Compare global gasoline prices

And quit whining! LOL


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wow, apparently the world needs to get away from Dinosaur fuels and really
do something about Hydrogon and electric alternatives... sooner than later.

"Jan Andersson" > wrote in message
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> And quit whining! LOL
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> http://bp2.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/...ECARSCOOp2.jpg

Jan Andersson wrote:
> And quit whining! LOL
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> http://bp2.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/...ECARSCOOp2.jpg
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Whats missing from your chart is the amount Europe's socialists
governments are adding to the price through taxes. Hydrocarbons are not
from dinosaurs. Check out NASA's report on the methane (natural gas)
oceans on Saturn's moon Titan. You have bought into a story spun by
those eager to control you. At least look in a little deeper.

columbotrek wrote:
> Jan Andersson wrote:
>> And quit whining! LOL
>>
>>
>> http://bp2.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/...ECARSCOOp2.jpg
>>
> Whats missing from your chart is the amount Europe's socialists
> governments are adding to the price through taxes. Hydrocarbons are not
> from dinosaurs. Check out NASA's report on the methane (natural gas)
> oceans on Saturn's moon Titan. You have bought into a story spun by
> those eager to control you. At least look in a little deeper.
>

These are pump prices people have to pay. No story there.

What it's made of is of course a mixture of components that make the
price. In Finland, roughly 75% of gasoline price is taxes.
High taxes on everything buys everyone superior healthcare and welfare
system. And street lights.

In Venezuela, they pay .12 a gallon. (and cry about high gas prices).
In middle east, 50-70 cents. Oil producing countries subventing their
own industry to keep people and businesses mobile in low income environment.

columbotrek wrote:
> Jan Andersson wrote:
>> And quit whining! LOL
>>
>>
>> http://bp2.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/...ECARSCOOp2.jpg
>>
> Whats missing from your chart is the amount Europe's socialists
> governments are adding to the price through taxes. Hydrocarbons are not
> from dinosaurs. Check out NASA's report on the methane (natural gas)
> oceans on Saturn's moon Titan. You have bought into a story spun by
> those eager to control you. At least look in a little deeper.

Forget methane deposits on Saturn. Look at the vast methane deposits in
our own oceans. There is enough known methane in the oceans to supply
our power needs for hundreds of years and think about the deposits we
don't know about. The reason we have a problem with fuel prices right
now is due to the government's inability to mandate requirements to the
oil companies and then give them the ability to meet the demand for
energy by letting them drill wherever needed and build refineries to
produce enough petrol products.

Another place the government is letting us down is in leading the charge
(pun intended) in moving battery technology forward. There is no
reason that we can't have a viable electric car (aka plug in) available
to the consumer. A plug in with a 200-300 mile range would sell big.

Michael Johnson wrote:
> columbotrek wrote:
>> Jan Andersson wrote:
>>> And quit whining! LOL
>>>
>>>
>>> http://bp2.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/...ECARSCOOp2.jpg
>>>
>> Whats missing from your chart is the amount Europe's socialists
>> governments are adding to the price through taxes. Hydrocarbons are
>> not from dinosaurs. Check out NASA's report on the methane (natural
>> gas) oceans on Saturn's moon Titan. You have bought into a story spun
>> by those eager to control you. At least look in a little deeper.
>
> Forget methane deposits on Saturn. Look at the vast methane deposits in
> our own oceans. There is enough known methane in the oceans to supply
> our power needs for hundreds of years and think about the deposits we
> don't know about. The reason we have a problem with fuel prices right
> now is due to the government's inability to mandate requirements to the
> oil companies and then give them the ability to meet the demand for
> energy by letting them drill wherever needed and build refineries to
> produce enough petrol products.
>
> Another place the government is letting us down is in leading the charge
> (pun intended) in moving battery technology forward. There is no
> reason that we can't have a viable electric car (aka plug in) available
> to the consumer. A plug in with a 200-300 mile range would sell big.
As much as plug in cars sounds cool. The power company in California
can't even keep up with current demands without rolling blackouts. How
will they be able to keep up when 30 millions cars need charging as
well? At some point there needs to be a back lash against the
sustainability turds (who have no idea what is sustainable) and get us
moving towards energy independence in a way which raises our standard of
living instead of lowering it. I have tried riding the bus and it sucks.

Columbotrek wrote:
> Michael Johnson wrote:
>> columbotrek wrote:
>>> Jan Andersson wrote:
>>>> And quit whining! LOL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://bp2.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/...ECARSCOOp2.jpg
>>>>
>>> Whats missing from your chart is the amount Europe's socialists
>>> governments are adding to the price through taxes. Hydrocarbons are
>>> not from dinosaurs. Check out NASA's report on the methane (natural
>>> gas) oceans on Saturn's moon Titan. You have bought into a story spun
>>> by those eager to control you. At least look in a little deeper.
>>
>> Forget methane deposits on Saturn. Look at the vast methane deposits
>> in our own oceans. There is enough known methane in the oceans to
>> supply our power needs for hundreds of years and think about the
>> deposits we don't know about. The reason we have a problem with fuel
>> prices right now is due to the government's inability to mandate
>> requirements to the oil companies and then give them the ability to
>> meet the demand for energy by letting them drill wherever needed and
>> build refineries to produce enough petrol products.
>>
>> Another place the government is letting us down is in leading the
>> charge (pun intended) in moving battery technology forward. There is
>> no reason that we can't have a viable electric car (aka plug in)
>> available to the consumer. A plug in with a 200-300 mile range would
>> sell big.
> As much as plug in cars sounds cool. The power company in California
> can't even keep up with current demands without rolling blackouts. How
> will they be able to keep up when 30 millions cars need charging as
> well? At some point there needs to be a back lash against the
> sustainability turds (who have no idea what is sustainable) and get us
> moving towards energy independence in a way which raises our standard of
> living instead of lowering it. I have tried riding the bus and it sucks.

Public transportation isn't the solution for large parts of the country.
I have used Metro on occasion here in the Washington, DC area and find
it to be convenient, reliable and cheap. I agree though that riding a
bus does suck. We could be energy independent is the government and the
energy producing companies would cooperate by formulating a plan and
sticking with it. The trouble, IMO, is the government. Politicians are
more concerned with maintaining or acquiring power than doing what is
best for the country.

I just watched a show on PBS this morning that said the current
electrical grid can handle 60 million electric vehicles. The catch is
the vehicles need to recharge during off peak hours. This should not be
an issue because most of them could be recharged overnight at slower
rates. Also, all of us won't be driving electric cars overnight. It
will be a slow process that will take 10-20 years which is plenty of
time to make changes as needed to keep up with demand. I don't see
where electric power will replace diesel engines used in long haul
trucks, trains, ships etc. for a very long time but they can work for
passenger cars and light trucks.

As for California's electrical problems, it isn't anyone's fault but
their own. They want the electricity but don't want the power plants
that come along with it located in their state. California is
controlled by the tree huggers and why the average person there that
pays the state's tax bills lets them get away with it is beyond me.
California is rapidly letting its economy become "Third World" in
nature. Go to almost any other part of the country and you won't find
these type of problems because those areas don't let the
environmentalists dictate energy policies. Also, these areas aren't
suffering from huge environmental problems from power plants. I don't
feel the least bit sorry for that state because they couldn't care less
about the other 49 states that make up this union.

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:34:18 -0400, Jan Andersson
> wrote:

>And quit whining! LOL
>
>
>http://bp2.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/...ECARSCOOp2.jpg


Station on the California coast selling for $5 per gallon and
customers pay without much fuss. Why? Because the station is so
isolated that customers don't want to end up pushing their rides to
the next station. It's sooooo isolated.... how isolated is it
Johnny?.... it's so isolated that they have to supply their own power
with a diesel generator at a cost of $2000 per day. Of course, that
covers the station, general store residence, post office. And the
owner was talking about a 20 cent increase. Strange that he sounded
like he was from the Middle East.