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  #61  
Old September 12th 05, 07:30 AM
Stephen F.
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"ymenard" > wrote in message
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> >"Byron Forbes" > wrote
>> ICR2 - as you must surely know! I'm sure I saw you all about the ICR2
>> seen
>> back then didn't I?

>
>
> Icr2 was released half a year after GP2. While beloved, Icr2 had major
> flaws itself, no wheel-spin (!!!), laughable physics on ovals, AI that was
> below the one found in Gp2 (which was acceptable at its best).
>
> I'm not putting Gp2 on a pedestral, but to say that Gp2 was bad, well
> people just have short memories.
>


GP2 also inspired an incredibly involving offline competitive environment.
That experience has since been eclipsed by good online racing, but in its
day, it was addictive and it was no problem at all to find the motivation to
run a full-length offline race just to submit the final result to an offline
league.

The first time you went up and over after touching the wheel of a
competitor, you knew GP2 had something in its bag of tricks which ICR2
didn't. Too bad Crammond just missed 3D acceleration with that release, but
the lighting effects he produced in software mode were sweet.

Stephen


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Old September 13th 05, 12:30 AM
Praxiteles Democritus
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:49:08 GMT, Sidney H Bridge
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>ICR2.


GP2 was out before ICR2, sonny.
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Old September 13th 05, 12:36 AM
Jan Verschueren
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"Praxiteles Democritus" wrote...
>>ICR2.

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> GP2 was out before ICR2, sonny.


And was promptly rendered obsolete...

Jan.<g>
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Old September 13th 05, 01:23 AM
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Praxiteles Democritus wrote:

> GP2 was out before ICR2, sonny.


ICR2 was out in 1995. GP2 came out in 96, no?

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Old September 13th 05, 01:33 AM
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jason moyer wrote:
> Praxiteles Democritus wrote:
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> > GP2 was out before ICR2, sonny.

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> ICR2 was out in 1995. GP2 came out in 96, no?


In chronological order, what I would consider the best available sim:

1994 - Nascar Racing
1995 - Indycar Racing 2 (which was reissued in 1996 as CART Racing)
1996 - Grand Prix 2
1998 - Grand Prix Legends2001 - Nascar Racing 4
2002 - Nascar Racing 2002
2003 - Nascar Racing 2003
2004 - Richard Burns Rally
2006? - iRacing

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Old September 13th 05, 07:34 AM
Praxiteles Democritus
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On 12 Sep 2005 17:23:17 -0700, "jason moyer" > wrote:


>ICR2 was out in 1995. GP2 came out in 96, no?


http://www.gamestats.com/objects/003/003337/
IndyCar Racing 2

Release Date: 12/12/96

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/driving/g...x2/review.html
Grand Prix II

Release Date: 06/30/1996


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Old September 13th 05, 08:32 AM
Tony Rickard
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Praxiteles Democritus wrote:
> On 12 Sep 2005 17:23:17 -0700, "jason moyer" > wrote:
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>>ICR2 was out in 1995. GP2 came out in 96, no?

>
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> http://www.gamestats.com/objects/003/003337/
> IndyCar Racing 2
>
> Release Date: 12/12/96
>
> http://www.gamespot.com/pc/driving/g...x2/review.html
> Grand Prix II
>
> Release Date: 06/30/1996


The original DOS only version of ICR2 was released in November/December
1995. I know cos I bought it then!

From Alison Hine's site:

"But oh, those graphics! While the original version of ICR2 was
state-of-the-art in late 1995 when it was released, its graphics have
since been eclipsed by GP2, which has much better texture mapping and a
variety of visual improvements which lend greater realism. When GP2 came
out in the summer of 96, this realism was so appealing that I stopped
playing ICR2 altogether."
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Old September 13th 05, 09:03 AM
jason moyer
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Praxiteles Democritus wrote:

> http://www.gamestats.com/objects/003/003337/
> IndyCar Racing 2
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> Release Date: 12/12/96


That's when the reissue as CART Racing came out. ICR2 was summer of 95.

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Old September 13th 05, 02:37 PM
Byron Forbes
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"Tony Rickard" > wrote in message
.uk...
> Praxiteles Democritus wrote:
>> On 12 Sep 2005 17:23:17 -0700, "jason moyer" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>ICR2 was out in 1995. GP2 came out in 96, no?

>>
>>
>> http://www.gamestats.com/objects/003/003337/
>> IndyCar Racing 2
>>
>> Release Date: 12/12/96
>> http://www.gamespot.com/pc/driving/g...x2/review.html
>> Grand Prix II
>>
>> Release Date: 06/30/1996

>
> The original DOS only version of ICR2 was released in November/December
> 1995. I know cos I bought it then!
>
> From Alison Hine's site:
>
> "But oh, those graphics! While the original version of ICR2 was
> state-of-the-art in late 1995 when it was released, its graphics have
> since been eclipsed by GP2, which has much better texture mapping and a
> variety of visual improvements which lend greater realism. When GP2 came
> out in the summer of 96, this realism was so appealing that I stopped
> playing ICR2 altogether."


And even with 6 months extra cpu evolution, at a time when cpu evolution
rate was VERY high, GP2 still ran like a pig. GP2 was good for testing
sessions and a glimpse of the future unless you liked being a slow mo league
king with the keyboard. Just junk really.


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Old September 13th 05, 02:38 PM
Sidney H Bridge
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Praxiteles Democritus wrote:
> On 12 Sep 2005 17:23:17 -0700, "jason moyer" > wrote:
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>>ICR2 was out in 1995. GP2 came out in 96, no?

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> http://www.gamestats.com/objects/003/003337/
> IndyCar Racing 2
>
> Release Date: 12/12/96


Wrong, sonny.
 




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