What about the drag racer who KILLED SIX SPECTATORS on saturday? Why hasn't he been charged w murder?

"armpit" > wrote in message
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> "Frank from Deeetroit" > wrote in message
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>> "!" > wrote in message
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>>> On Jun 17, 11:05 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
>>> > wrote:
>>>> Drag racing on a city street and loses control but is let off the hook
>>>> with the standard excuse -- Hey dood. It was an accident.
>>>
>>> This was a sanctioned event. The person really responsible for these
>>> people's death are the organizers that allowed people to get this
>>> close to that fast of a car.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> A properly sanctioned street event would have Jersey barriers, cabled
>> together, with fencing to contain any crash debris from the spectators.
>> Most likely the city, the organizers, and the driver will be held
>> accountable in all of the civil cases that will spring out of this
>> unfortunate accident.
>
> Have you actually read anything about this incident? It wasn't a
> sanctioned race. It was a charity car show/parade. The drag cars were
> doing abbreviated burnouts in a guardrailed section of the road. Tony
> Critchley did an extended burnout, lost control, and swerved into the
> crowd beyond the guardrails. There have been no reports as to whether
> Crithcley was reckless or had mechnical failure e.g. a stuck throttle.
>

Yes I did, and I watched the video of the event that took place on a public
street. The Cars for Kids 18th annual event is (should say was) an
organized charity fundraising event. Horsepower TV did a custom paint job
on the founder of the charitys car earlier this season.

However the vehicle operator lost control, control was lost and the
responsibility is with the driver of the vehicle. It appears as if he
struck a utility pole, at the speeds he was traveling, guardrails most
likely would not have prevented the car from going into the crowd. I am
surprised that the local authorities permitted such displays of performance
on a public road. A lawyer is going to have a field day with this one.

On a race track, drivers's operation is a whole different story, on a public
street, safe and legal operation is the driver's responsibility.

"Frank from Deeetroit" > wrote in
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> "armpit" > wrote in message
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>> "Frank from Deeetroit" > wrote in message
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>>> "!" > wrote in message
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>>>> On Jun 17, 11:05 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> Drag racing on a city street and loses control but is let off the
>>>>> hook with the standard excuse -- Hey dood. It was an accident.
>>>>
>>>> This was a sanctioned event. The person really responsible for
>>>> these people's death are the organizers that allowed people to get
>>>> this close to that fast of a car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> A properly sanctioned street event would have Jersey barriers,
>>> cabled together, with fencing to contain any crash debris from the
>>> spectators. Most likely the city, the organizers, and the driver
>>> will be held accountable in all of the civil cases that will spring
>>> out of this unfortunate accident.
>>
>> Have you actually read anything about this incident? It wasn't a
>> sanctioned race. It was a charity car show/parade. The drag cars were
>> doing abbreviated burnouts in a guardrailed section of the road. Tony
>> Critchley did an extended burnout, lost control, and swerved into the
>> crowd beyond the guardrails. There have been no reports as to whether
>> Crithcley was reckless or had mechnical failure e.g. a stuck
>> throttle.
>>
>
> Yes I did, and I watched the video of the event that took place on a
> public street. The Cars for Kids 18th annual event is (should say
> was) an organized charity fundraising event. Horsepower TV did a
> custom paint job on the founder of the charitys car earlier this
> season.
>
> However the vehicle operator lost control, control was lost and the
> responsibility is with the driver of the vehicle. It appears as if he
> struck a utility pole, at the speeds he was traveling, guardrails most
> likely would not have prevented the car from going into the crowd. I
> am surprised that the local authorities permitted such displays of
> performance on a public road.

They probably were unaware that such activities would take
place.(burnouts,"racing"..)
Even the event promoters may not have guessed that their parade drivers
would do this.

> A lawyer is going to have a field day
> with this one.

It's a tossup whether the event insurance or the driver's insurance or BOTH
will have to pay out. If there was event insurance!
The charity may have a net LOSS,not any gain.
>
> On a race track, drivers's operation is a whole different story, on a
> public street, safe and legal operation is the driver's
> responsibility.


I wonder if they guy's insurance company is going to drop him?
they probably are freaking out!
His rates are sure to increase!

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Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

On Jun 18, 10:03 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> wrote:
> BS. You think the driver should be absolved just because he was hired
> to do this crazy stunt??? If someone pays me a thousand bucks to toss a
> bomb in a crowd, am i let off just because just because i was hired??
> THINK, you fuzzy-brained criminal coddler.

The only criminal I'd coddle is the one that runs over you and leaves
your entrails scattered on the pavement.

The driver cannot completely be absolved, he did lose control.

But he isn't the only one to blame.

The organizers of this event shouldn't have allowed these burnouts on
a street with that little protection to begin with. It should have
been held at a local racetrack or other closed off area.

The local officials should not have allowed the event to take place on
a public street.

The spectators shouldn't have been that close to the street. It's
common sense that you don't want to be near a huge piece of machinery
going 100 mph.

Everyone deserves some blame for the situation that occurred.

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> On Jun 18, 10:03 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> wrote:
>> BS. You think the driver should be absolved just because he was hired
>> to do this crazy stunt??? If someone pays me a thousand bucks to toss a
>> bomb in a crowd, am i let off just because just because i was hired??
>> THINK, you fuzzy-brained criminal coddler.
>
> The only criminal I'd coddle is the one that runs over you and leaves
> your entrails scattered on the pavement.
>
> The driver cannot completely be absolved, he did lose control.
>
> But he isn't the only one to blame.
>
> The organizers of this event shouldn't have allowed these burnouts on
> a street with that little protection to begin with. It should have
> been held at a local racetrack or other closed off area.

I wonder if the burnouts were a spur of the moment idea on one driver's
part,and other drivers followed?
>
> The local officials should not have allowed the event to take place on
> a public street.

I believe it was supposed to be a "parade".
>
> The spectators shouldn't have been that close to the street. It's
> common sense that you don't want to be near a huge piece of machinery
> going 100 mph.

I doubt the charity knew or could foresee that the drivers would do the
reckless driving that they did;it was supposed to be a "parade".
>
> Everyone deserves some blame for the situation that occurred.
>
>



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" > wrote in
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> Frank from Deeetroit wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> A properly sanctioned street event would have Jersey barriers, cabled
>> together, with fencing to contain any crash debris from the spectators.
>> Most likely the city, the organizers, and the driver will be held
>> accountable in all of the civil cases that will spring out of this
>> unfortunate accident.
>
> "Unfortunate accident"?? Is that what you call this? The driver and the
> organizers should go to prison for decades. If not murder, this was at
> the very least manslaughter. Stop being a criminal coddler.

This is a case of vehicluar homicide. Yes, it is unfortunate, you ****wit.

On Jun 18, 1:21 am, ! > wrote:
> On Jun 17, 11:05 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
>
> > wrote:
> > Drag racing on a city street and loses control but is let off the hook
> > with the standard excuse -- Hey dood. It was an accident.
>
> This was a sanctioned event. The person really responsible for these
> people's death are the organizers that allowed people to get this
> close to that fast of a car.

It was a _parade_. There was no drag racing involved. The "burn out"
was a scheduled event at the end of the parade (per my paper) that had
been done every year for the past several. Why the car gotout of
control is under investigation.

Harry K

In article >,
Jim Yanik > wrote:

>I would say the driver WAS being reckless doing such things as burnouts
>with bystanders nearby.

>Do the same thing in town with a cop nearby,and they will write you a
>ticket for reckless driving.

So what? The fact that cops object to something doesn't make it per
se reckless.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.

! wrote:
> On Jun 18, 10:03 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> > wrote:
>> BS. You think the driver should be absolved just because he was hired
>> to do this crazy stunt??? If someone pays me a thousand bucks to toss a
>> bomb in a crowd, am i let off just because just because i was hired??
>> THINK, you fuzzy-brained criminal coddler.
>
> The only criminal I'd coddle is the one that runs over you and leaves
> your entrails scattered on the pavement.
>
> The driver cannot completely be absolved, he did lose control.
>
> But he isn't the only one to blame.
>
> The organizers of this event shouldn't have allowed these burnouts on
> a street with that little protection to begin with. It should have
> been held at a local racetrack or other closed off area.
>
> The local officials should not have allowed the event to take place on
> a public street.
>
> The spectators shouldn't have been that close to the street. It's
> common sense that you don't want to be near a huge piece of machinery
> going 100 mph.
>
> Everyone deserves some blame for the situation that occurred.
>

I'm not arguing any of that. But the bottom line is the driver was
driving the vehicle and he has to take the lion's share of the blame. He
deserves decades of can time but i bet he doesn't do a day in criminal
coddler tennessee.

On Jun 18, 11:13 pm, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> wrote:
> ! wrote:
> > On Jun 18, 10:03 am, Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> > > wrote:
> >> BS. You think the driver should be absolved just because he was hired
> >> to do this crazy stunt??? If someone pays me a thousand bucks to toss a
> >> bomb in a crowd, am i let off just because just because i was hired??
> >> THINK, you fuzzy-brained criminal coddler.
>
> > The only criminal I'd coddle is the one that runs over you and leaves
> > your entrails scattered on the pavement.

> I'm not arguing any of that.

Good, I'm glad you and I both agree that you need to be run over.

Mike Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 01:21:02 -0700, ! >
> wrote:

>> This was a sanctioned event. The person really responsible for these
>> people's death are the organizers that allowed people to get this
>> close to that fast of a car.
>
> Always someone else's fault, eh?
>
>

The organizers certainly do deserve some blame but the big villain has
to be the nut doing burnouts on a city street. He should be locked up
forever but i bet he just pays a fine.