2l Golf Oil usage

I do agree VW did drop the ball on coils and window regulators by not
addressing the issue when they saw warranty claims went trough the roof on
them. But then again once the supplier made several 100,000 or more on cars
it's too late to do anything about the problem other than just fix them all.
Also there was a period for VW to figure why the parts failed and have the
supplier redesign the parts for replacement. In some respect VW is no
different than Ford, GM, Chrysler, etc for having recalls. I do thing VW has
less than the others. It's sure great to know if you own a Dodge truck your
wheels may fall off due to faulty ball joints!


"Tony Bad" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Simplstupd" > wrote in message
> ...
>> 2 comments: on my 96 Golf ABA 2.0 which I bought new it never used any
>> oil
>> until I gave it to a friend at 35k miles.
>>
>> How hard is it to check the oil 2x/month and add if necessary? Is oil
>> really
>> that expensive? I mean c'mon folks! Find something else to complain
>> about!
>
> Not the point.
>
> I know I can check the oil, but it is a sign that something wasn't put
> together
> right. How hard was it to have your window regulators replaced? How hard
> was it
> to have your coils replaced? None of these things are "hard" to address,
> the
> issue is that they shouldn't NEED to be addressed.
>
> --
> Tony Bad
>
> 02 Jetta Wagon
> 01 Eurovan MV
> 91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
> 86 Jetta
> 79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
> Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
> Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)
>
>

>From: "Tony Bad"
>

snip

>I don't hate VW's, but if VW
>said they have the same issue with a lot of 2.0 liter engines, I'd accept it,
>...but telling me a new car burning 3/4 quart of oil every thousand miles is
>"normal" is bull****. It is corporate speak for covering one's ass, something
>VW
>has gotten good at in recent years...somewhat out of necessity...their ass
>has
>needed a lot of covering!
>--
>Tony Bad

Could it be that the thinner oil, that is required in these engines, just get
consumed by the engine?
What oil is required for your 2.0L 5W-30 Dino oil?
Once your warranty is over, and you feel brave, try some thicker synthetic in
it and see what happens.

My 1983 1.8l GTi engine (in my 83 Audi 4KS) with 225K miles on it might use a
quart in about 5K miles. I run Mobil 1 15W-50 I think. lol

just thinking out loud.
dave
(One out of many daves)

later,
dave
(One out of many Daves)

>From: "Tony Bad"
>

snip

>I don't hate VW's, but if VW
>said they have the same issue with a lot of 2.0 liter engines, I'd accept it,
>...but telling me a new car burning 3/4 quart of oil every thousand miles is
>"normal" is bull****. It is corporate speak for covering one's ass, something
>VW
>has gotten good at in recent years...somewhat out of necessity...their ass
>has
>needed a lot of covering!
>--
>Tony Bad

Could it be that the thinner oil, that is required in these engines, just get
consumed by the engine?
What oil is required for your 2.0L 5W-30 Dino oil?
Once your warranty is over, and you feel brave, try some thicker synthetic in
it and see what happens.

My 1983 1.8l GTi engine (in my 83 Audi 4KS) with 225K miles on it might use a
quart in about 5K miles. I run Mobil 1 15W-50 I think. lol

just thinking out loud.
dave
(One out of many daves)

later,
dave
(One out of many Daves)

"dave" > wrote in message
...
>
> Could it be that the thinner oil, that is required in these engines, just get
> consumed by the engine?
> What oil is required for your 2.0L 5W-30 Dino oil?
> Once your warranty is over, and you feel brave, try some thicker synthetic in
> it and see what happens.
>
> My 1983 1.8l GTi engine (in my 83 Audi 4KS) with 225K miles on it might use a
> quart in about 5K miles. I run Mobil 1 15W-50 I think. lol
>
> just thinking out loud.
> dave
> (One out of many daves)
>
> later,
> dave
> (One out of many Daves)

It could be, and I actually thought about trying just what you said. I wouldn't
even be bothering with taking it into dealer now except that the amount of oil
being used seems to be rising. My van runs the same thin oil, and doesn't burn
any. My 79 diesel never used any oil between changes, even as it approached
300,000 miles...which is partly why I have a hard time with the "it's normal"
answer I got.

--
Tony Bad

02 Jetta Wagon
01 Eurovan MV
91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
86 Jetta
79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)

"dave" > wrote in message
...
>
> Could it be that the thinner oil, that is required in these engines, just get
> consumed by the engine?
> What oil is required for your 2.0L 5W-30 Dino oil?
> Once your warranty is over, and you feel brave, try some thicker synthetic in
> it and see what happens.
>
> My 1983 1.8l GTi engine (in my 83 Audi 4KS) with 225K miles on it might use a
> quart in about 5K miles. I run Mobil 1 15W-50 I think. lol
>
> just thinking out loud.
> dave
> (One out of many daves)
>
> later,
> dave
> (One out of many Daves)

It could be, and I actually thought about trying just what you said. I wouldn't
even be bothering with taking it into dealer now except that the amount of oil
being used seems to be rising. My van runs the same thin oil, and doesn't burn
any. My 79 diesel never used any oil between changes, even as it approached
300,000 miles...which is partly why I have a hard time with the "it's normal"
answer I got.

--
Tony Bad

02 Jetta Wagon
01 Eurovan MV
91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
86 Jetta
79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)

In article >,
Tony Bad > wrote:
>
<snip>
>I know they are different, but none of them are things someone who spends
>$20,000 on a car should have to deal with...they are all a pain in the ass. I
>take the car on long trips frequently, and having to check the oil mid-trip is
>not something I expected. I am not sure why this is happening, but despite what
>you say, something was not put together right.
>
>I haven't lost sleep over it, but not happy about it...and I'm disappointed at
>the way my dealer and VW addressed it when I brought it to their attention when
>the car was almost new. I am wondering what they will have to say later this
>week because the oil consumption is worsening. I have never had to add a bit of
>oil between changes in my 01 Eurovan, so telling me a quart every 1000 miles is
>"normal for modern engines" is just a stupid thing for VW to tell people.

Modern engines = 5W20 = thin oil rings = MPG = more engine wear = consumption.

If the consumption gets out of hand which is like 1 quart every 500 miles, they
then re-ring the pistons with thicker oil seals IMO.

What happens if you use something like 10W40 or 14W40? Does it still
consume?

Woodchuck probably knows if these ahha modern einstein uh engines can
handle thicker Texas Tea...


--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

In article >,
Tony Bad > wrote:
>
<snip>
>I know they are different, but none of them are things someone who spends
>$20,000 on a car should have to deal with...they are all a pain in the ass. I
>take the car on long trips frequently, and having to check the oil mid-trip is
>not something I expected. I am not sure why this is happening, but despite what
>you say, something was not put together right.
>
>I haven't lost sleep over it, but not happy about it...and I'm disappointed at
>the way my dealer and VW addressed it when I brought it to their attention when
>the car was almost new. I am wondering what they will have to say later this
>week because the oil consumption is worsening. I have never had to add a bit of
>oil between changes in my 01 Eurovan, so telling me a quart every 1000 miles is
>"normal for modern engines" is just a stupid thing for VW to tell people.

Modern engines = 5W20 = thin oil rings = MPG = more engine wear = consumption.

If the consumption gets out of hand which is like 1 quart every 500 miles, they
then re-ring the pistons with thicker oil seals IMO.

What happens if you use something like 10W40 or 14W40? Does it still
consume?

Woodchuck probably knows if these ahha modern einstein uh engines can
handle thicker Texas Tea...


--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

My 2003 TDI does not use oil between 10,000 mile oil changes using
5w40 Delvac1. Maybe part of the problem is oil weight except all the
engines use some sort of thin oil but just the 2L is having the
problem.

Now I am having a bit of joy because my clutch is slipping at 67,000
miles. I don't drive hard. I regularly get 50 mpg which supports my
lack of lead foot. $500 in parts to get an old style 300 lb/ft clutch
to handle the torque of the TDI. Well actually some more money than
the initial $500 because there appears to be a bunch of stretch bolts
that need to be replaced.

"Tony Bad" > wrote:

>
>"dave" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> Could it be that the thinner oil, that is required in these engines, just get
>> consumed by the engine?
>> What oil is required for your 2.0L 5W-30 Dino oil?
>> Once your warranty is over, and you feel brave, try some thicker synthetic in
>> it and see what happens.
>>
>> My 1983 1.8l GTi engine (in my 83 Audi 4KS) with 225K miles on it might use a
>> quart in about 5K miles. I run Mobil 1 15W-50 I think. lol
>>
>> just thinking out loud.
>> dave
>> (One out of many daves)
>>
>> later,
>> dave
>> (One out of many Daves)
>
>It could be, and I actually thought about trying just what you said. I wouldn't
>even be bothering with taking it into dealer now except that the amount of oil
>being used seems to be rising. My van runs the same thin oil, and doesn't burn
>any. My 79 diesel never used any oil between changes, even as it approached
>300,000 miles...which is partly why I have a hard time with the "it's normal"
>answer I got.


Jim B.

My 2003 TDI does not use oil between 10,000 mile oil changes using
5w40 Delvac1. Maybe part of the problem is oil weight except all the
engines use some sort of thin oil but just the 2L is having the
problem.

Now I am having a bit of joy because my clutch is slipping at 67,000
miles. I don't drive hard. I regularly get 50 mpg which supports my
lack of lead foot. $500 in parts to get an old style 300 lb/ft clutch
to handle the torque of the TDI. Well actually some more money than
the initial $500 because there appears to be a bunch of stretch bolts
that need to be replaced.

"Tony Bad" > wrote:

>
>"dave" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> Could it be that the thinner oil, that is required in these engines, just get
>> consumed by the engine?
>> What oil is required for your 2.0L 5W-30 Dino oil?
>> Once your warranty is over, and you feel brave, try some thicker synthetic in
>> it and see what happens.
>>
>> My 1983 1.8l GTi engine (in my 83 Audi 4KS) with 225K miles on it might use a
>> quart in about 5K miles. I run Mobil 1 15W-50 I think. lol
>>
>> just thinking out loud.
>> dave
>> (One out of many daves)
>>
>> later,
>> dave
>> (One out of many Daves)
>
>It could be, and I actually thought about trying just what you said. I wouldn't
>even be bothering with taking it into dealer now except that the amount of oil
>being used seems to be rising. My van runs the same thin oil, and doesn't burn
>any. My 79 diesel never used any oil between changes, even as it approached
>300,000 miles...which is partly why I have a hard time with the "it's normal"
>answer I got.


Jim B.

A new car shouldn't burn oil tho!

It's always good to check it, but you shouldn't have to add unless it's
leaking or burning... and if it's burning then the oil is getting past the
rings and you might be damaging your catalytic converter or something.

Our 2003 Golf with 8000kms on it is burning oil too... we're considering a
new car because of this and other small problems.
"Simplstupd" > wrote in message
...
>2 comments: on my 96 Golf ABA 2.0 which I bought new it never used any oil
> until I gave it to a friend at 35k miles.
>
> How hard is it to check the oil 2x/month and add if necessary? Is oil
> really
> that expensive? I mean c'mon folks! Find something else to complain
> about!