4x4 usefulness

Always made me wonder why SUV 4x4's sold at all in suburban, urban and
most rural areas.
4-wheel-drive is not needed, generally unless one intends to go
off-road. And where can one go off-road in a suburban town? Perhaps in
the town park? Or maybe a neighborhood golf course? No, this type of
vehicle is useless to the average person. Unless he (she) plows snow.
Al Young

Alan Young wrote:
> Always made me wonder why SUV 4x4's sold at all in suburban, urban and
> most rural areas.
> 4-wheel-drive is not needed, generally unless one intends to go
> off-road. And where can one go off-road in a suburban town? Perhaps in
> the town park? Or maybe a neighborhood golf course? No, this type of
> vehicle is useless to the average person. Unless he (she) plows snow.
> Al Young
>

I beg to differ. We owned 2 4x4's and used them all the time on the
street in 4x4. Both my wife and I got off our different shift jobs at
times when the snowplows hadn't touched the roads yet, her at 12 AM and
myself at 4 AM.

I even got paid extra on one contract to bring my 4x4 so we were
guaranteed we could get to the house and back in the ice and snow storms
when frozen pipes usually happen.

We also travel and have used it many many times in the snow on trips.
From the countless cars we plodded on by that were in the snowbank or
ditch, I would say the 4x4 was very useful.

I do think a 4x4 would be useless for someone as yourself who thinks it
is only for horsing around, folks like that go way too fast for the
conditions and just end up in ditches off ramps. Or do you live
someplace sunny and warm?

Mike (Up in The Great White North)

On 1/29/2009 9:19 AM, Mike Romain wrote:
> Alan Young wrote:
>> Always made me wonder why SUV 4x4's sold at all in suburban, urban and
>> most rural areas.
>> 4-wheel-drive is not needed, generally unless one intends to go
>> off-road. And where can one go off-road in a suburban town? Perhaps in
>> the town park? Or maybe a neighborhood golf course? No, this type of
>> vehicle is useless to the average person. Unless he (she) plows snow.
>> Al Young
>>
>
> I beg to differ. We owned 2 4x4's and used them all the time on the
> street in 4x4. Both my wife and I got off our different shift jobs at
> times when the snowplows hadn't touched the roads yet, her at 12 AM and
> myself at 4 AM.
>
> I even got paid extra on one contract to bring my 4x4 so we were
> guaranteed we could get to the house and back in the ice and snow storms
> when frozen pipes usually happen.
>
> We also travel and have used it many many times in the snow on trips.
> From the countless cars we plodded on by that were in the snowbank or
> ditch, I would say the 4x4 was very useful.
>
> I do think a 4x4 would be useless for someone as yourself who thinks it
> is only for horsing around, folks like that go way too fast for the
> conditions and just end up in ditches off ramps. Or do you live
> someplace sunny and warm?
>
> Mike (Up in The Great White North)


Watch this guys advise! He is the same guy that used to brag a few years
ago about 33 inch tires on his Jeep with 3.31 axle ratios and what a
GREAT combo it was and that it was totally acceptable to loose most
usage of 5th gear and lug motor and have reduced performance too. He is
a legend in his own mind. While some do offer good advise, his is purely
ego driven and not one to bet your safety on. I am glad he does not live
around me so I do not have to worry about meeting him going sideways
down the road at me in my lane on a slick road because his ego over
stepped reality.

SnoMan wrote:

>
> Watch this guys advise!

I see my not so favorite psychotic Usenet stalker is loose again. They
just let you out of jail?, been a while at least....

Mike

On 2/26/2009 9:06 PM, Mike Romain wrote:
> SnoMan wrote:
>
>> Watch this guys advise!
>
> I see my not so favorite psychotic Usenet stalker is loose again. They
> just let you out of jail?, been a while at least....
>
> Mike


No, you just do not like being put on a leash that's all. You are a
legend in your own mind and offer dangerous advise on some matters. I
few years ago I whatch a few of your "clones" (those who kinda think
like you) wreck two Wranglers about 1 minute apart on a icy highway.
They like you thought they were invincible and ego driven traveling in
4wd at speed on a slick road and first one spun out and went in the
ditch and the second one spun out about same place and hit first one in
the ditch and kinda drove over it because it hit with such force. Both
were pretty new and totaled and one driver was seriously hurt too. Many
car before and after this that were not Wranglers and were not 4wd
passed this place with no problems. If it walks like a duck and quacks
like a duck it is a duck and same applies to you as you are a accident
waiting to happen and do not need others to take your misguided advise
on matters of safety. If you want me to leave you be, stop posting ego
driven BS advise as your comments are ripe for picking.

In article > ,
SnoMan > wrote:

> On 1/29/2009 9:19 AM, Mike Romain wrote:
> > Alan Young wrote:
> >> Always made me wonder why SUV 4x4's sold at all in suburban, urban and
> >> most rural areas.
> >> 4-wheel-drive is not needed, generally unless one intends to go
> >> off-road. And where can one go off-road in a suburban town? Perhaps in
> >> the town park? Or maybe a neighborhood golf course? No, this type of
> >> vehicle is useless to the average person. Unless he (she) plows snow.
> >> Al Young
> >>
> >
> > I beg to differ. We owned 2 4x4's and used them all the time on the
> > street in 4x4. Both my wife and I got off our different shift jobs at
> > times when the snowplows hadn't touched the roads yet, her at 12 AM and
> > myself at 4 AM.
> >
> > I even got paid extra on one contract to bring my 4x4 so we were
> > guaranteed we could get to the house and back in the ice and snow storms
> > when frozen pipes usually happen.
> >
> > We also travel and have used it many many times in the snow on trips.
> > From the countless cars we plodded on by that were in the snowbank or
> > ditch, I would say the 4x4 was very useful.
> >
> > I do think a 4x4 would be useless for someone as yourself who thinks it
> > is only for horsing around, folks like that go way too fast for the
> > conditions and just end up in ditches off ramps. Or do you live
> > someplace sunny and warm?
> >
> > Mike (Up in The Great White North)
>
>
> Watch this guys advise! He is the same guy that used to brag a few years
> ago about 33 inch tires on his Jeep with 3.31 axle ratios and what a
> GREAT combo it was and that it was totally acceptable to loose most
> usage of 5th gear and lug motor and have reduced performance too. He is
> a legend in his own mind. While some do offer good advise, his is purely
> ego driven and not one to bet your safety on. I am glad he does not live
> around me so I do not have to worry about meeting him going sideways
> down the road at me in my lane on a slick road because his ego over
> stepped reality.

Get your meds adjusted Jacob.

On 2/27/2009 8:54 AM, aarcuda69062 wrote:
> In article<f8GdnUm5rJjxVzvUnZ2dnUVZ_o7inZ2d@earthlink .com>,
> > wrote:
>
>> On 1/29/2009 9:19 AM, Mike Romain wrote:
>>> Alan Young wrote:
>>>> Always made me wonder why SUV 4x4's sold at all in suburban, urban and
>>>> most rural areas.
>>>> 4-wheel-drive is not needed, generally unless one intends to go
>>>> off-road. And where can one go off-road in a suburban town? Perhaps in
>>>> the town park? Or maybe a neighborhood golf course? No, this type of
>>>> vehicle is useless to the average person. Unless he (she) plows snow.
>>>> Al Young
>>>>
>>> I beg to differ. We owned 2 4x4's and used them all the time on the
>>> street in 4x4. Both my wife and I got off our different shift jobs at
>>> times when the snowplows hadn't touched the roads yet, her at 12 AM and
>>> myself at 4 AM.
>>>
>>> I even got paid extra on one contract to bring my 4x4 so we were
>>> guaranteed we could get to the house and back in the ice and snow storms
>>> when frozen pipes usually happen.
>>>
>>> We also travel and have used it many many times in the snow on trips.
>>> From the countless cars we plodded on by that were in the snowbank or
>>> ditch, I would say the 4x4 was very useful.
>>>
>>> I do think a 4x4 would be useless for someone as yourself who thinks it
>>> is only for horsing around, folks like that go way too fast for the
>>> conditions and just end up in ditches off ramps. Or do you live
>>> someplace sunny and warm?
>>>
>>> Mike (Up in The Great White North)
>>
>> Watch this guys advise! He is the same guy that used to brag a few years
>> ago about 33 inch tires on his Jeep with 3.31 axle ratios and what a
>> GREAT combo it was and that it was totally acceptable to loose most
>> usage of 5th gear and lug motor and have reduced performance too. He is
>> a legend in his own mind. While some do offer good advise, his is purely
>> ego driven and not one to bet your safety on. I am glad he does not live
>> around me so I do not have to worry about meeting him going sideways
>> down the road at me in my lane on a slick road because his ego over
>> stepped reality.
>
> Get your meds adjusted Jacob.


Guess again, (which is what clueless people do a lot) you are just as
full of it and do not even have right guy either.

On Mar 1, 9:57*am, SnoMan > wrote:
> On 2/27/2009 8:54 AM, aarcuda69062 wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article<f8GdnUm5rJjxVzvUnZ2dnUVZ_o7in...@earthlink .com>,
> > * > *wrote:
>
> >> On 1/29/2009 9:19 AM, Mike Romain wrote:
> >>> Alan Young wrote:
> >>>> Always made me wonder why SUV 4x4's sold at all in suburban, urban and
> >>>> most rural areas.
> >>>> 4-wheel-drive is not needed, generally unless one intends to go
> >>>> off-road. And where can one go off-road in a suburban town? Perhaps in
> >>>> the town park? Or maybe a neighborhood golf course? No, this type of
> >>>> vehicle is useless to the average person. Unless he (she) plows snow..
> >>>> Al Young
>
> >>> I beg to differ. We owned 2 4x4's and used them all the time on the
> >>> street in 4x4. Both my wife and I got off our different shift jobs at
> >>> times when the snowplows hadn't touched the roads yet, her at 12 AM and
> >>> myself at 4 AM.
>
> >>> I even got paid extra on one contract to bring my 4x4 so we were
> >>> guaranteed we could get to the house and back in the ice and snow storms
> >>> when frozen pipes usually happen.
>
> >>> We also travel and have used it many many times in the snow on trips.
> >>> * From the countless cars we plodded on by that were in the snowbank or
> >>> ditch, I would say the 4x4 was very useful.
>
> >>> I do think a 4x4 would be useless for someone as yourself who thinks it
> >>> is only for horsing around, folks like that go way too fast for the
> >>> conditions and just end up in ditches off ramps. Or do you live
> >>> someplace sunny and warm?
>
> >>> Mike (Up in The Great White North)
>
> >> Watch this guys advise! He is the same guy that used to brag a few years
> >> ago about 33 inch tires on his Jeep with 3.31 axle ratios and what a
> >> GREAT combo it was and that it was totally acceptable to loose most
> >> usage of 5th gear and lug motor and have reduced performance too. He is
> >> a legend in his own mind. While some do offer good advise, his is purely
> >> ego driven and not one to bet your safety on. I am glad he does not live
> >> around me so I do not have to worry about meeting him going sideways
> >> down the road at me in my lane on a slick road because his ego over
> >> stepped reality.
>
> > Get your meds adjusted Jacob.
>
> Guess again, (which is what clueless people do a lot) you are just as
> full of it and do not even have right guy either.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hey, supposin' one didn't know anything about cars and had to decide
correctitude between Sowman and [everyone else], I 'spoze [everyone
else] would get the slight advantage due to their coherent and not-so-
insane sounding ramblings. WTH, I thought you got rid of him, Neil!

Toyota MDT in MO

Alan Young wrote:
> Always made me wonder why SUV 4x4's sold at all in suburban, urban and
> most rural areas.
> 4-wheel-drive is not needed, generally unless one intends to go
> off-road. And where can one go off-road in a suburban town? Perhaps in
> the town park? Or maybe a neighborhood golf course? No, this type of
> vehicle is useless to the average person. Unless he (she) plows snow.
> Al Young
>

Actually, very careful research is behind this phenomenon. If everyone
in the USofA buys a true 4x4, rumor is it that someone named Alan Young
will scream himself to death after realizing nobody gives a rat.

You raise a very good point. It is great sales tool for Detroit and has
helped put them in the pickle they are in today. It adds cost and weight
to a SUV and also reduces MPG 5 to 10% too. Detriot has done a fine job
over the years convincing public that they need 4wd when 99% of the time
even a front wheel drive will get you through and with better stability
and less quirks too.

On 1/28/2009 7:58 PM, Alan Young wrote:
> Always made me wonder why SUV 4x4's sold at all in suburban, urban and
> most rural areas.
> 4-wheel-drive is not needed, generally unless one intends to go
> off-road. And where can one go off-road in a suburban town? Perhaps in
> the town park? Or maybe a neighborhood golf course? No, this type of
> vehicle is useless to the average person. Unless he (she) plows snow.
> Al Young
>