Previous Owner Syndrome

Interesting... something I hadn't noticed before. I was going over the
wiring diagram for my '66 Beetle, and I noticed that the front turn signal
assemblies are not wired to have a parking/running light them, yes I know
that there is the parking/running light in the headlight assembly. They
look like they were meant to only have a single filament bulb for turn
signals only.

HOWEVER, my '66 is currently wired for a running light in the turn signal
assembly, and yes it does have an 1157 (twin filament) bulb in the holder,
so it has both turn signal and running light. The little light in the
headlight assembly is always on when the lights are on. Funny thing is -
that when I pull the headlight switch all the way out, the running lights in
the turn signal assembly go out. Also I would have to pull the light switch
to the paking lights position before the engine would start. Somebody wired
the ignition wrong!!!

My point?

Two words. Previous Owner. It just goes to show you that you never know
what you are getting when buying an old car. Previous owner syndrome lasts
long after the ink has dried on the title after you buy it!

My other point? Well, I bought a new '66 wiring harness for my car.
Again, however, I will have to make modifications to it, as I am not going
with a generator, but with an alternator, and it will be 12 volt not 6 volt.
This in it self requires certain modifications. Yes this will be a
modification to the way it came from the factory, however if it is done
right then the previous owner syndrome is not repeated per say. Usually
crappy mods are associated with previous owner syndrome. Especially when it
come wiring issues, most VW's wiring harness are hacked up and patched
beyond belief, and the results are lots of questions here. Hopefully the
weather gets nicer soon so I can completely rewire my car. Not a real
difficult job, but one that needs to be done right. I will try to get good
pics before and after, so stay tuned.

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dragenwagen
1966 Type I
http://www.ramva.org/dragenwagen
"Old VW"s don't leak oil, they mark their territory."
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In article >,
"dragenwagen" > wrote:

> Interesting... something I hadn't noticed before. I was going over the
> wiring diagram for my '66 Beetle, and I noticed that the front turn signal
> assemblies are not wired to have a parking/running light them, yes I know
> that there is the parking/running light in the headlight assembly. They
> look like they were meant to only have a single filament bulb for turn
> signals only.
>
> HOWEVER, my '66 is currently wired for a running light in the turn signal
> assembly, and yes it does have an 1157 (twin filament) bulb in the holder,
> so it has both turn signal and running light. The little light in the
> headlight assembly is always on when the lights are on. Funny thing is -
> that when I pull the headlight switch all the way out, the running lights in
> the turn signal assembly go out. Also I would have to pull the light switch
> to the paking lights position before the engine would start. Somebody wired
> the ignition wrong!!!
>
> My point?
>
> Two words. Previous Owner. It just goes to show you that you never know
> what you are getting when buying an old car. Previous owner syndrome lasts
> long after the ink has dried on the title after you buy it!
>
> My other point? Well, I bought a new '66 wiring harness for my car.
> Again, however, I will have to make modifications to it, as I am not going
> with a generator, but with an alternator, and it will be 12 volt not 6 volt.
> This in it self requires certain modifications. Yes this will be a
> modification to the way it came from the factory, however if it is done
> right then the previous owner syndrome is not repeated per say. Usually
> crappy mods are associated with previous owner syndrome. Especially when it
> come wiring issues, most VW's wiring harness are hacked up and patched
> beyond belief, and the results are lots of questions here. Hopefully the
> weather gets nicer soon so I can completely rewire my car. Not a real
> difficult job, but one that needs to be done right. I will try to get good
> pics before and after, so stay tuned.
>
> vwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvw
> dragenwagen
> 1966 Type I
> http://www.ramva.org/dragenwagen
> "Old VW"s don't leak oil, they mark their territory."
> vwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvw

UGH, Wiring! Who knew.

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Money: What a concept?

On Feb 21, 9:38 am, Karma Ghia > wrote:
> In article >,
>
>
>
> "dragenwagen" > wrote:
> > Interesting... something I hadn't noticed before. I was going over the
> > wiring diagram for my '66 Beetle, and I noticed that the front turn signal
> > assemblies are not wired to have a parking/running light them, yes I know
> > that there is the parking/running light in the headlight assembly. They
> > look like they were meant to only have a single filament bulb for turn
> > signals only.
>
> > HOWEVER, my '66 is currently wired for a running light in the turn signal
> > assembly, and yes it does have an 1157 (twin filament) bulb in the holder,
> > so it has both turn signal and running light. The little light in the
> > headlight assembly is always on when the lights are on. Funny thing is -
> > that when I pull the headlight switch all the way out, the running lights in
> > the turn signal assembly go out. Also I would have to pull the light switch
> > to the paking lights position before the engine would start. Somebody wired
> > the ignition wrong!!!
>
> > My point?
>
> > Two words. Previous Owner. It just goes to show you that you never know
> > what you are getting when buying an old car. Previous owner syndrome lasts
> > long after the ink has dried on the title after you buy it!
>
> > My other point? Well, I bought a new '66 wiring harness for my car.
> > Again, however, I will have to make modifications to it, as I am not going
> > with a generator, but with an alternator, and it will be 12 volt not 6 volt.
> > This in it self requires certain modifications. Yes this will be a
> > modification to the way it came from the factory, however if it is done
> > right then the previous owner syndrome is not repeated per say. Usually
> > crappy mods are associated with previous owner syndrome. Especially when it
> > come wiring issues, most VW's wiring harness are hacked up and patched
> > beyond belief, and the results are lots of questions here. Hopefully the
> > weather gets nicer soon so I can completely rewire my car. Not a real
> > difficult job, but one that needs to be done right. I will try to get good
> > pics before and after, so stay tuned.
>
> > vwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvw
> > dragenwagen
> > 1966 Type I
> >http://www.ramva.org/dragenwagen
> > "Old VW"s don't leak oil, they mark their territory."
> > vwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvw
>
> UGH, Wiring! Who knew.
>
> --
>
> Money: What a concept?

could be worse, mine had all kinds of neat nods like poorly wired
alarm for the door popers, missing high-low beam switch and nonop turn
sigs.

anton

I have owned 9 VW bugs since I was in High school. I am guilty as charged on
the first one. Hey! I was just a snot nosed 16 year old making $1.35/hour. I
did it the best I could. But every one since then has had the same problem,
previous owners working on the wireing.

My most recent one I got from a guy that was a VW mechanic at a VW repair
shop for cryin out loud! ,and it had all sorts of crappy things done . I
took the motor out to replace the firewall area with some vented aluminum
and found three splices in the license plate light wire. He could have just
put a plug on both ends of a 3 foot piece of wire and done it correctly. The
horn doesn't work, no wipers, and the speedometer didn't work either.

Seems just about all older VW's have this sort of thing on them. Wonder if
any of the other older cars have this same problem.


Mike

"dragenwagen" > wrote in message
...
> My other point? Well, I bought a new '66 wiring harness for my car.
> Again, however, I will have to make modifications to it, as I am not going
> with a generator, but with an alternator, and it will be 12 volt not 6
> volt. This in it self requires certain modifications.

Actually, no. What you will have to do is make a ring terminal to female
spade terminal adapter for the hot wire at the alternator, and a pair of
male to male spade adapters for the large hot and small generator light
wires at the regulator. Insulate all connections well. That's it.

George

Oh yeah the electrical connections, I know I will have to change that
slightly, actually I was referring to the other mods that have to be done to
convert one from 6 to 12 volt. Which are no a problem because my car was
already converted to 12 volt. The new engine has a 12 volt flywheel and
12 volt starter, and the new trans is a later swingaxle that is already
clearanced for a 12 volt flywheel. But yes, the new harness will have to
changed slightly for the alternator connections.

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dragenwagen
1966 Type I
http://www.ramva.org/dragenwagen
"Old VW"s don't leak oil, they mark their territory."
vwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvw
> wrote in message ...
>
> "dragenwagen" > wrote in message
> ...
>> My other point? Well, I bought a new '66 wiring harness for my car.
>> Again, however, I will have to make modifications to it, as I am not
>> going with a generator, but with an alternator, and it will be 12 volt
>> not 6 volt. This in it self requires certain modifications.
>
> Actually, no. What you will have to do is make a ring terminal to female
> spade terminal adapter for the hot wire at the alternator, and a pair of
> male to male spade adapters for the large hot and small generator light
> wires at the regulator. Insulate all connections well. That's it.
>
> George
>

Too bad they didn't put the dual filament bulb in the headlight bucket, then
they could have eliminated the turn signal blister on the fender.

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KWW
'65 Beetle (Jenny the IOC)
'64 Beetle (TBD the Blue Wave)
"dragenwagen" > wrote in message
...
> Interesting... something I hadn't noticed before. I was going over the
> wiring diagram for my '66 Beetle, and I noticed that the front turn signal
> assemblies are not wired to have a parking/running light them, yes I know
> that there is the parking/running light in the headlight assembly. They
> look like they were meant to only have a single filament bulb for turn
> signals only.
>
> HOWEVER, my '66 is currently wired for a running light in the turn signal
> assembly, and yes it does have an 1157 (twin filament) bulb in the
> holder, so it has both turn signal and running light. The little light in
> the headlight assembly is always on when the lights are on. Funny thing
> is - that when I pull the headlight switch all the way out, the running
> lights in the turn signal assembly go out. Also I would have to pull the
> light switch to the paking lights position before the engine would start.
> Somebody wired the ignition wrong!!!
>
> My point?
>
> Two words. Previous Owner. It just goes to show you that you never know
> what you are getting when buying an old car. Previous owner syndrome
> lasts long after the ink has dried on the title after you buy it!
>
> My other point? Well, I bought a new '66 wiring harness for my car.
> Again, however, I will have to make modifications to it, as I am not going
> with a generator, but with an alternator, and it will be 12 volt not 6
> volt. This in it self requires certain modifications. Yes this will be a
> modification to the way it came from the factory, however if it is done
> right then the previous owner syndrome is not repeated per say. Usually
> crappy mods are associated with previous owner syndrome. Especially when
> it come wiring issues, most VW's wiring harness are hacked up and patched
> beyond belief, and the results are lots of questions here. Hopefully the
> weather gets nicer soon so I can completely rewire my car. Not a real
> difficult job, but one that needs to be done right. I will try to get good
> pics before and after, so stay tuned.
>
> vwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvw
> dragenwagen
> 1966 Type I
> http://www.ramva.org/dragenwagen
> "Old VW"s don't leak oil, they mark their territory."
> vwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvw
>

P O S ... i always wondered what it stood for.

"Flea" > wrote in message
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>P O S ... i always wondered what it stood for.
>

Piece Of *Sculpture*, of course....<G>

Well not exactly..... usually P.O.S. refers to something crappy, rundown,
broken, pretty much useless... making it a piece of ****.... Therefore a
nice way to say it is P.O.S.

I dunno why I called it Previous Owner Syndrome. maybe it'll be a new catch
phrase.... like fweem or flaps.

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dragenwagen
1966 Type I
http://www.ramva.org/dragenwagen
"Old VW"s don't leak oil, they mark their territory."
vwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvwvw
"Flea" > wrote in message
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>P O S ... i always wondered what it stood for.
>