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  #21  
Old August 4th 07, 09:31 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
Tim Wheatley
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On Aug 4, 11:28 am, "schooner" > wrote:
> I've yet to get an email update that is even related to the sim itself, most
> all are about marketing deals and on track racing and sponsors. There is
> never nay news on the status of the sim it seems.


The last update mentioned that the Pontiac Solstice would be in the
sim. But yes I agree that most updates are not concentrated solely on
the sim, I wasn't aware iRacing had an agreement with you on what had
to be mentioned in updates.

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  #22  
Old August 4th 07, 09:54 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
schooner
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Sigh, no they don't have an agreement to tell me Tim, was just a comment on
the lack of information seen by a potential customer. Perhaps taking such
comments and using them in a constructive way for the next update would be
an idea, instead of trying to be a smart ass.

"Tim Wheatley" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Aug 4, 11:28 am, "schooner" > wrote:
>> I've yet to get an email update that is even related to the sim itself,
>> most
>> all are about marketing deals and on track racing and sponsors. There is
>> never nay news on the status of the sim it seems.

>
> The last update mentioned that the Pontiac Solstice would be in the
> sim. But yes I agree that most updates are not concentrated solely on
> the sim, I wasn't aware iRacing had an agreement with you on what had
> to be mentioned in updates.
>



  #23  
Old August 4th 07, 10:10 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
Tim Wheatley
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> an idea, instead of trying to be a smart ass.

Excuse me? I wasn't even trying. The simple fact is that if iRacing is
spending it's time marketing to the real racing world right now, what
does that matter? We all know that simracers will try any sim said to
be decent enough (people keep trying the same arcade games, time after
time, hoping for improvement), but a lot of real racers and teams need
a lot of persuasion to see racing sims as anything more than games.

  #24  
Old August 4th 07, 10:20 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
schooner
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Well thanks for the confirmation at least that iRacing doesn't really care
for the sim community.
I guess we will buy/try anything so why bother even keeping them in the loop
eh?

All I was looking for was some sort of update on the status of the SIM side
of the business but apparently that is asking too much. Great attitude BTW.

"Tim Wheatley" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> an idea, instead of trying to be a smart ass.

>
> Excuse me? I wasn't even trying. The simple fact is that if iRacing is
> spending it's time marketing to the real racing world right now, what
> does that matter? We all know that simracers will try any sim said to
> be decent enough (people keep trying the same arcade games, time after
> time, hoping for improvement), but a lot of real racers and teams need
> a lot of persuasion to see racing sims as anything more than games.
>



  #25  
Old August 4th 07, 10:36 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
schooner
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"Tim Wheatley" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Aug 4, 8:34 am, "==--==" > wrote:
>> Tim Wheatley" > wrote in message
>>
>> ups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> >> Don't you mean " if" it gets here?
>> >> Sheese, I mean how long have they been talking about this now?

>>
>> >> --
>> >> Don

>>
>> > About as long as most developers do.

>>
>> > I recently started playing a space game (another genre I like other
>> > than racing simulations) that was 6 years in the making - and the
>> > developers still plan to update it over the next few years.

>>
>> > If you ask any developer to start from near zero and produce a title
>> > (of any sort) I'm sure they can get you a racing game pretty quick,
>> > but it takes a lot longer to create an accurate simulation. I would
>> > have thought more of you would have the knowledge and experience to
>> > realise that things sometimes take time.

>>
>> > To even question whether the product is an "if" is just silly.

>>
>> LOL - C'mon..... "starting from near zero" ????
>> iRacing is NR2003+
>>
>> There was no starting from zero. Hell, if they were half as smart as
>> expected....
>> they would take NR2003, then decompile (not that it's necessary) rFactor
>> and
>> make a combination of the two. Seems to me that iRacing has spent all
>> their
>> time and money on "GPS'ing the proposed tracks" Anyway... it's
>> mostly forgotten from my point of view.
>>
>>

>
> That was kind of a silly post, too. :-)



Hunh. Odd since the iRacing FAQ seems to imply otherwise:

"09. Is this a mod of NASCAR Racing: 2003 Season?
No. We used the NR2003 code as a starting point, taking advantage of its
greatest strengths, such as the net code, which allows full fields of
drivers to race online in real time, and the replay system, which enables
drivers to review their on-track performance. But every major section of the
code has substantially improved for the iRacing.com simulation, and large
portions are all new."

Seems to me that implies that NR2003 code was the starting point is some
form at least and iRacing is not a clean slate starting codebase.


  #26  
Old August 4th 07, 11:07 PM posted to rec.autos.simulators
GaryP
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Not hard at all Tim, to be honest I assumed there were a large number
of volunteers either more qualified or, more likely, quicker on the
draw than I was. My main point is that more regular updates would be a
good idea (IMHO). I'd love to get some banter going on a couple of the
Porsche Racing forum sites I frequent but not until there is something
to actually talk about.

GP

>On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 20:29:57 -0000, Tim Wheatley > wrote:
>On Aug 4, 10:57 am, GaryP > wrote:
>> Tim -
>>
>> I'm sure it will be a fine sim when it arrives but those of us that
>> have registered on the site for updates and are serious about
>> (possibly) becoming part of this need more frequent updates, even if
>> they are minor ones. Posting here is nice, but if someone has signed
>> up and given you the info called for then they should get more than
>> one update every few months just to keep the interest going and the
>> word out IMHO.
>>
>> Me, I live 45 minutes from Limerock and run there about 15-20 times
>> per year. Sure would have been nice to know about iRacing's presence
>> there ahead of time...
>>
>> Still looking forward to the sim.
>> Gary P.

>
>I understand that it might be hard to see why you weren't added to the
>current testers Gary. I used to be the one taking those emails (I'm
>not anymore), but I do remember sending you an email saying you'd been
>added to the waiting list (which is huge) only. If you haven't been
>called upon yet, it's not actually that surprising.

  #27  
Old August 5th 07, 01:07 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
Tim Wheatley
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I don't think I'm the one writing with attitude, I don't know you from
Adam so why would I care?

Let's quote from my own post: "marketing to the real racing world
right now"... Do you read "right now" or not? I didn't confirm a damn
thing like you suggest and it's extremely rude of you to suggest as
such.

A lot of people here seem perfectly able to answer their own questions
even if they're wrong. If you thought you were lacking information you
found a great way to kick the guy who WAS trying to help you get it.

Tim.

  #28  
Old August 5th 07, 01:10 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
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"Tim Wheatley" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Aug 4, 8:34 am, "==--==" > wrote:
>> Tim Wheatley" > wrote in message
>>
>> ups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> >> Don't you mean " if" it gets here?
>> >> Sheese, I mean how long have they been talking about this now?

>>
>> >> --
>> >> Don

>>
>> > About as long as most developers do.

>>
>> > I recently started playing a space game (another genre I like other
>> > than racing simulations) that was 6 years in the making - and the
>> > developers still plan to update it over the next few years.

>>
>> > If you ask any developer to start from near zero and produce a title
>> > (of any sort) I'm sure they can get you a racing game pretty quick,
>> > but it takes a lot longer to create an accurate simulation. I would
>> > have thought more of you would have the knowledge and experience to
>> > realise that things sometimes take time.

>>
>> > To even question whether the product is an "if" is just silly.

>>
>> LOL - C'mon..... "starting from near zero" ????
>> iRacing is NR2003+
>>
>> There was no starting from zero. Hell, if they were half as smart as
>> expected....
>> they would take NR2003, then decompile (not that it's necessary) rFactor
>> and
>> make a combination of the two. Seems to me that iRacing has spent all
>> their
>> time and money on "GPS'ing the proposed tracks" Anyway... it's
>> mostly forgotten from my point of view.
>>
>>

>
> That was kind of a silly post, too. :-)
>


How so?

It doesn't seem as silly as someone posting what you posted!! A "statement"
of dispute with ZERO facts or even theory to back up your "statement".

I've read that iRacing is USING NR2003 code as their base. If you know
different, I'm sure we would all be interested in hearing.

Otherwise --- you just qualitfy as a "fan-boi"




  #29  
Old August 5th 07, 01:15 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
Tim Wheatley
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> Otherwise --- you just qualitfy as a "fan-boi"
>


Obviously that's all then. c ya.

Tim.

  #30  
Old August 5th 07, 01:26 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
Tim Wheatley
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On Aug 4, 5:07 pm, GaryP > wrote:
> Not hard at allTim, to be honest I assumed there were a large number
> of volunteers either more qualified or, more likely, quicker on the
> draw than I was. My main point is that more regular updates would be a
> good idea (IMHO). I'd love to get some banter going on a couple of the
> Porsche Racing forum sites I frequent but not until there is something
> to actually talk about.
>
> GP


That's understandable Gary, I agree it may seem like more information
is needed, but I don't think the timing is right yet to advertise
within certain communities. I hope I didn't appear with attitude to
you, at least, but if I did I apologise. Anyway, hopefully see you on
the track soon, somewhere. I have resigned myself from posting here
now, I get bitten too often... lol I use my real email on this profile
though if you want contact anytime.

Cheers,

Tim.

 




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