I am not the LLB!!

I hate this more than anything.

Two, maybe three lanes of freeway. Doing about 75, 77 or so in a 65,
roughly at or slightly above the 85th percentile speed. I get into the
left lane to pass some slower traffic, and lo and behold, there's
mister LLB, poking along at 65. I creep in behind him, s.l.o.w.l.y.
passing the other traffic. Another car slowly catches up to us over
the course of a couple of miles.

Then the insane but predictable, the car starts darting in and out of
lanes until he squeezes into the 6 or 7 car length gap between me and
the LLB. He pulls up to the tail of the LLB. Finally, the LLB moves
out of the way, and the guy pushing him??

He becomes a slightly faster LLB. Instead of being stuck behind an LLB
doing 65, I'm now behind one doing 69.

Similarly, there's the people that pull up almost to the rear bumper
while I'm maintaining a few car lengths behind an LLB. This is a
favorite of people that drive large pickups and SUVs to compensate
for part of their anatomy. As soon as the LLB changes lanes, I drive
off and leave them sitting back there, never to be seen again, until I
get hung up behind another LLB.

Why is this?

In article .com>, wrote:

> while I'm maintaining a few car lengths behind an LLB. This is a
> favorite of people that drive large pickups and SUVs to compensate
> for part of their anatomy. As soon as the LLB changes lanes, I drive
> off and leave them sitting back there, never to be seen again, until I
> get hung up behind another LLB.

> Why is this?

Because you are not doing anything about the LLB I'll guess or they are
just morons. Since you are refering to tailgating to pressure you I'll go
with the later, but if you are so far behind the LLB that someone can
comfortably change lanes into that gap you're at the very least
magnifying the problem the LLB is creating. That space will be used by
others to move into who may be even slower LLBs, it also sends a message
to the LLB that he's doing nothing wrong.

Most secondary LLBs, the ones who sit in the left lane behind an LLB are
no better than the driver they are behind. Usually they tailgate the LLB
so I sit back and use my left turn signal to try to indicate to the moron
that he needs to wake up the LLB in front of him. rarely works that way
but sometimes it gets them to move right in which case I can work on
waking up the LLB. Much of the time the LLB eventually moves over on his own
and the secondary just takes his place.

Brent P:
> Most secondary LLBs, the ones who sit in the left lane behind an LLB are
> no better than the driver they are behind. Usually they tailgate the LLB
> so I sit back and use my left turn signal to try to indicate to the moron
> that he needs to wake up the LLB in front of him. rarely works that way
> but sometimes it gets them to move right in which case I can work on
> waking up the LLB. Much of the time the LLB eventually moves over on his own
> and the secondary just takes his place.

Since I usually KRETP anyway, I just pass them on the right and be done
with them. And most of the time, the right lane is clear for miles
anyway.

--
necromancer

Deadly Psychopath. And Proud of it, Man!!

! wrote:
> I hate this more than anything.
>
> Two, maybe three lanes of freeway. Doing about 75, 77 or so in a 65,
> roughly at or slightly above the 85th percentile speed.

Oh shut up with that 85th percentile crap, you criminal coddler. Nobody
wants to hear how it's ok to break the law as long as somebody else is
doing the same. Stop being a sheep and going along with the crowd on
everything.

! wrote:
> I hate this more than anything.
>
> Two, maybe three lanes of freeway. Doing about 75, 77 or so in a 65,
> roughly at or slightly above the 85th percentile speed. I get into the
> left lane to pass some slower traffic, and lo and behold, there's
> mister LLB, poking along at 65. I creep in behind him, s.l.o.w.l.y.
> passing the other traffic. Another car slowly catches up to us over
> the course of a couple of miles.
>
> Then the insane but predictable, the car starts darting in and out of
> lanes until he squeezes into the 6 or 7 car length gap between me and
> the LLB. He pulls up to the tail of the LLB. Finally, the LLB moves
> out of the way, and the guy pushing him??

That's a lot of real estate. I occasionally see morons squeeze into a
2-3 car length gap in front of me.

>
> He becomes a slightly faster LLB. Instead of being stuck behind an LLB
> doing 65, I'm now behind one doing 69.
>
> Similarly, there's the people that pull up almost to the rear bumper
> while I'm maintaining a few car lengths behind an LLB.

This sounds strikingly familiar to me.

> This is a
> favorite of people that drive large pickups and SUVs to compensate
> for part of their anatomy. As soon as the LLB changes lanes, I drive
> off and leave them sitting back there, never to be seen again, until I
> get hung up behind another LLB.
>

Last time this happened to me it was a ****ing Honda Accord.

> Why is this?
>

People are assholes.

On Jun 19, 11:43 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> wrote:
> ! wrote:
> > I hate this more than anything.
>
> > Two, maybe three lanes of freeway. Doing about 75, 77 or so in a 65,
> > roughly at or slightly above the 85th percentile speed.
>
> Oh shut up with that 85th percentile crap, you criminal coddler. Nobody
> wants to hear how it's ok to break the law as long as somebody else is
> doing the same.

This coming from a nutjob who professes to throw marbles out the
window, as if that's not against the law.

On Jun 19, 7:47 am, (Brent P)
wrote:
> In article .com>, wrote:
>
> > while I'm maintaining a few car lengths behind an LLB. This is a
> > favorite of people that drive large pickups and SUVs to compensate
> > for part of their anatomy. As soon as the LLB changes lanes, I drive
> > off and leave them sitting back there, never to be seen again, until I
> > get hung up behind another LLB.
> > Why is this?
>
> Because you are not doing anything about the LLB I'll guess or they are
> just morons. Since you are refering to tailgating to pressure you I'll go
> with the later, but if you are so far behind the LLB that someone can
> comfortably change lanes into that gap you're at the very least
> magnifying the problem the LLB is creating.

But that's the problem, they're not comfortably changing lanes. I've
got 6-7 car lengths tops. They'll nearly take my right front fender
off, then accelerate up to the tail of the LLB, then brake.

And what can I do to the LLB besides tailgate? It's been my experience
that if you tailgate someone, they'll deliberately drive slower out of
spite, or even hit the brakes. And if you do tailgate, the secondary
LLB that would have jumped between you just pulls up on your tail,
boxing you in in the middle of a three car draft train, which is a
situation I don't want to be in.

In article . com>, wrote:
> On Jun 19, 7:47 am, (Brent P)
> wrote:
>> In article .com>, wrote:
>>
>> > while I'm maintaining a few car lengths behind an LLB. This is a
>> > favorite of people that drive large pickups and SUVs to compensate
>> > for part of their anatomy. As soon as the LLB changes lanes, I drive
>> > off and leave them sitting back there, never to be seen again, until I
>> > get hung up behind another LLB.
>> > Why is this?
>>
>> Because you are not doing anything about the LLB I'll guess or they are
>> just morons. Since you are refering to tailgating to pressure you I'll go
>> with the later, but if you are so far behind the LLB that someone can
>> comfortably change lanes into that gap you're at the very least
>> magnifying the problem the LLB is creating.
>
> But that's the problem, they're not comfortably changing lanes. I've
> got 6-7 car lengths tops. They'll nearly take my right front fender
> off, then accelerate up to the tail of the LLB, then brake.

because they see you as an LLB too because you are so far back.

> And what can I do to the LLB besides tailgate?

Left turn signal. flash-to-pass. flash the fog lamps or normal headlamps.

> It's been my experience
> that if you tailgate someone, they'll deliberately drive slower out of
> spite, or even hit the brakes.

Very few LLBs do as they are either totally brain dead or know exactly
what they are doing.

> And if you do tailgate, the secondary
> LLB that would have jumped between you just pulls up on your tail,
> boxing you in in the middle of a three car draft train, which is a
> situation I don't want to be in.

When someone insists on tailgating me in a situation where there is
someone in front of me, I just move right as soon as I can and then make
a gesture to the driver that was behind me that the lane is his. He can
then snuggle up to the bumper of the vehicle that was in front of me.

> Why is this?

Your practice of catching up s.l.o.w.l.y to the LLB may be part of the
problem. It doesn't make it obvious to him that you want him to get
over.

Roar up to 1-2 car lengths behind him, honk, then back off, and he'll
be more likely to notice you. (Don't repeat on the same guy -- if he
doesn't take the hint the first time, he knows and has decided to block
you, so it's probably more cost effective to find a creative way to get
past him in other lane/s.)

John David Galt wrote:
>>Why is this?
>
>
> Your practice of catching up s.l.o.w.l.y to the LLB may be part of the
> problem. It doesn't make it obvious to him that you want him to get
> over.
>
> Roar up to 1-2 car lengths behind him, honk, then back off,


Yeah - you better back off if you pull that **** on me because if you
don't, you're assured of being slowed down.

I can only follow so closely and your being 1-2 car lengths off my ass
at 75 is not going to make me go faster. And even if I did close the
gap between me and the person in front of me, I wouldn't be going
faster, I'd still be going the same speed.

> and he'll
> be more likely to notice you. (Don't repeat on the same guy -- if he
> doesn't take the hint the first time, he knows and has decided to block
> you, so it's probably more cost effective to find a creative way to get
> past him in other lane/s.)