Whos left on here whos an ardent VW driver.

I'm surprised Usenet is still here. AOL and some others dropped it. So I'm
starting this off by trying to see who's left on here. none2 you, (fake
name) Old VW fanatic, Second car was a rusty bug with no heat. Owned a
bunch of A2 Golfs , 1 Rabbit, A truck diesel , A vanagon diesel that I blew
to smithereens . All mostly diesels. Everything used or rusty to some
extent. Turned of completely by VW series three through five , and VWs
corporate and dealer shenanigans. I'm giving them plenty of slack on the
New VWs because feedback has been good so far. But not the Corporate plans ,
or dealer tactics which still suck. I'm down to one 86 VW Golf diesel now .
I sold the bug in the garage that was buried last summer.

vwdoc1.......Present!
Been in them since the early 70's, but I count the Audis as VWs too. Also count early Porsches too!
too many to list! <g>
"none2u" > wrote in message ...
I'm surprised Usenet is still here. AOL and some others dropped it. So I'm
starting this off by trying to see who's left on here. none2 you, (fake
name) Old VW fanatic, Second car was a rusty bug with no heat. Owned a
bunch of A2 Golfs , 1 Rabbit, A truck diesel , A vanagon diesel that I blew
to smithereens . All mostly diesels. Everything used or rusty to some
extent. Turned of completely by VW series three through five , and VWs
corporate and dealer shenanigans. I'm giving them plenty of slack on the
New VWs because feedback has been good so far. But not the Corporate plans ,
or dealer tactics which still suck. I'm down to one 86 VW Golf diesel now .
I sold the bug in the garage that was buried last summer.

"none2u" > wrote in message
...
> So I'm starting this off by trying to see who's left on here.

'64 or 65 Beetle (don't recall which)

Later converted to 12V when I installed the engine from a mid-70's beetle
that had been in a front end collision.

'67 Beetle

'75 Rabbit. I had one of the first couple of thousand imported.

'75 Rabbit (yeah, another one)

'84 8V Scirocco

'87 16V Scirocco (high mileage, lousy body, quick)

'87 16V Scirocco (low mileage, great body, not as quick)

I still have the last two.

- Bill

Matt B, aka gti_matt on vwvortex.com...present!

Been driving VWs since 1991 and fairly monogamous.

1991-2007 drove a 1991 Mk2 GTI as my daily.
2002-present drive a 2000 Eurovan as a second weekend-errand and road-trip
mobile which became my daily after I sold the GTI

That's it.

Next car (hopefully this year) may not be a VW...considering used R171-body
Merc SLKs.

If I wasn't so hot on the SLK it'd probably be a 5-door Mk5 GTI or Rabbit
though.

'65 Beetle for my first car. '83 GTI for my first "new" car which I drove
'til 2001 (314,000 miles). '01 Jetta TDI as my current daily driver (my
second "new" car). And a '72 Super Beetle in a million pieces in my garage
(that will someday ride the roads again - after I retire and have the time
to rebuild it - it's only been in my garage for 24 years).

"Bill Leary" > wrote in message
...
> "none2u" > wrote in message
> ...
>> So I'm starting this off by trying to see who's left on here.
>
> '64 or 65 Beetle (don't recall which)
>
> Later converted to 12V when I installed the engine from a mid-70's beetle
> that had been in a front end collision.
>
> '67 Beetle
>
> '75 Rabbit. I had one of the first couple of thousand imported.
>
> '75 Rabbit (yeah, another one)
>
> '84 8V Scirocco
>
> '87 16V Scirocco (high mileage, lousy body, quick)
>
> '87 16V Scirocco (low mileage, great body, not as quick)
>
> I still have the last two.
>
> - Bill
>

"none2u" > wrote in message
...
> I'm surprised Usenet is still here. AOL and some others dropped it. So I'm
> starting this off by trying to see who's left on here. none2 you, (fake
> name) Old VW fanatic, Second car was a rusty bug with no heat. Owned a
> bunch of A2 Golfs , 1 Rabbit, A truck diesel , A vanagon diesel that I
> blew to smithereens . All mostly diesels. Everything used or rusty to
> some extent. Turned of completely by VW series three through five , and
> VWs corporate and dealer shenanigans. I'm giving them plenty of slack on
> the New VWs because feedback has been good so far. But not the Corporate
> plans , or dealer tactics which still suck. I'm down to one 86 VW Golf
> diesel now . I sold the bug in the garage that was buried last summer.
>

Me :-)

had a old white beetle 70 1200, and a golf 1987. also 3 years ago a 1L polo
Ereg, and another one now as my current ride :-)

none2u wrote:
> I'm surprised Usenet is still here. AOL and some others dropped it. So I'm
> starting this off by trying to see who's left on here. none2 you, (fake
> name) Old VW fanatic, Second car was a rusty bug with no heat. Owned a
> bunch of A2 Golfs , 1 Rabbit, A truck diesel , A vanagon diesel that I blew
> to smithereens . All mostly diesels. Everything used or rusty to some
> extent. Turned of completely by VW series three through five , and VWs
> corporate and dealer shenanigans. I'm giving them plenty of slack on the
> New VWs because feedback has been good so far. But not the Corporate plans ,
> or dealer tactics which still suck. I'm down to one 86 VW Golf diesel now .
> I sold the bug in the garage that was buried last summer.
>
>
'61 Beetle when I got married. '75 Rabbit until it died. '90 Golf
Diesel for 3 1/2 years (almost new). Currently '06 Jetta TDI bought new
June '07 (thank heavens for the heated seats!)

Stuart H.

Alberta, Canada

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:06:35 -0500, "none2u" >
wrote:

>I'm surprised Usenet is still here. AOL and some others dropped it.

What's AOL? <bg>

>So I'm
>starting this off by trying to see who's left on here. none2 you, (fake
>name)

I'm here... But I don't count usually!

>Old VW fanatic, Second car was a rusty bug with no heat. Owned a
>bunch of A2 Golfs , 1 Rabbit, A truck diesel , A vanagon diesel that I blew
>to smithereens . All mostly diesels. Everything used or rusty to some
>extent. Turned of completely by VW series three through five , and VWs
>corporate and dealer shenanigans. I'm giving them plenty of slack on the
>New VWs because feedback has been good so far. But not the Corporate plans ,
>or dealer tactics which still suck. I'm down to one 86 VW Golf diesel now .
>I sold the bug in the garage that was buried last summer.
>

On Jan 10, 8:06*pm, "none2u" > wrote:
> I'm surprised Usenet is still here. AOL and some others dropped it. So I'm
> starting this off by trying to see who's left on here. *none2 you, (fake
> name) *Old VW fanatic, Second car was a rusty bug with no heat. *Owned *a
> bunch of A2 Golfs , 1 Rabbit, A truck diesel , A vanagon diesel that I blew
> to smithereens . *All mostly diesels. Everything used or rusty to some
> extent. Turned of completely by VW series three through five *, and VWs
> corporate and dealer shenanigans. *I'm giving them plenty of slack on the
> New VWs because feedback has been good so far. But not the Corporate plans ,
> or dealer tactics which still suck. I'm down to one 86 VW Golf diesel now ..
> I sold the bug in * the garage that was buried last summer.

I'm still mostly lurking, have had at various times:

'84 Rabbit GTI
'84 Scirocco
'89 GTI 16V
'02 GTI 1.8T

also my mom had an '86 Golf which she just sold last year after
driving it as her primary car up until shortly before then.

don't actually own any VWs at the moment because the 1.8T was replaced
with an '88 Porsche 944 when my previous employer decided to make my
position salaried and suddenly I was having a hard time making the
payments. (there's a reason they're my previous employer.) I still
have the 944, but my fiancee has an '89 Corrado G60 which is sadly
disassembled in my garage.

I loved the torque of the 1.8T but I think if I were to get another VW
it would probably be an early Scirocco. Unfortunately I have not been
able to find a decent one for sale, and am not motivated enough to
start searching outside my local area.

nate

On Jan 10, 8:06*pm, "none2u" > wrote:
> I'm surprised Usenet is still here. AOL and some others dropped it. So I'm
> starting this off by trying to see who's left on here. *none2 you, (fake
> name) *Old VW fanatic, Second car was a rusty bug with no heat. *Owned *a
> bunch of A2 Golfs , 1 Rabbit, A truck diesel , A vanagon diesel that I blew
> to smithereens . *All mostly diesels. Everything used or rusty to some
> extent. Turned of completely by VW series three through five *, and VWs
> corporate and dealer shenanigans. *I'm giving them plenty of slack on the
> New VWs because feedback has been good so far. But not the Corporate plans ,
> or dealer tactics which still suck. I'm down to one 86 VW Golf diesel now ..
> I sold the bug in * the garage that was buried last summer.

Well... more-or-less we have never been without a VW in the family for
the last 25 years or so. 36 if my pre-married days are counted. But,
we have not had a VW as the primary driver for now nearly 20 years.
That interval was served by various "kids' cars" and Campers. As of
now, we have the Eurovan camper, a wonderful vehicle for what it does
and our needs. But it is quite unlikely that we will ever have another
VW as the primary. Example: The last two vehicles we purchased (other
than the Eurovan): my wife's 2001 Saab 9-5 SE wagon, 30 months ago:
18,000 miles on it, $18,000 price. In those 30 months and 30,000
miles, nothing other than tires and maintenance. The alternatives at
the time were a Passat wagon that had similar mileage but was a 2003,
or a C320 Mercedes AWD wagon also with similar mileage and a 2002. The
Saab was $15,000 cheaper and did not want premium fuel as did the
other two.

Or my 2005 Volvo XC70 purchased 20 months (and 45,000 miles) ago with
19,000 miles on it - also needing nothing except tires and
maintenance. Price then was $24,900. The alternatives were a Passat
wagon 4motion, a Tuareg, a Volvo V70AWD and a Mercedes E320 AWD
sedan... again, all but the XC70 demanding premium fuel and a good
deal more money.

We typically keep vehicles to well over 200,000 miles - and I have to
"go" in all kinds of conditions without fail. The Passat wagon just
did not have the weight and feel of the Volvo, nor the same level of
safety features (even though the Volvo drives like a truck as far as
turning radius is concerned). The Mercedes did not have the ground-
clearance (yes, the Volvo goes well off paved roads many times each
year), and the Tuareg was an obscenity when it came to gas mileage -
more-so when the premium requirement was factored in.

So, VWs for me will continue to be either a niche item (the camper) or
a means to nostalgia. I do not see them being able to overcome so many
years of wretched quality and (relatively) high prices *and* poor fuel
economy anytime soon. If a diesel should ever join the fold in the
future, it will be a Mercedes. But I suspect a hybrid/alternate will
intrude first given how long we keep vehicles and the advances in
related technology.

Sorry for the rant.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA