRacing ISN'T there anymore......
your stuff aint there anymore either!

It's like a speculation investment


"hoover" > wrote in message
e...
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:57:02 -0400, Larry wrote:
>> Missed my point. You still can't sell it for much later on.
>>
>
> But I can n0t haz a box on my shelf added to my collection of sim
> titles (lolcat speak intended ;-), re-install it three years down the
> road when the mood strikes me, all that. Not possible with iR in its
> current state (ok, I got the "thank you" stickers for the beta test,
> but well, would you stick them on a 10 year old Ford Mondeo hatchback?
> ;-)
>
> I don't consider this an investment like owning n2k3 turned out to be,
> but I'm just "licensing stuff" which will be taken away from me the
> minute my subscription runs out. Granted it's there when I choose to
> sign up again, but somehow that's just not the same as having a nice
> DVD case to look at and to dust off every once in a while.
>
> Uwe
>
>
> --

(0-0-0-0-0) wrote:

> Yes there is a method to the madness..... it's called
> trying to turn a profit.

To be fair that's hardly a crime. Without profit there's no product. The
hard part for them is finding a balance which will draw in enough people
to make the product work for he long term, not just a year or two while
the top end enthusiasts are eager to support the current price structure.

I'm fairly sure they will eventually have to work out a two-tier system
which allows cheaper, mass access to open servers. Then you can build up
a big pool from which drivers can be inspired to pay more to join the
serious racers.

At this stage though that won't be important to iRacing, because they'll
still be living off the development capital.

Andrew McP