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who killed the electric car
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ps.com: > saw this movie "who killed the electric car" at sundance film fest. > > i have made it my mission to get the word out about this movie no > matter how deep in the grass roots I have to go! What's below the grass's roots? Bull****, that's what. That movie leaves out quite a lot, and badly distorts what it does include. Read more he http://www.gmtoday.com/news/auto/topnews33.htm Electric cars were -- and are -- a stupid, expensive, masturbatory, environut wet dream. -- TeGGeR® |
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who killed the electric car
it's funny because everyone i've ever met who drives an electric car
has sworn by them. also, the EV1s weren't expensive and they didn't let off any emissions, so.... i have no real idea what you could be talking about. i do understand the word "bull****" though. great word. especially to throw around when you have nothing solid to add. TeGGeR® wrote: > wrote in > ps.com: > > > saw this movie "who killed the electric car" at sundance film fest. > > > > i have made it my mission to get the word out about this movie no > > matter how deep in the grass roots I have to go! > > > > What's below the grass's roots? Bull****, that's what. > > That movie leaves out quite a lot, and badly distorts what it does include. > Read more he > http://www.gmtoday.com/news/auto/topnews33.htm > > Electric cars were -- and are -- a stupid, expensive, masturbatory, > environut wet dream. > > > -- > TeGGeR® |
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who killed the electric car
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> > it's funny because everyone i've ever met who drives an electric car > has sworn by them. > > also, the EV1s weren't expensive and they didn't let off any emissions, > so.... How do you know what they cost? None were ever sold to the public. Only leased. According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1) the program cost GM about $1 billion. With 1100 cars produced, that puts the unit cost at about $900,000 each. When the federal subsidy ran out, GM pulled the plug. -- Paul Hovnanian ------------------------------------------------------------------ If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. |
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who killed the electric car
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> it's funny because everyone i've ever met who drives an electric car > has sworn by them. > > also, the EV1s weren't expensive cite? All reports say that GM couldn't have sold a single EV1 at a profit as they would have cost something in the hundreds of thousands each range. > and they didn't let off any emissions, Sure they did, they just let them off at the power plant, not at the tailpipe. The only way you could say that it was a true ZEV is if it was solely powered by solar, water, wind, geothermal etc. power. nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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who killed the electric car
The Nate Nagel entity posted thusly:
wrote: >> it's funny because everyone i've ever met who drives an electric car >> has sworn by them. >> >> also, the EV1s weren't expensive > >cite? All reports say that GM couldn't have sold a single EV1 at a >profit as they would have cost something in the hundreds of thousands >each range. > >> and they didn't let off any emissions, > >Sure they did, they just let them off at the power plant, not at the >tailpipe. The only way you could say that it was a true ZEV is if it >was solely powered by solar, water, wind, geothermal etc. power. Saskatchewan just put a bunch more wind turbines online, for a total of 175 megawatts, apparently the largest wind turbine generation system in Canada. All we have to do it plug our electric vehicles into the grid through a filter that allows only wind-generated current through. Nothing to it. The original poster could probably build that filter in a few hours. |
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who killed the electric car
Oleg Lego wrote:
> > The Nate Nagel entity posted thusly: > [snip] > >Sure they did, they just let them off at the power plant, not at the > >tailpipe. The only way you could say that it was a true ZEV is if it > >was solely powered by solar, water, wind, geothermal etc. power. > > Saskatchewan just put a bunch more wind turbines online, for a total > of 175 megawatts, apparently the largest wind turbine generation > system in Canada. All we have to do it plug our electric vehicles into > the grid through a filter that allows only wind-generated current > through. Nothing to it. The original poster could probably build that > filter in a few hours. It appears that you have no concept of how electrical transmission and distribution systems work. There is no such 'filter' and no basis in physics for making one. There are means of purchasing power from preferred providers, if you happen to have a deregulated utility. But for every kWh of wind power you buy, that just results in other customers drawing power from coal or oil fired plants. -- Paul Hovnanian ------------------------------------------------------------------ All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand. |
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who killed the electric car
The Paul Hovnanian P.E. entity posted thusly:
>Oleg Lego wrote: >> >> The Nate Nagel entity posted thusly: >> >[snip] > >> >Sure they did, they just let them off at the power plant, not at the >> >tailpipe. The only way you could say that it was a true ZEV is if it >> >was solely powered by solar, water, wind, geothermal etc. power. >> >> Saskatchewan just put a bunch more wind turbines online, for a total >> of 175 megawatts, apparently the largest wind turbine generation >> system in Canada. All we have to do it plug our electric vehicles into >> the grid through a filter that allows only wind-generated current >> through. Nothing to it. The original poster could probably build that >> filter in a few hours. > >It appears that you have no concept of how electrical transmission and >distribution systems work. There is no such 'filter' and no basis in >physics for making one. > >There are means of purchasing power from preferred providers, if you >happen to have a deregulated utility. But for every kWh of wind power >you buy, that just results in other customers drawing power from coal or >oil fired plants. Leave your sense of humour at home today? Idiot. |
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who killed the electric car
> >cite? All reports say that GM couldn't have sold a single EV1 at a
> >profit as they would have cost something in the hundreds of thousands > >each range. yes - all GM reports, and when the GM reports were subject to investigation the reports turned out to be false. they were blatant fabrications. see the movie. just see it and we can continue with this conversation. the film really does cover every argument, every side. Oleg Lego wrote: > The Nate Nagel entity posted thusly: > > wrote: > >> it's funny because everyone i've ever met who drives an electric car > >> has sworn by them. > >> > >> also, the EV1s weren't expensive > > > >cite? All reports say that GM couldn't have sold a single EV1 at a > >profit as they would have cost something in the hundreds of thousands > >each range. > > > >> and they didn't let off any emissions, > > > >Sure they did, they just let them off at the power plant, not at the > >tailpipe. The only way you could say that it was a true ZEV is if it > >was solely powered by solar, water, wind, geothermal etc. power. > > Saskatchewan just put a bunch more wind turbines online, for a total > of 175 megawatts, apparently the largest wind turbine generation > system in Canada. All we have to do it plug our electric vehicles into > the grid through a filter that allows only wind-generated current > through. Nothing to it. The original poster could probably build that > filter in a few hours. |
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