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  #21  
Old December 30th 05, 04:14 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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"Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Chas Hurst" > wrote:
>
> > > Have you ever heard of Captain Underpants?
> > >

> >
> > (GASP) Is that you?

>
> No way! Captain Underpants drives a Gremlin, not a Miata.
>

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  #22  
Old December 31st 05, 01:07 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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Chas Hurst wrote:
> "Grant Edwards" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2005-12-28, Thomas Misek > wrote:
>>
>>> Hopefully it's not too late to add something. Have you
>>> considered what will happen if you start your Miata when it's
>>> not in neutral?

>>
>> That's why I asked about neutral interlock switches.

>
> I bypassed the neutral interlock on both my stick shift cars. I
> really dont need to be protected from myself.


That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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Old December 31st 05, 02:56 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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"tooloud" > wrote in message
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> Chas Hurst wrote:
> > "Grant Edwards" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On 2005-12-28, Thomas Misek > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hopefully it's not too late to add something. Have you
> >>> considered what will happen if you start your Miata when it's
> >>> not in neutral?
> >>
> >> That's why I asked about neutral interlock switches.

> >
> > I bypassed the neutral interlock on both my stick shift cars. I
> > really dont need to be protected from myself.

>
> That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.


You have lived a very sheltered life.


  #24  
Old December 31st 05, 03:55 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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In article <lZjtf.446464$084.115506@attbi_s22>,
"tooloud" > wrote:

> Chas Hurst wrote:
> > "Grant Edwards" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On 2005-12-28, Thomas Misek > wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hopefully it's not too late to add something. Have you
> >>> considered what will happen if you start your Miata when it's
> >>> not in neutral?
> >>
> >> That's why I asked about neutral interlock switches.

> >
> > I bypassed the neutral interlock on both my stick shift cars. I
> > really dont need to be protected from myself.

>
> That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.


Then I guess you're going to hear it again -

I'm another that thinks the same way. When I turn the key to crank, I
want it to crank. No discussion, no arguments about safety or lack
thereof, JUST CRANK AND DO IT NOW.

Being able to do that has gotten me home on multiple occasions.

Snapped clutch cable on a Honda Civic. Had to start it in gear and
pop-shift it, stalling it out/turning it off for stop signs, then
re-starting in gear all the way home. (Just under 30 miles)

To keep it at least *KIND OF* on topic, The same "start it in gear, pop
shift, stall/shut-down for stops" that worked for the Civic has gotten
me to the parts joint for the rebuild kit, and back home to the tools in
my *MAZDA* (See? On topic ) 626 (Uh-oh... lost the topic again) when
the clutch slave cylinder cup puked. (slave-cup failure on Mazdas,
whether Miatas or 626s, seems to be relatively common, according to the
number of posts from Miata drivers I've seen about it around here. I'd
have a hard time disagreeing. Fortunately, it's also cheap, quick, and
easy to fix. But first, you've gotta get car, tools, and parts all in
the same place at the same time.)

It's for *PRECISELY* that reason that I typically own and have physical
possession of a vehicle with a stick for less than 24 hours before any
clutch and/or stick-position interlock that will keep it from cranking
when I turn the key gets permanently defeated. I don't need a
flesh-and-blood nanny, and I sure as hell don't need one made out of
metal and shaped like a car!

Editorial/opinion section:
What kind of lazy does it take to want a remote starter, anyway? Is it
really *THAT* much effort to walk over, open the door, and turn the
key??

Ignoring that part, what kind of complete idiot would try to put one on
a car with a stick, and why??? Dunno about anybody else, but I was
taught from day one that a properly parked stick is always *AT LEAST*
left in either first or reverse, and it's a damned good idea, if not
flat-out mandatory, to set the parking brake besides. With that in mind,
the idea of having some gizmo around that somebody could push -
intentionally or otherwise - to get my car to crank without physically
turning the key is sheer insanity, complete with a side-order of stupid!
It's about like tits on a bilygoat, since it'll never be safe to push
that button unless you're sitting in the driver's seat - Making the
whole idea utterly (udderly? ) pointless!

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  #25  
Old December 31st 05, 05:48 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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On 2005-12-31, Don Bruder > wrote:

> What kind of lazy does it take to want a remote starter,
> anyway? Is it really *THAT* much effort to walk over, open the
> door, and turn the key??


They seem pretty popular around here when the temperature hits
-20F.

> Ignoring that part, what kind of complete idiot would try to
> put one on a car with a stick, and why???


On presumes for the same reasons people put them on other cars
you ugly, stupid, obnoxious asshole.

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Old December 31st 05, 08:49 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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In article >,
Grant Edwards > wrote:

> On 2005-12-31, Don Bruder > wrote:
>
> > What kind of lazy does it take to want a remote starter,
> > anyway? Is it really *THAT* much effort to walk over, open the
> > door, and turn the key??

>
> They seem pretty popular around here when the temperature hits
> -20F.


Michigan-raised, m'lad, so I've BTDT, and I'm not impressed. If you're
that fragile, and not bright enough to dress suitably for the weather,
well... <shrug> what what more needs to be said?

> > Ignoring that part, what kind of complete idiot would try to
> > put one on a car with a stick, and why???

>
> On presumes for the same reasons people put them on other cars
> you ugly, stupid, obnoxious asshole.


Oh, OK, I think I understand... That must be your code for "I've got
nothing meaningful to say, but I disagree with your opinion, so I'll
spew insults to make sure everybody knows I'm still here."

Do I get a gold star for guessing right? Or is it the usual reward of
"another dose of insults" this week? Hmmm... maybe it's my lucky day,
and the prize is a <plonk> this time? That's always a favorite amongst
those practicing your methods.

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  #27  
Old December 31st 05, 09:37 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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On 2005-12-31, Don Bruder > wrote:

> Michigan-raised, m'lad, so I've BTDT, and I'm not impressed.
> If you're that fragile, and not bright enough to dress
> suitably for the weather, well... <shrug> what what more needs
> to be said?


I don't have remote start.

>> On presumes for the same reasons people put them on other cars
>> you ugly, stupid, obnoxious asshole.

>
> Oh, OK, I think I understand...


You were the one who was calling people lazy stupid asses. I
just assuumed that was the way you preferred to be addressed.
If not, then I suggest you not address others in that manner.

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Old January 1st 06, 07:10 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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Chas Hurst wrote:
> "tooloud" > wrote in message
> news:lZjtf.446464$084.115506@attbi_s22...
>> Chas Hurst wrote:
>>> "Grant Edwards" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2005-12-28, Thomas Misek > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully it's not too late to add something. Have you
>>>>> considered what will happen if you start your Miata when it's
>>>>> not in neutral?
>>>>
>>>> That's why I asked about neutral interlock switches.
>>>
>>> I bypassed the neutral interlock on both my stick shift cars. I
>>> really dont need to be protected from myself.

>>
>> That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

>
> You have lived a very sheltered life.


No, you're really selling yourself short if you believe that.

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  #29  
Old January 1st 06, 07:21 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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Don Bruder wrote:
> In article <lZjtf.446464$084.115506@attbi_s22>,
> "tooloud" > wrote:
>
>> Chas Hurst wrote:
>>> "Grant Edwards" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2005-12-28, Thomas Misek > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully it's not too late to add something. Have you
>>>>> considered what will happen if you start your Miata when it's
>>>>> not in neutral?
>>>>
>>>> That's why I asked about neutral interlock switches.
>>>
>>> I bypassed the neutral interlock on both my stick shift cars. I
>>> really dont need to be protected from myself.

>>
>> That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

>
> Then I guess you're going to hear it again -
>
> I'm another that thinks the same way. When I turn the key to crank, I
> want it to crank. No discussion, no arguments about safety or lack
> thereof, JUST CRANK AND DO IT NOW.


With that logic, you should stop locking your home and car doors. I mean,
you want to JUST GET IN AND DO IT NOW, right? None of that silly "safety"
stuff.

> Being able to do that has gotten me home on multiple occasions.


I've never been in that situation. I either choose more reliable cars than
you or maintain them better.

> Snapped clutch cable on a Honda Civic. Had to start it in gear and
> pop-shift it, stalling it out/turning it off for stop signs, then
> re-starting in gear all the way home. (Just under 30 miles)


That's what AAA is for.

> To keep it at least *KIND OF* on topic, The same "start it in gear,
> pop shift, stall/shut-down for stops" that worked for the Civic has
> gotten me to the parts joint for the rebuild kit, and back home to
> the tools in my *MAZDA* (See? On topic ) 626 (Uh-oh... lost the
> topic again) when the clutch slave cylinder cup puked. (slave-cup
> failure on Mazdas, whether Miatas or 626s, seems to be relatively
> common, according to the number of posts from Miata drivers I've seen
> about it around here. I'd have a hard time disagreeing. Fortunately,
> it's also cheap, quick, and easy to fix. But first, you've gotta get
> car, tools, and parts all in the same place at the same time.)


I guess I don't find stories of nursing disabled cars to multiple places
very brag-worthy.

> It's for *PRECISELY* that reason that I typically own and have
> physical possession of a vehicle with a stick for less than 24 hours
> before any clutch and/or stick-position interlock that will keep it
> from cranking when I turn the key gets permanently defeated. I don't
> need a flesh-and-blood nanny, and I sure as hell don't need one made
> out of metal and shaped like a car!


Better get that ABS system disabled then. Pull the fuse for the airbags
while you're at it...I mean, you're smarter than a silly CAR, aren't you?
Who are you to have a CAR tell you what to do?

You sound like the idiots on the Infiniti forum I frequent that brag about
turning off the stability control every time they get in the car because
they think they can do a better job.

> Editorial/opinion section:
> What kind of lazy does it take to want a remote starter, anyway? Is it
> really *THAT* much effort to walk over, open the door, and turn the
> key??


<shrug> If you truly fail to see any worthwhile attributes to a remote
starting system, you're thinking rather simply. I've had one--it can be a
very handy device, provided that you attach it to a car that you're sure
won't lurch forward when the wrong guy tries to use it.

> Ignoring that part, what kind of complete idiot would try to put one
> on a car with a stick, and why??? Dunno about anybody else, but I was
> taught from day one that a properly parked stick is always *AT LEAST*
> left in either first or reverse, and it's a damned good idea, if not
> flat-out mandatory, to set the parking brake besides.


On that we can agree.

> With that in
> mind, the idea of having some gizmo around that somebody could push -
> intentionally or otherwise - to get my car to crank without physically
> turning the key is sheer insanity, complete with a side-order of
> stupid! It's about like tits on a bilygoat, since it'll never be safe
> to push that button unless you're sitting in the driver's seat -
> Making the whole idea utterly (udderly? ) pointless!


It's at least as safe as turning the ignition yourself and walking away from
the car, like many people tend to do anyway. It's also safe enough that GM
got the idea past its legal department and is now offering it as as option
on many of its cars--only on vehicles equipped with automatic transmissions,
though.

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Old January 1st 06, 07:23 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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Don Bruder wrote:
> In article >,
> Grant Edwards > wrote:
>
>> On 2005-12-31, Don Bruder > wrote:
>>
>>> What kind of lazy does it take to want a remote starter,
>>> anyway? Is it really *THAT* much effort to walk over, open the
>>> door, and turn the key??

>>
>> They seem pretty popular around here when the temperature hits
>> -20F.

>
> Michigan-raised, m'lad, so I've BTDT, and I'm not impressed. If you're
> that fragile, and not bright enough to dress suitably for the weather,
> well... <shrug> what what more needs to be said?


You come across as a big, dumb, brute of a man that refuses to see past the
end of his nose.

<snip>

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