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98 Civic Ex - Wiper Problem



 
 
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Old June 9th 12, 06:20 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.honda
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Default 98 Civic Ex - Wiper Problem

On 6/9/2012 9:42 AM, jim beam wrote:
> On 06/09/2012 07:20 AM, Big Brother wrote:
>> On 6/8/2012 8:13 PM, jim beam wrote:
>>> On 06/06/2012 06:01 PM, Tegger wrote:
>>>> Big > wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/5/2012 9:52 PM, Tegger wrote:
>>>>>> Big > wrote in
>>>>>> news:jqm523$gdp$1 @dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Problems with windshield wipers..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With the multi-function switch in the OFF position; wipers run on
>>>>>>> low speed. Will not shut off at all. Have to turn ignition off to
>>>>>>> stop wipers. Wipers will stop at any point on the windshield when
>>>>>>> ignition is turned off. Have to have pulled the fuse to stop wipers
>>>>>>> when driving.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With the multi-function switch in the INTERMITTENT position; wipers
>>>>>>> run on low speed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With the multi-function switch in the HIGH position; wipers run on
>>>>>>> high speed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this a 2-door model?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2-door
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is a TSB out on this very problem.
>>>>
>>>> TSB 00-031 says the park-position reed-switch inside the motor is
>>>> broken.
>>>> The cure is replacment of the motor.
>>>
>>> ok, but how is this relevant to whether it's a 2-door? the tsb list of
>>> affected vehicles is for u.s.-produced, both 2 and 4 door
>>> configurations. and i've never seen a honda where they differentiate on
>>> componentry at that level.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those motors are pretty pricey, new. You may be able to find a used
>>>> one at
>>>> a wrecking yard, or at www.car-part.com
>>>>
>>>> If you're feeling adventurous, you may want to try pulling the motor
>>>> apart
>>>> and see if you can McGyver-up some sort of DIY fix for the reed-switch.
>>>
>>> reed switches can be very problematic. apart from the difficulty in
>>> finding one the right size, their glass envelope can be disappointingly
>>> easy to break while trying to manipulate in a retrofit situation. if
>>> this were a vintage vehicle with no parts available and this was the
>>> only repair option, go ahead. but frankly, it's much easier to simply
>>> replace the motor for a few bucks from a junkyard. [depending on
>>> whether the donor is a 2 or 4 door. not.]
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've never done this, myself, so you're on your own on that one.
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> I'm torn between buying it from the discount on-line Honda dealership
>> for about $150 or a remanufactured one.
>>
>> NAPA has a remanuf for $120..for $30 more I can get a Honda OEM
>>
>> Rockauto has a A-1 Cardone for $68 plus shipping and then I have to send
>> back the old one.
>>
>> The junkyard has one for $45 but obviously that one has wear and tear on
>> the reed switch.
>>
>> Oh well..I'll take the weekend to think about it
>>
>> Do you know if the Honda one is new or remanufactured ?
>>

>
> the honda unit is almost certainly new. these are generally very
> reliable units so they're not commonly rebuilt for the oem like
> alternators or starters. and stay away from cardone. a very long way
> away.
>
> again, i don't recommend the junkyard unit simply on the basis of price,
> but on experience [which i consider to be highly valuable]. assuming
> it's a junkyard where you can find and pull your own, you will get the
> essential practice of removing the cover as non-destructively as
> possible - not something you want to do for the first time on your own
> vehicle. and if the donor vehicle's vin number begins with "j", you'll
> be getting a unit definitely not affected by this problem.
>
> did you call a dealer and ask whether they'd replace it for you for free
> because of the tsb?
>
>


Junkyard one is already off the vehicle.

I have the TSB and took it to the same dealer this morning.

In a nice way, they say "NO"; saying some b.s about T.S.B.'s actually
"saving me money" by reducing diagnostic time that the technician takes.
And the fact that the car is 14yr. old and has 130,000 miles. "It's OUT
OF WARRANTY" and a T.S.B. is not a recall; thank you Mr. Service Advisor..

I reminded them that I have had them service my three (3) Honda's for
the past 4 years. They couldn't care less. They certainly won't get any
new/used car sales from me.

As I've read in previous posts, todays Honda puts customer service
second and profits first.

Oh well.. I'll probably get the HONDA OEM one and take my time doing it..

Thx..

Rich





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