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Old August 10th 10, 05:00 PM posted to alt.autos.audi
tony sayer
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Default Audi A6 ignition woes;(..


Hi..

Just bought an S/H Audi A6 from a large London dealer and all seemed
fine on a short local test drive. On the way home on the motorway a
brake problem reared its ugly head which seems all due to shot pads and
discs. Seems to brake as well as any but very strange noise sounds like
ABS left on when braking over a slippery road or gravel which it isn't..

Also car developed very bad misfire, not much pleased. Took car to local
dealer who reckoned that a a total brake re line with new discs was in
order and that a coil pack had failed causing the misfire. Original
supplier company have offered to drag the car back to their workshop for
repair but I have lost confidence in them so they have offered to pay
the costs of a repair at the local Audi dealer which I much prefer.

Any else have adverse brake experiences o been affected by what seems a
serious problem with these coil packs?..

cheers...

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Old August 10th 10, 08:24 PM posted to alt.autos.audi
Mark Opolo
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Default Audi A6 ignition woes;(..


"tony sayer" > wrote in message
...
>
> Hi..
>
> Just bought an S/H Audi A6 from a large London dealer and all seemed
> fine on a short local test drive. On the way home on the motorway a
> brake problem reared its ugly head which seems all due to shot pads and
> discs. Seems to brake as well as any but very strange noise sounds like
> ABS left on when braking over a slippery road or gravel which it isn't..
>
> Also car developed very bad misfire, not much pleased. Took car to local
> dealer who reckoned that a a total brake re line with new discs was in
> order and that a coil pack had failed causing the misfire. Original
> supplier company have offered to drag the car back to their workshop for
> repair but I have lost confidence in them so they have offered to pay
> the costs of a repair at the local Audi dealer which I much prefer.
>
> Any else have adverse brake experiences o been affected by what seems a
> serious problem with these coil packs?..
>
> cheers...
>
> --
> Tony Sayer
>
>
>


ME...........I would let the original garage recover it and then get your
money back. You just don't know what else is going to crop up.


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Old August 11th 10, 11:40 AM posted to alt.autos.audi
tony sayer
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Default Audi A6 ignition woes;(..

In article >, Mark Opolo
> scribeth thus
>
>"tony sayer" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> Hi..
>>
>> Just bought an S/H Audi A6 from a large London dealer and all seemed
>> fine on a short local test drive. On the way home on the motorway a
>> brake problem reared its ugly head which seems all due to shot pads and
>> discs. Seems to brake as well as any but very strange noise sounds like
>> ABS left on when braking over a slippery road or gravel which it isn't..
>>
>> Also car developed very bad misfire, not much pleased. Took car to local
>> dealer who reckoned that a a total brake re line with new discs was in
>> order and that a coil pack had failed causing the misfire. Original
>> supplier company have offered to drag the car back to their workshop for
>> repair but I have lost confidence in them so they have offered to pay
>> the costs of a repair at the local Audi dealer which I much prefer.
>>
>> Any else have adverse brake experiences o been affected by what seems a
>> serious problem with these coil packs?..
>>
>> cheers...
>>
>> --
>> Tony Sayer
>>
>>
>>

>
>ME...........I would let the original garage recover it and then get your
>money back. You just don't know what else is going to crop up.
>
>


Yes point taken. We did and can do that under the sale of goods act but
as most cars it seems, come from an ex lease source around the 3 year
mark I suspect that most others up for sale are from that source too. It
seems that very few have been used by the little 'ole lady to go to
church on Sundays.

Also the price was very competitive and the only cars of that type
around here are priced a lot more at a main Audi dealer and there are
very few of them elsewhere.

The garage that did the local inspection said that apart from the issues
they raised its in good condition, and they couldn't fault it other than
a service is almost due which I'm OK paying for..

And if we do take it back and get our money back we're wasting more time
looking for another one which could have "x" number of latent faults
thereon.

What I was concerned about is this coil pack issue which it seems to me
has been going on for a very long time now with VAG cars, and further
reading of a 60,000 mile review of one said that pads and discs were
changed at 20,000 miles, and more pads at 38,000 miles and seems that
further ones are almost due which does seem rather excessive to me.


Can't remember when they were done on my other A6 Avant of 1995 vintage
thats now done 195,000 miles with no problems to speak of at all, apart
from a sometimes misfire which goes as rapidly as it comes. Its got one
of they olde fashioned coils with a high voltage switchgear distribution
system..

Cheers...

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Old August 16th 10, 10:57 AM posted to alt.autos.audi
Mark[_35_]
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Default Audi A6 ignition woes;(..

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:40:46 +0100, tony sayer >
wrote:

>In article >, Mark Opolo
> scribeth thus
>>
>>"tony sayer" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>> Hi..
>>>
>>> Just bought an S/H Audi A6 from a large London dealer and all seemed
>>> fine on a short local test drive. On the way home on the motorway a
>>> brake problem reared its ugly head which seems all due to shot pads and
>>> discs. Seems to brake as well as any but very strange noise sounds like
>>> ABS left on when braking over a slippery road or gravel which it isn't..
>>>
>>> Also car developed very bad misfire, not much pleased. Took car to local
>>> dealer who reckoned that a a total brake re line with new discs was in
>>> order and that a coil pack had failed causing the misfire. Original
>>> supplier company have offered to drag the car back to their workshop for
>>> repair but I have lost confidence in them so they have offered to pay
>>> the costs of a repair at the local Audi dealer which I much prefer.
>>>
>>> Any else have adverse brake experiences o been affected by what seems a
>>> serious problem with these coil packs?..
>>>
>>> cheers...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tony Sayer
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>ME...........I would let the original garage recover it and then get your
>>money back. You just don't know what else is going to crop up.
>>

>
>Yes point taken. We did and can do that under the sale of goods act but
>as most cars it seems, come from an ex lease source around the 3 year
>mark I suspect that most others up for sale are from that source too. It
>seems that very few have been used by the little 'ole lady to go to
>church on Sundays.
>
>Also the price was very competitive and the only cars of that type
>around here are priced a lot more at a main Audi dealer and there are
>very few of them elsewhere.
>
>The garage that did the local inspection said that apart from the issues
>they raised its in good condition, and they couldn't fault it other than
>a service is almost due which I'm OK paying for..
>
>And if we do take it back and get our money back we're wasting more time
>looking for another one which could have "x" number of latent faults
>thereon.
>
>What I was concerned about is this coil pack issue which it seems to me
>has been going on for a very long time now with VAG cars, and further
>reading of a 60,000 mile review of one said that pads and discs were
>changed at 20,000 miles, and more pads at 38,000 miles and seems that
>further ones are almost due which does seem rather excessive to me.
>
>Can't remember when they were done on my other A6 Avant of 1995 vintage
>thats now done 195,000 miles with no problems to speak of at all, apart
>from a sometimes misfire which goes as rapidly as it comes. Its got one
>of they olde fashioned coils with a high voltage switchgear distribution
>system..


FWIW I'd be more concerned about the brake issue. The vendor should
have spotted this before selling you the car and this could be
potentially dangerous. OTOH Coil packs *can* fail without warning.

However finding a decent second hand car can be very difficult and I
would be inclined to keep it as you have had it inspected. I would
always advise getting a car inspected /before/ buying but if the
original garage have offered to pay for the repairs then you are in a
good position.

IME weak spots on the A6 a
- Track rod ends
- Water pump
- Electric windows

(The brake discs on mine have worn quicker than I expected so will
need replacing soon.)
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Old August 16th 10, 09:28 PM posted to alt.autos.audi
Clive[_2_]
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Default Audi A6 ignition woes;(..

In message >, tony sayer
> writes
>Any else have adverse brake experiences o been affected by what seems a
>serious problem with these coil packs?..

Do you not remember a few years ago where "Top Gear" took out an ad in a
car rag asking for something like 12 million coil sets because of faults
on VW marque cars.
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  #6  
Old August 16th 10, 11:00 PM posted to alt.autos.audi
tony sayer
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Default Audi A6 ignition woes;(..

In article >, Clive
> scribeth thus
>In message >, tony sayer
> writes
>>Any else have adverse brake experiences o been affected by what seems a
>>serious problem with these coil packs?..

>Do you not remember a few years ago where "Top Gear" took out an ad in a
>car rag asking for something like 12 million coil sets because of faults
>on VW marque cars.


No sorry I didn't see that. I don't normally watch that much TV
anymore;!...
--
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Old August 16th 10, 11:07 PM posted to alt.autos.audi
tony sayer
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Default Audi A6 ignition woes;(..

>>Can't remember when they were done on my other A6 Avant of 1995 vintage
>>thats now done 195,000 miles with no problems to speak of at all, apart
>>from a sometimes misfire which goes as rapidly as it comes. Its got one
>>of they olde fashioned coils with a high voltage switchgear distribution
>>system..

>
>FWIW I'd be more concerned about the brake issue. The vendor should
>have spotted this before selling you the car and this could be
>potentially dangerous. OTOH Coil packs *can* fail without warning.
>
>However finding a decent second hand car can be very difficult and I
>would be inclined to keep it as you have had it inspected. I would
>always advise getting a car inspected /before/ buying but if the
>original garage have offered to pay for the repairs then you are in a
>good position.
>


Well they have put that in writing and the brakes have been re disc'ed
and padded all round and there're now fine, and the fault has
disappeared.

Coil pack changed and car serviced and all in all seems a very good car
for the money...

As to inspection I was a bit annoyed for not noticing the condition of
the discs as there're quite easy to see and run a fingernail over.

Still I suppose thats the problem when the missus and nippers are all
milling around urging you to buy it got a bit distracted;!...


>IME weak spots on the A6 a
>- Track rod ends
>- Water pump
>- Electric windows


I'll bear those in mind..

>
>(The brake discs on mine have worn quicker than I expected so will
>need replacing soon.)


There was a review on one of the car sites where they took a 2.? Engined
car for a good strip down and IIRC the discs were changed once already
at 20,000 and needed doing again at 60,000 plus pads of course they were
quite complementary on the rest of the car..
--
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Old August 17th 10, 08:57 AM posted to alt.autos.audi
Mark[_35_]
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:07:50 +0100, tony sayer >
wrote:

>>>Can't remember when they were done on my other A6 Avant of 1995 vintage
>>>thats now done 195,000 miles with no problems to speak of at all, apart
>>>from a sometimes misfire which goes as rapidly as it comes. Its got one
>>>of they olde fashioned coils with a high voltage switchgear distribution
>>>system..

>>
>>FWIW I'd be more concerned about the brake issue. The vendor should
>>have spotted this before selling you the car and this could be
>>potentially dangerous. OTOH Coil packs *can* fail without warning.
>>
>>However finding a decent second hand car can be very difficult and I
>>would be inclined to keep it as you have had it inspected. I would
>>always advise getting a car inspected /before/ buying but if the
>>original garage have offered to pay for the repairs then you are in a
>>good position.
>>

>
>Well they have put that in writing and the brakes have been re disc'ed
>and padded all round and there're now fine, and the fault has
>disappeared.
>
>Coil pack changed and car serviced and all in all seems a very good car
>for the money...
>
>As to inspection I was a bit annoyed for not noticing the condition of
>the discs as there're quite easy to see and run a fingernail over.
>
>Still I suppose thats the problem when the missus and nippers are all
>milling around urging you to buy it got a bit distracted;!...
>
>
>>IME weak spots on the A6 a
>>- Track rod ends
>>- Water pump
>>- Electric windows

>
>I'll bear those in mind..
>
>>
>>(The brake discs on mine have worn quicker than I expected so will
>>need replacing soon.)

>
>There was a review on one of the car sites where they took a 2.? Engined
>car for a good strip down and IIRC the discs were changed once already
>at 20,000 and needed doing again at 60,000 plus pads of course they were
>quite complementary on the rest of the car..


It's a good car IMHO but too many small niggles to make it great. And
the fuel consumption is abysmal.

Mine has done nearly 70K and the discs are needing replacement soon
but I don't think they have been done before.

Which one have you got BTW? I have the 2.4 petrol V6.
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Old August 17th 10, 10:57 AM posted to alt.autos.audi
tony sayer
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>>>(The brake discs on mine have worn quicker than I expected so will
>>>need replacing soon.)

>>
>>There was a review on one of the car sites where they took a 2.? Engined
>>car for a good strip down and IIRC the discs were changed once already
>>at 20,000 and needed doing again at 60,000 plus pads of course they were
>>quite complementary on the rest of the car..

>
>It's a good car IMHO but too many small niggles to make it great.


Yes pity they never seem to sort that sort of thing. The reality doesn't
quite go with the projected image. Like this silly coil pack business
Bloke at the local Audi dealer sez he's never heard of problems, but why
are the doing a structured recall for this problem in America and
Canada...

> And
>the fuel consumption is abysmal.
>
>Mine has done nearly 70K and the discs are needing replacement soon
>but I don't think they have been done before.


Suppose its down to driving style a lot of the time. I try not to use
the brakes unless I -need- to;;

>
>Which one have you got BTW? I have the 2.4 petrol V6.



Its a 2 litre turbo. Seems that fuel consumption isn't that noticeable
either way but as yet we, rather I, haven't used it much. Missus has
taken it off to France but hasn't commented either way .. still, after a
2.5 Volvo estate most anything has to be better;!..

Main thing is she's very happy with it, so all is well..

My olde 2.0 SE A6 1995 estate still does around 31 "ish" mixed driving
and can still be rather spritely despite its 190 K plus miles...


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Old August 17th 10, 12:27 PM posted to alt.autos.audi
Mark[_35_]
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:57:16 +0100, tony sayer >
wrote:

>>>>(The brake discs on mine have worn quicker than I expected so will
>>>>need replacing soon.)
>>>
>>>There was a review on one of the car sites where they took a 2.? Engined
>>>car for a good strip down and IIRC the discs were changed once already
>>>at 20,000 and needed doing again at 60,000 plus pads of course they were
>>>quite complementary on the rest of the car..

>>
>>It's a good car IMHO but too many small niggles to make it great.

>
>Yes pity they never seem to sort that sort of thing. The reality doesn't
>quite go with the projected image. Like this silly coil pack business
>Bloke at the local Audi dealer sez he's never heard of problems, but why
>are the doing a structured recall for this problem in America and
>Canada...
>
>> And
>>the fuel consumption is abysmal.
>>
>>Mine has done nearly 70K and the discs are needing replacement soon
>>but I don't think they have been done before.

>
>Suppose its down to driving style a lot of the time. I try not to use
>the brakes unless I -need- to;;


;-)

>>
>>Which one have you got BTW? I have the 2.4 petrol V6.

>
>Its a 2 litre turbo. Seems that fuel consumption isn't that noticeable
>either way but as yet we, rather I, haven't used it much. Missus has
>taken it off to France but hasn't commented either way .. still, after a
>2.5 Volvo estate most anything has to be better;!..


Mine displays the fuel consumption on the dash so it's hard to ignore.

>Main thing is she's very happy with it, so all is well..
>
>My olde 2.0 SE A6 1995 estate still does around 31 "ish" mixed driving
>and can still be rather spritely despite its 190 K plus miles...


That's good. The best I get is low 20's.
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