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Old June 16th 04, 01:38 PM
Joe Hudon
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I'll start with my regular disclaimer: I'm no mechanic, I just
inherited the car...

I have a 1956 Olds 98 Holiday 4-Door. In the past couple of years
I've been having problems with the power brake booster. Whenever I
apply pressure to the brake pedal, I have to assist in getting the
pedal to disengage by pull the pedal back up with my foot. Obviously
there's a problem with the vacuum in the booster.

So, I've been thinking of options about getting the booster rebuilt or
obtaining another booster (which is not an easy feat). However, I've
been reading through some other postings to this group about vacuum
problems with windshield wipers. The wipers on my car do not work.
They only lift a couple inches then stop.

My questions: Could there be a problem with the engine vacuum rather
than the brake booster and the wipers themselves? Do the wipers and
booster work on the same vacuum?

Any input on the working of the engine vacuum system would be
appreciated. Thanks.

Joe
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Old June 16th 04, 07:18 PM
Bela Gazdy
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Joe Hudon > wrote:
JH> I'll start with my regular disclaimer: I'm no mechanic, I just
JH> inherited the car...

JH> I have a 1956 Olds 98 Holiday 4-Door. In the past couple of years
JH> I've been having problems with the power brake booster. Whenever I
JH> apply pressure to the brake pedal, I have to assist in getting the
JH> pedal to disengage by pull the pedal back up with my foot. Obviously
JH> there's a problem with the vacuum in the booster.

JH> So, I've been thinking of options about getting the booster rebuilt or
JH> obtaining another booster (which is not an easy feat). However, I've
JH> been reading through some other postings to this group about vacuum
JH> problems with windshield wipers. The wipers on my car do not work.
JH> They only lift a couple inches then stop.

JH> My questions: Could there be a problem with the engine vacuum rather
JH> than the brake booster and the wipers themselves? Do the wipers and
JH> booster work on the same vacuum?

JH> Any input on the working of the engine vacuum system would be
JH> appreciated. Thanks.

JH> Joe

I do not think that vacuum or lack of it has anything to do with your non-
returning brake pedal. The return coil spring must have been broken inside
the booster. If you have good power assist otherwise, the broken/weak spring
is the likely source of your brake problem.

The wiper might also have internal problem(s). It would be a good investment
to by a vacuum gauge, so you can check whether you have vacuum before the
vacuum motor of the wipers. With the engine running, remove the vacuum hose
at the wiper, and see if you can hear (feel with your finger) the vacuum. Not
very scientific or quantitative, but gives you a clue.

Vacuum is supplied by the manifold, and maybe by a vacuum pump which is
normally integral to the fuel pump (dual action fuel pump). I don't know if
'56 Olds had vacuum pumps or not. Even if it's the same vacuum, the two
circuits must be isolated by check valves. If you're serious about tinkering
with your automobile, a Factory Service Manual would pay for itself with the
first repair you'll do.

You're right about the difficulty of getting a new/rebuilt booster. Check
Hemmings for rebuilding services, and/or scour eBay -- EVERYTHING turns up
on eBay if you have time and patience...

-Bela
 




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