1988 Honda Accord won't idle when warmed up

jim beam wrote:
> Tegger wrote:
>> wrote in
>> :
>>> On Jan 29, 7:05 pm, Grumpy AuContraire >
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> i drive industrial vehicles at work and i realise that most of the
>>> engines in these vehicles are diesel-powered, oil-cooled, no
>>> computers, compact in size and yet puts out decent power with good
>>> fuel efficiency, they can take a good abuse and yet requires virtually
>>> no maintenance, other than scheduled oil and filter changes...
>>
>> And none but the barest governmental diktats.
>>
>>
>>> corporate america knows what's best for them.. but us consumers are
>>> f*cked... haha
>>
>> "Corporate America" had cars getting ever /simpler/ for the consumer
>> over the decades.
>> It's the government that's to blame for complexity, specifically the
>> EPA and NHTSA. You can call what they do good, bad or indifferent, but
>> it is undeniable that their mandates have introduced enormous and
>> hugely expensive complication into cars.
>
> a lot of this "complication" is not that expensive. well, it is at the
> consumer end, but not for the manufacturers. at their kind of volume
> levels, a complete fuel injection package, with catalyst and all
> sensors, is probably less than $500. that's not exactly a significant
> burden on a vehicle retailing for over $15k.

Guess again, Detroit's cost to produce an entire V8 engine was $150 in
the late 60's/early 70's (I'm remembering this from an old Car & Driver
article), so $500 just for the FI system is decidedly non trivial.