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rear engine versus mid engine?
On 9/4/2013 9:05 PM, jim beam wrote:
> On 09/04/2013 11:20 AM, dsi1 wrote: >> On 9/3/2013 3:15 PM, jim beam wrote: >>> On 09/03/2013 06:06 PM, dsi1 wrote: >>>> On 9/3/2013 2:33 PM, Nate Nagel wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Which is pretty flyweight by today's standards, >>>>> actually. I think the >>>>> Lotus Elise may beat that but I'm not thinking of >>>>> anything else off the >>>>> top of my head. The googs tells me that the Subaru BRZ >>>>> weighs over >>>>> 2700 >>>>> lbs, and pretty much anything else of any interest >>>>> likely weighs over >>>>> 3000 lbs. >>>>> >>>>> nate >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cars have changed considerably since the 70s. The cars I >>>> drove weighed >>>> in at around a ton or less. The Alfetta GTV that I had >>>> was a real >>>> heavyweight at 2400 lbs. >>> >>> sold have gotten an alfa gta! >> >> I wasn't real interested in that one. A 1970 GTV would >> have been my >> dream car. > > yes, they're yummy, but my point was that the gta is the > aluminum lightweight version of the gtv. or so i've been > lead to believe. > > >> >>> >>> >>>> These days, there are sports cars that weight >>>> over a ton and a half. You would have thought that the >>>> cars would have >>>> gotten lighter. That's the breaks. >>> >>> it's all driven by govt mandated "safety" - discretely >>> lobbied for and >>> sponsored by the oil industry. that's how we have cars >>> today, despite >>> considerably improved engine and combustion technology, >>> still averaging >>> the same gas consumption, or worse, than cars from the >>> 70's and 80's. >>> >>> don't believe me? we could all be driving >>> aluminum/composite cars that >>> are "safer" for very little extra cost. we could all be >>> driving cars >>> with real tubular safety cages, 6 point harnesses and >>> have mandated >>> helmets, for very little if any extra cost. instead, we >>> have cars full >>> of bull**** "safety" features that can actually be >>> hazardous [airbags] >>> and whose increased weights dramatically decrease >>> maneuverability and >>> increase stopping distances. >>> >>> >> > > Indeed GTA 163hp over 1600lbs ! Sweet. Or should I say dolce. -- Andrew Muzi <www.yellowjersey.org/> Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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